The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

Its not an "assumption", u FOOL!

as·sump·tion
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noun
1.
a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.
"they made certain assumptions about the market"
synonyms: supposition, presumption, belief, expectation, conjecture, speculation, surmise, guess, premise, hypothesis; More

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firefly wrote:
Trayvon was profiled and stalked because he was black.
Well, yea; the burglaries in question
were seen to be perpetrated by blacks,
so thay were not going to be looking for Chinamen or Vikings.

Not to mention the little detail that when he was ask the race of Tayvon by the 911 operator
his reply was that he was not sure but he might be black!!!!!!!!!

But that fact does not fit in with Firefly and the other race baiter
theory so we will pretend it was not on the tape.

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firefly wrote:
And Zimmerman was the one who started that neighborhood watch,
with those rules. Why did he violate his own rules?
I dunno; it seems odd that he did not change the rules,
if he were the Founder and the boss; maybe just inattention.

Next I question if the no armed rule was in effect as when the current police chief try to get such a rule into place for the crime watch program that his department sponsor, he needed to back track and current crime watch people can by the rules of that crime watch carry weapons/firearms.

You,

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Its not an "assumption", u FOOL!

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as·sump·tion
əˈsəm(p)SHən/Submit
noun
1.
a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.
"they made certain assumptions about the market"
synonyms: supposition, presumption, belief, expectation, conjecture, speculation, surmise, guess, premise, hypothesis; More

I may be the fool, but you are stupid. You don't even know the definition of words you use. Are you sure you practiced as an attorney?

Also, how in the world did you ever pass the bar? ???????

"Victims’ Rights Advocate Blasts Conduct Of George Zimmerman’s Attorney, Fears For Girlfriend’s Safety (Updated)"
By Judd Legum
December 10, 2013

The leader of a prominent advocacy group for domestic violence victims sharply criticized the recent conduct of George Zimmerman’s attorney, Jayne Weintraub, and expressed concern for the safety of the alleged victim. Rita Smith, the Executive Director of the National Coalition To Prevent Domestic Violence suggested that Zimmerman’s girlfriend may have been “manipulated” into recanting her allegations against Zimmerman.

Weintraub recently submitted a motion requesting the terms of George Zimmerman’s bail be modified to allow contact with the alleged victim, his girlfriend Samantha Scheibe. On November 18, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with aggravated assault against Scheibe. At that time, she told the police that Zimmerman “cocked and pointed a shotgun at [her], shattered a glass-top table, then pushed her out of the house and barricaded himself inside.” She also told authorities that, in a separate incident a week and a half prior to the arrest, “he tried to choke her.” Weintraub’s motion asserts “it was the police, not Mr. Zimmerman, who intimidated her.”

Attached to Weintraub’s motion was a signed affidavit from Scheibe, recanting her story to the police and declaring that she wants to “be with George.” The Weintraub motion also revealed that she had been in communication with Scheibe regarding the matter.

Smith called Weintraub’s conduct in the matter “not appropriate.” She said that Weintraub’s involvement in submitting the affidavit to the court raised the prospect that Scheibe had been “manipulated” or “coerced” into recanting. Smith said that, if Scheibe approached Weintraub with a desire to recant her story, she should have referred her back to the State’s Attorney or to her personal attorney. It’s Weintraub’s role to prioritize the interests of Zimmerman, Smith said, so she is not a position to advise his alleged victim. Smith said that, as a victims rights advocate, she is concerned for Scheibe’s safety.

The affidavit submitted by Scheibe is written in the first person, but the frequent use of legal jargon suggests it was not written by her alone. For example Ms. Scheibe, who is not an attorney, writes “I make this decision, freely, knowingly and voluntarily, without any intimidation or undue influences. Neither George Zimmerman nor anyone on his behalf has threatened me or coerced me or subjected me to any undue influences.” (Her affidavit, however, does not state that she has not been in contact with Zimmerman, despite the no contact order that was the condition of her bail.)

Smith says that Scheibe’s decision to recant her story and stop cooperating with the prosecutors is not uncommon in domestic violence situations. Even without her cooperation, prosecutors could move forward with the case if they believe they have enough evidence to get a conviction. Evidence still available to them includes the original 911 call, Scheibe’s original statements to the police and any physical evidence collected from Scheibe’s home, where the incident occurred.

An email to Weintraub requesting comment was not immediately returned.

Update: Zimmerman will not face any charges. The state attorney said Wednesday that Sheibe’s affidavit, conflicting statements, and the lack of evidence or witnesses mean “there is no reasonable likelihood of successful prosecution.”
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/12/10/3043031/victims-rights-advocate-blasts-conduct-george-zimmermans-attorney-fears-girlfriends-safety/

I didn't see those statements, if, indeed, he made them.

I don't think such statements are his style. I wager he was goaded into making them.

Smith called Weintraub’s conduct in the matter “not appropriate.” She said that Weintraub’s involvement in submitting the affidavit to the court raised the prospect that Scheibe had been “manipulated” or “coerced” into recanting. Smith said that, if Scheibe approached Weintraub with a desire to recant her story, she should have referred her back to the State’s Attorney or to her personal attorney. It’s Weintraub’s role to prioritize the interests of Zimmerman, Smith said, so she is not a position to advise his alleged victim.

It almost seems like witness tampering.

The leader of a prominent advocacy group for domestic violence victims sharply criticized the recent conduct of George Zimmerman’s attorney, Jayne Weintraub, and expressed concern for the safety of the alleged victim. Rita Smith, the Executive Director of the National Coalition To Prevent Domestic Violence suggested that Zimmerman’s girlfriend may have been “manipulated” into recanting her allegations against Zimmerman.

once both parties decided that the state was the enemy, not each other, representing the interests of both was completely appropriate. as the state pointed out the other day GF was not a party to this legal action, it was Florida v Zimmerman.

Look, we both thought Zimmerman's lawyer had gotten Scheibe to drop the charges. I thought it was by convincing her that he would go for psychiatric treatment, and you thought that the lawyer's investigators might have dug up dirt about Scheibe she wouldn't want exposed--which would be like blackmailing her.

There's no way that Zimmerman's lawyer can equally represent the best interests of both parties in this kind of situation

why didn't he/she help her draw up her affidavit, requesting that the charges be dropped, and submit it separately on her behalf?

You and I both came to that conclusion before that victim advocate made her statement.

Zimmy was on his own time,
not working for the naborhood watch when he saw martin.

That means that he followed martin,
armed with the feeble 9mm automatic,
as an ordinary citizen, as distinct from a watchman.

ya, but you have GF as the probable victim, I have her as the probable user/abuser who made a stupid call to 911 and thus eventually got caught by George's lawyer.