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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
hawkeye10
 
  2  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 11:48 am
@hawkeye10,
i dont have time to check but I think some time ago I noticed a report that the event that caused the arrest was the third break-up between these two in the very few months that they were a couple.....this seems to be a thing they do.

The lesson here I think is dont call in the state during relationship disputes unless you feel you have no other choice, as the state has no interest in the health of your union and it can not be trusted to act reasonably.
BillRM
 
  0  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 12:31 pm
@hawkeye10,
A lot of men and women are very unhappy about the results of calling in the police for such matters.

They tend to come in with jack boots and a simple google search will find women crying about courts orders that they did not desire causing a de-facto force divorces.

It go with the idea that women are children that needed protected from the state whether they wish for that protection or not.

In some cases, women are indeed children that need protection but that now seems to be assume for all women in their private relationships.

Getting the state involved in your life is a simple phone call away however getting them out again is a very hard road no matter what a couple might wish for.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Tue 10 Dec, 2013 12:50 pm
These stills from the police forensic video that was played to the jury had no soundtrack, but we can speculate what dialogue ocurred-

1- MARTIN- "Hey whitey I'm a-gonna bust your ass, know what ahm a-sayin?"

2- ZIM- "I don't want no trouble buddy"
MARTIN (lashing out)- "You sure as hell got trouble, mofo"

3- ZIM- "Ouch, easy pal, what did I ever do to you?"

4- MARTIN- "You messed with the wrong black boy mister!" (begins punching Zim)
ZIM- "Oh god please don't make me have to defend myself son, I voted for Obama and you look just like him...BANG!""

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/zim-animA_zps7fb30d1d.jpg~original
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BillRM
 
  0  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 01:05 pm
@hawkeye10,
Hawkeye with so many people laying for him to the point that getting one speeding ticket and a speeding warning are both front page news I strongly suggest that if he have any woman in his life, for the next few years at least, she is not a drama queen.

The last thing in the world he need is a drama queen shopping around personal stories or calling the cops to log complains when they have had a fight.
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 01:46 pm
@BillRM,
I can predict with 99% certainty that Shellie has an agent shopping a book proposal right now.
Advocate
 
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Tue 10 Dec, 2013 02:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
I saw her on the tube and found her superficially, at least, disgusting.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 02:45 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:

I saw her on the tube and found her superficially, at least, disgusting.


She sounds too good for Zimmerman.
farmerman
 
  2  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 02:46 pm
@Advocate,
American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) , since its sponsoring of these "Stand your ground proposals for Legislation" , has lost s significant amount of funding as industries leave them .
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BillRM
 
  0  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 03:00 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
She sounds too good for Zimmerman.


I agree Frank no woman should be with a man who would defend himself when attack we only wish to breed men that would died before acting in self defense.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 03:03 pm
@BillRM,

Self defense with a gun is not self-defense; it's murder. Self defense is when one is attacked physically, they punch the other guy out; killing is not necessary.

You have no sense of human life; idiotic.
firefly
 
  1  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 03:27 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
that is very murky...some reports have it that George announced the end..

Oh please, Zimmerman himself told the 911 dispatcher, in his own 911 call, that she wanted him to leave, and that he had agreed to leave.

And Zimmerman and Scheibe couldn't have "made up" since he's not supposed to have had any contact with her.

It was Zimmerman's attorney who submitted Scheibe's request to have the charges dropped as well as Zimmerman's request to have the no-contact order rescinded. Doesn't that suggest to you that this is something Zimmerman's attorney worked out, with Scheibe's help, to get the charges dropped before he's arraigned on Jan. 7th?

You're not paying attention to what either Zimmerman or Scheibe has been saying. The reason she contacted that reporter was to try to get Zimmerman psychiatric help, which he certainly sounds like he needs--even O'Mara said he hopes Zimmerman gets counseling.

Scheibe doesn't want Zimmerman in jail--she wants him to see a shrink, and if Zimmerman's attorney was able to convince her that he will see a shrink, that would make her suddenly withdraw the charge that he pointed a gun at her and to say she wants the charges dropped. She doesn't hate the man, she wants to get him help--and that's what she told that reporter for 3 weeks, documenting why she thinks he needs help.

You seem to be unable to accept that this woman actually feels compassion for Zimmerman, and that she's really tried to help him all along. But he's really been impossible for her to deal with--she claims he ODed once on pills, has put his gun in his mouth on another occassion, spends days at a time refusing to get out of bed, has blown up at her and has thrown her out of her own house, has tried to choke her, etc. and he's refused to go for help

And, even though he had agreed, finally, to get out of her house, he apparently blew up at her, over something, and that led to her 911 call and his arrest. That blow up may not have been over his leaving, something else may have ticked him off. And, in her 911 call, you can hear her telling him to just leave her house. But he didn't do that, he threw her out, of her house, and barricaded himself inside. That does suggest which of them was acting crazy, and why she wanted him out of her house.

I'm rather sure that Zimmerman's agreeing to go for psychiatric help may be the reason she's asking for the charges to be dropped. The question is, will he really go? Is his lawyer making arrangements for him to quietly go into a private psych hospital somewhere? We're never going to know. But, don't forget, his current lawyer didn't approve of his playing "wannabe cop" the night he killed Trayvon, and she's also aware that, since his acquittal his behavior has been alarming, and he's also been acting suicidal, so his lawyer must want to see him in psych treatment as well, and maybe she's been the one able to convince him that he's got to get himself some help. I hope so.

As for Shellie peddeling a book, I doubt it. I also doubt that many people would want to read such a book. People are tired of hearing about Zimmerman. He's a nobody whose only claim to noteriety is that he killed an unarmed kid and that provoked a controversial legal case. When all is said and done, he's still a nobody, and so are Shellie and Scheibe. Why would anyone want to read books about these people?

Romeo Fabulini
 
  2  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 03:35 pm
Zimmer-man, Zimmer-man,
friendly neighborhood Zimmer-man..Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub2/spidman1_zps5bac8abd.jpg~original

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Tue 10 Dec, 2013 04:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Self defense with a gun is not self-defense; it's murder.
Self defense is when one is attacked physically,
they punch the other guy out; killing is not necessary.

You have no sense of human life; idiotic.
Where do u GET this nonsense ???
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 04:15 pm
@firefly,
They all jump to conclusions - based on their own wishful thinking; nothing they say are based on the EVIDENCE or the FACTS of the cases.

They NEVER PRODUCE THE MEDIA OR POLICE REPORTS. NEVER.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 04:15 pm
@firefly,
They all jump to conclusions - based on their own wishful thinking; nothing they say are based on the EVIDENCE or the FACTS of the cases.

They NEVER PRODUCE THE MEDIA OR POLICE REPORTS. NEVER.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 04:16 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
It's only nonsense to idiots like you who have no value of human life.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 04:17 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
She sounds too good for Zimmerman.


I agree Frank no woman should be with a man who would defend himself
when attack we only wish to breed men that would died before acting in self defense.
Yeah, well put,
as if women shud only consort with cowards.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Tue 10 Dec, 2013 04:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
It's only nonsense to idiots like you who have no value of human life.
I take it that u are announcing
to the world that u are a COWARD, C. I., too afraid to defend yourself.

Is that correct ??????
BillRM
 
  0  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 04:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Self defense with a gun is not self-defense

??????????????????!!!!!!!!!?????????????????!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!

An when someone have you on the ground trying to pound your brain out using the sidewalk to do so that is reason to killed your attacker by any means available including guns, knifes or whatever in order to save your life.

As Zimmerman jury found.

A criminal attacker does not get to decide by what means you are allow to save your life from his attack depending on the mode of his attack.
BillRM
 
  0  
Tue 10 Dec, 2013 04:24 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
t's only nonsense to idiots like you who have no value of human life.


The problem here is for some strange reason you value the life of the criminal attacker over the life of his victim.

Trayvon was not showing any great concern about the welfare and life of Zimmerman as he pound his head on the sidewalk and try to interfere with his breathing.
 

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