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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 11:16 am
@firefly,
They all have a one-track mind; they're all bigots. They prove it over and over by their mindless explanations that isn't even from court or police records; it's all made up in their own dead-bigoted brains.

"Banging his head" is a common refrain that they dreamed up all by themselves - as if they were eye-witnesses to the events that took place.

There are no RECORD of such any place; their brains are damaged irreparably.

coldjoint
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 11:17 am
@cicerone imposter,
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They all have a one-track mind; they're all bigots.
Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 11:23 am
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Firefly said: @RF- All you're doing with the crap you're posting is proving this was a racially motivated killing, because you're emphasizing Martin's race as a factor in his death

If a white guy had been on top of Zim that'd have been bad enough, but because it was a black dood, poor Zim knew he was in a "me or him" situation-

"Janet Reno's Justice Department flatly states that "blacks are 8 times more likely than whites to commit homicide"
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2092547/pg1
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BillRM
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 11:36 am
@Frank Apisa,
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I was doing my job...part of my military obligation, but I am grateful that it included the stay in the UK.


Strange position for a pacifist that think a man have some duty to allowed himself to be beaten to death by a hoodlum to hold.
firefly
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 11:40 am
@cicerone imposter,
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"Banging his head" is a common refrain that they dreamed up all by themselves - as if they were eye-witnesses to the events that took place.

They are just mindlessly chanting what Zimmerman claims went on. And they never consider the obvious--that Zimmerman has considerable motive to lie, and we know, from what went on at his bail hearing, that Zimmerman has no compunctions about lying, even directly to the court. So, they are choosing to believe this known liar, even if the evidence doesn't support what he's saying.

There's no evidence of any "head-banging", let alone on concrete, and no physical evidence of any "beating" of any kind. Zimmerman was relatively uninjured in any way, beyond a single trauma to his nose that caused a nosebleed. Big deal--his nose required no treatment at all. That's playground type stuff--it doesn't require, or justify, shooting and killing someone as a response. And, from all the evidence, Zimmerman was on grass, not concrete.

That's one reason the police didn't believe Zimmerman, and they wanted to charge him the night of the shooting.
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The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News...

Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced by Zimmerman's version of events.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-investigator-wanted-charge-george-zimmerman-manslaughter/story?id=16011674


The police have a helluva lot more commonsense, and ability to spot liars, than these jerks do.

Had Zimmerman taken the stand at his trial, he would have been demolished on cross-examination. His account was shot through with contradictions, inconsistencies, and just plain implausibilities--it had more holes in it than his victim.
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 11:41 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

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Frank Apisa said: @RF- People like you and Bill who cannot empathize with the young man and his family should disgust yourselves...as well as most of the others of us out here.

When Martin jumped on Zimmy and started beating him to a pulp, he lost any right to sympathy..Wink
PS: As a --ahem-- PC wargaming champion, newcomers sometimes challenge me and inevitably get their asses busted, but I do have sympathy and say to them "I'm sorry but you were trying to kill me".
Maybe Zim said that to the kid, or at least thought it in his mind..


The clown act was funny in the beginning...but now it is getting stale.

Pat yourself on the back as much as you can...just do not hurt your arm doing it.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 11:43 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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I was doing my job...part of my military obligation, but I am grateful that it included the stay in the UK.


Strange position for a pacifist that think a man have some duty to allowed himself to be beaten to death by a hoodlum to hold.


If I decipher that mangled sentence correctly, you are apparently calling me a "pacifist."

I am not a pacifist.

You write as though you learned English from a ESL Arab teaching in Portuguese.
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BillRM
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 11:45 am
@Frank Apisa,
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The killing of Trayvon Martin was needless...a travesty, actually. And a tragedy


What would be far far more of a tragedy is that a good citizen would had been beaten to death by a hoodlum.

I love the type of thinking that blame the victim.

If the woman had not dress like she did she would not had been attacked or rape, if the man had not been stupid enough to openly wear a five thousand dollars watch when he was out walking his dog he would not have been attack.

Sorry Zimmerman did not do a damn thing that was illegal or unmoral and the only one other then maybe his parents that was responsible for Trayvon death was Trayvon
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 11:45 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

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"Banging his head" is a common refrain that they dreamed up all by themselves - as if they were eye-witnesses to the events that took place.

They are just mindlessly chanting what Zimmerman claims went on. And they never consider the obvious--that Zimmerman has considerable motive to lie, and we know, from what went on at his bail hearing, that Zimmerman has no compunctions about lying, even directly to the court. So, they are choosing to believe this known liar, even if the evidence doesn't support what he's saying.


Oh, stop picking on them, Firefly.

They are just trying to justify their racist sensibilities. Although they are doing a rather amateurish job of it...aren't they.
BillRM
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 11:52 am
@Frank Apisa,
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they are just trying to justify their racist sensibilities.


So we are all racist for defending a mixed race Latin that is about as white by DNA as Obama?

Who mother skin is so dark she could have been Trayvon mother instead of Zimmerman and who was refused the right to eat at white only lunch counters in the south before the civil right movement came along.

You are the racist here and a race baiter just like Sharpton.
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 11:59 am
@firefly,
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The police did not buy Zimmerman's story. The investigator recommended to the D,A. that Zimmerman be arrested and charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting. The D.A. passed on doing that


the lead investigator recommended arrest, the chief pointed out that they had no credible evidence on which to make an arrest so they were not going to do it, and then they turned the matter over to the DA who concurred.

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Special Prosecutor Angela Corey told the Herald she couldn't confirm whether police recommended a manslaughter charge.

"I don’t know about that, but as far as the process I can tell you that the police went to the state attorney with a capias request, meaning: ‘We’re through with our investigation and here it is for you.'

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Trayvon-Martin-Shooting-Sanford-Cops-Requested-Arrest-Warrant-144606055.html

it is one of your typical lies to say "the police wanted" when one cop wanted but the department did not want, after the process was run the organization decided that they did not want to arrest Zimmerman. The filling of the capias request does not argue against this because in real life they are not meant to convey the message that the police want a arrest, they convey the message "we decided to not arrest, but if you think otherwise let us know and we will do it".
firefly
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 12:04 pm
@BillRM,
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I love the type of thinking that blame the victim....

As you go on to blame the victim...
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Sorry Zimmerman did not do a damn thing that was illegal or unmoral and the only one other then maybe his parents that was responsible for Trayvon death was Trayvon

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc169/n1lilart/AnimatedDogwithHaHaHa.gif

The victim was the innocent kid who was profiled and stalked by an emotionally disturbed, and angry, wannabe cop.

The one who was responsible for Trayvon's death was the one who fired the bullet into him.

The jury never discounted the possibility that Martin had been acting in self-defense.

The police found Martin had done nothing, at all, of a criminal nature, to warrant being followed by Zimmerman. The chief police investigator on the case said he wouldn't have followed Martin under similar circumstances, he wouldn't have even regarded him as "suspicious".

This was a needless and avoidable death caused by George Zimmerman--he just got away with it. The victim was the one he killed.

Stop blaming the victim, you hypocrite.

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 12:08 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
They are just trying to justify their racist sensibilities.
Although they are doing a rather amateurish job of it...aren't they.
If a white were doing to me
what martin did to Zimmy, (head banging & MMA ground n pound)
I 'd shoot the white as fast as shoot any black.

U 'd really, really have to love the blacks a lot
to let them beat your head on the street.

I doubt that even Sharpton loves them that much.
Do u think he 's too amateurish, Frank ?





David
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 12:11 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
You continue to make the assumption about "head banging." That's not supported by anything - except your own imagination!

Zimmerman's injuries were MINOR. Not even a bandaide was required.

You'd lose in any court of law outside of Florida. THAT'S A FACT.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 12:11 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
they are just trying to justify their racist sensibilities.


So we are all racist for defending a mixed race Latin that is about as white by DNA as Obama?

Who mother skin is so dark she could have been Trayvon mother instead of Zimmerman and who was refused the right to eat at white only lunch counters in the south before the civil right movement came along.

You are the racist here and a race baiter just like Sharpton.


See what I mean, Firefly...they are trying to justify their racism.
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 12:13 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
They are just trying to justify their racist sensibilities.
Although they are doing a rather amateurish job of it...aren't they.
If a white were doing to me
what martin did to Zimmy, (head banging & MMA ground n pound)
I 'd shoot the white as fast as shoot any black.

U 'd really, really have to love the blacks a lot
to let them beat your head on the street.

I doubt that even Sharpton loves them that much.
Do u think he 's too amateurish, Frank ?

David


No, David, but I think the racists here in A2K are much too amateurish.

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 12:24 pm
@BillRM,
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The killing of Trayvon Martin was needless...a travesty, actually. And a tragedy
We in Florida are safer without him around.
That travesty made Florida a safer place to live.
He will not beat OUR heads on the street, thanks to the heroism of Zimmy.


BillRM wrote:
What would be far far more of a tragedy is that a good citizen
would had been beaten to death by a hoodlum.

I love the type of thinking that blame the victim.

If the woman had not dress like she did she would not had been attacked or rape, if the man had not been stupid enough to openly wear a five thousand dollars watch when he was out walking his dog he would not have been attack.

Sorry Zimmerman did not do a damn thing that was illegal or unmoral and the only one other then maybe his parents that was responsible for Trayvon death was Trayvon
Permit me to join in the obvious correctness of your comments, Bill.

He sees a burglary suspect ("if u see something, say something");
he calls the police; he follows the suspect so that he will not get away
and the police can inquire; suspect beats his head on the cement;
he shoots the felon that is apparently trying to kill him.

The rest of us are free of that danger, thanx be unto Zimmy.
I hope I 'll get a chance to shake his hand some day.





David
coldjoint
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 12:28 pm
Just curious Frank. How did you ever avoid the curse of being human and learn to pick the racist out of the crowd? Are you devoid of any racist thought?

Too bad they picked Frances, you would have been a star. Not that you would consider any high ranking religious leader of the Christian faith worthy of the non-racist label.

Get over the colors and look at the facts.

And fyi people can object to people in this country. With groups comes group speak. And if you do not agree with what they say it is based on facts not their color. And at the same time obey the law, and allow those people their legal rights, not exception to them. That is fair.
firefly
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 12:39 pm
@hawkeye10,
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it is one of your typical lies to say "the police wanted" when one cop wanted but the department did not want, after the process was run the organization decided that they did not want to arrest Zimmerman.


You're doing your usual act of making a bigger fool of yourself by trying to justify your previous incorrect assertions. You just dig yourself in deeper when you do that, and you never learn from it.

You're confusing what the Police Chief said, at a later time, to try to justify why an arrest wasn't made that night, with what I said. There was a tremendous amount of buck passing, including by that Police Chief, that went on after the controversy exploded with this case. That Police Chief lost his job, the D,A. was taken off the case. You can't understand it all with a quick Google, which is apparently what you're trying to do.

As usual, your thinking is muddled.

Meanwhile, what I said was accurate--the night of the shooting, the chief police investigator on this case did not believe Zimmerman's version of events, and he wanted him charged with manslaughter that night--he was speaking for the police department that night, when he recommended to the D.A. Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter, that's his job, to convey the department's conclusions to the D.A.. And he continued to find credibility problems with Zimmerman's account, even with subsequent interviews of Zimmerman, as his investigation reports, which you obviously never read, clearly indicated. His thinking actually provided the basis of the state's case against Zimmerman--he pointed out all the credibility problems with Zimmerman's account...
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Sanford police detective Chris Serino, unconvinced by Mr. Zimmerman’s story of self-defence, wanted to charge him with manslaughter but was overruled by the office of State Attorney Norm Wolfinger, the prosecutor whose district includes the city of Sanford, ABC News reported on Tuesday.
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/trayvon-martins-family-seeks-investigation-of-state-attorneys-actions/article2388763/?service=mobile

Quote:
The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News...

Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced by Zimmerman's version of events.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-investigator-wanted-charge-george-zimmerman-manslaughter/story?id=16011674


So, buddy, I haven't been lying, and you're still stuck with egg on your face.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-A2Satp_3FfU/TfbDb27BRgI/AAAAAAAAAU8/uRc_XX0WoOM/s320/egg-on-face2.jpg
firefly
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 12:56 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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See what I mean, Firefly...they are trying to justify their racism.

I certainly do see it, and what they are doing is rather transparent--as you say, it's "amateurish".

The humorous, really absurd, part is that they can't see it.

Although there certainly isn't anything funny about the kind of racism we're listening to them spout. It's quite sickening.

And, they are also giving credence to the possibility that there were definite racial aspects to this killing, ironically, as they try to deny that.
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