The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@firefly,

this would be easier for him if you would quit with the damn facts...

always with the facts...

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@firefly,

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The whole thing is weird.

could it be love? I doubt it bit ya gotta wonder.

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@Rockhead,

What can one do when the Zimmerman apologists keep challenging the facts with their own made-up stories? Seems they were at every scene of every incident, because most of what they report is contrary to what the media has been reporting......so the media reports are all bogus~!

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@hawkeye10,

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could it be love?

Aren't you the one who said Scheibe has been going around with a bodyguard?

Either she's really afraid of this guy or she isn't--it's hard to tell. Given the things she told the reporter, she is afraid of him, and he's depressed and suicidal. If she hired a bodyguard she is afraid of him.

Maybe there's something about her she's afraid will come out if the case moves forward. Her suddenly saying she's not in fear of him, and wants to be with him really doesn't make sense. There has to be more to this.

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@firefly,

Your ability to remember all the details of this case is nothing but amazing; to show that "this woman" is conflicted in her own actions speak a lot more than Bill, hawk, David, or oralboy will ever be able to explain.

They still support this monster called Zimmerman. Can you beat that? They're all confused.

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@firefly,

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There has to be more to this.

love makes people crazy, this we know, so it is one of the possible answers. I dont think so, but maybe.

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@hawkeye10,

Zimmerman's new lawyer seems to be earning her money. I wonder if she convinced Scheibe to do her turnaround. The carrot could have been that he'll go see a shrink, and that's better for him than going through another legal case, and they should have contact so they can talk things over, etc. It was Zimmerman's lawyer who submitted Scheibe's affidavit.

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Zimmerman's Miami-based defense lawyer, Jayne Weintraub, said in a phone interview that her motion focuses on getting rid of the no-contact order between Zimmerman and Scheibe but that she wants the State Attorney's Office to reconsider the entire case in light of Scheibe's statement.

"I'm hoping that the prosecutors will take a good hard look at this and take the target off of George's back and drop the charges," Weintraub said.
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/national/2013/12/girlfriend_wants_charges_dropped_against_zimmerman

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@firefly,

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I wonder if she convinced Scheibe to do her turnaround

this chick knows her way around the state and the law, me bets that she called up some crack private investigators and got the dirt on GF, and then blackmailed her.

Come on Firefly, you are a liar but a smart one, you know this is the most likely reason we saw what we did today.

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@cicerone imposter,

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They still support this monster called Zimmerman. Can you beat that? They're all confused

Yes he is surely a monster as when attacked he will dare to defend himself.

Lord I am laughing over this whole silliness but I am sure he did not needed the delay in moving to Texas.

But given how many people wish him harm if I was him I would consider going to Russian and asking for political asylum along with Snowdon.

LOL one more time.

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@BillRM,

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Lord I am laughing over this whole silliness but I am sure he did not needed the delay in moving to Texas.

i dont like texas but I do know enough about Texans to know that they will not take kindly to George if he is a idiot hot head. He best not go there unless he is a good guy who has all of this rep as a result of abuse at the hands of the state.

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@firefly,

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Either she's really afraid of this guy or she isn't--it's hard to tell. Given the things she told the reporter, she is afraid of him, and he's depressed and suicidal. If she hired a bodyguard she is afraid of him.

Human emotions are sometime quite difficult to understand. It's possible Scheibe has residual feelings for this man while simultaneously afraid of him. After the public blowup with Zimmerman's arrest, she and he had time to reflect with his possibly getting in touch with her via the phone and promising faithfully he would never attack her again...that he loved her desperately! The fragile Scheibe, feeling lonely, and still needing him, relented and took him back. However, of her own volition she admitted that the previous week before their split he had choked her.

...And yet, she really should be wary of George Zimmerman because a leopard can't change his spots.

Scheibe is not a unique case when it comes to heated passion in relationships. There are myriad relationships where fights occur, the husband or boyfriend leaves and given a few days to simmer down, the two gravitate back together. Zimmerman received much media attention because of his murder of Trayvon Martin; if Z had not murdered Martin, his fight with Scheibe would not even be a blip on the radar.

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@BillRM,

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But given how many people wish him harm ....

How can that be? Many people wish him harm? Who are they? Isn't he the outstanding citizen of the south? After all, isn't he the Neighborhood Watch captain?

With all that media crap about his arrests and bail, all those police and da's are chasing the wrong guy! I tell ya....there's no end to the police and media all being all wrong!

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@hawkeye10,

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will not take kindly to George if he is a idiot hot head.

Hawkeye so far I had not seen any indication that he is anything but someone you would love to have as a neighbor or have him drive by if you are having car trouble for that matter on the highway.

As far as being a hot head take note he got her out of the home and locked up the guns and then called 911 himself to get a statement of his own on record then he refused to made any other statements to the cops.

Seems all very smart moves in dealing with an out of control woman that was threatening to get even with him for leaving her.

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@hawkeye10,

That's one possibility--that she dug up the dirt on her.

The other is just that she played on Scheibe's sympathy, and I do believe Scheibe wants Zimmerman to get psychiatric help. Zimmerman's lawyer may have gotten him to agree to go for help--I'm sure she agrees he needs it. And all along what motivated Scheibe to get involved with him, and to stay with him, and to keep forgiving him, for all the crap she was putting up with, was that she felt sorry for him. This was no great romance.

So the lawyer may have played on Scheibe's desire to help him, convinced her he would see a shrink, and leave town, but that if she went through with this case, she'd destroy him and finish him off.

But Scheibe, like Shellie, may have gotten herself into legal difficulty for him, if she's now, in effect, saying her police report was false. Her cover is saying the police intimated her, but that won't work. Her other choice is to tell the truth. I don't think her police statement was false. But, she can just say she wants the charges dropped because she overreacted to what he did. I'm sure Zimmerman's lawyer can handle it for her. Wink

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@Moment-in-Time,

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with his possibly getting in touch with her via the phone and promising faithfully he would never attack her again.

Nice idea but he is not dumb enough to break a no contact order and get his bail revoke.

It is not Zimmerman that wish to keep the relationship going and hopefully Zimmerman will not be dumb enough to allow her anywhere near him in the future.

As far as Firefly claims she is in fear of him the blow up happen when he was getting his things together to leave something that should delight a woman that was in fear of him.

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@cicerone imposter,

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media all being all wrong!

Sorry it is not the media being wrong so must as the media having one hell of a track record of outright lying and changing facts to made him look guilty.

An look the headlines for him going slightly over the speed limit or the headline my god he have 5 guns and a hundred rounds of amo that is a stockpile hell it is an arsenal of weapons.............

Turning to my wife dear do you know we have an arsenal of firearms?

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@Moment-in-Time,

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After the public blowup with Zimmerman's arrest, she and he had time to reflect with his possibly getting in touch with her via the phone and promising faithfully he would never attack her again...that he loved her desperately!

He was ordered to have no contact with her of any kind. That includes by phone.

This is not a great passionate love affair. Not from what she told that reporter. It was mainly compassion and affection for someone she's known from high school who was going through a very severe depression, and they got sexually involved. I don't see much beyond that. And being involved with him was more than she could deal with because he really is in emotional turmoil and he was either threatening to kill himself or blowing up at her. I honestly think she wanted him out. She didn't blow up because he was leaving.

I think what she said in her 911 call was probably the truth--he probably did point the gun at her. He probably had tried to choke her the week before. He had thrown her out of her own house before. But I think she's feeling sorry for him and she doesn't want to be the one to finish him off.

I don't think they will get back together. I think if Zimmerman's lawyer can get the charges dropped, he'll likely leave the state. He shouldn't be around his estranged wife, and he shouldn't be around Scheibe. He's too impulsive and volatile. And he shouldn't be around that gun factory he keeps visiting. He's got to go somewhere else, and this time really keep a low profile, and, hopefully get himself psychiatric treatment.

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@firefly,

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So the lawyer may have played on Scheibe's desire to help him, convinced her he would see a shrink, and leave town, but that if she went through with this case, she'd destroy him and finish him off.

that theory assumes that GF opened herself up to liability criminally after much consideration and out of charity. the alt ideas that she is trying to shed liability by keeping team Zimmerman from blabbing or that the liability happened when she lied in the heat of passion as George tried to leave are much much more likely.

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@BillRM,

If you have the same aggressive, brainless, uncontrollable attacks on other people, than what you own is an arsenal.

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@hawkeye10,

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that theory assumes that GF opened herself up to liability criminally after much consideration and out of charity

His wife opened herself to a perjury rap for him, and the marriage was pretty much over when she did that--she still stood by him, and lied for him, because that's what she felt she had to do. She went back with him only because he had killed Martin, and he told her he needed her. He needed her immediately--to bring him a change of clothes while he was still in the police station. She had walked out on him the day before.

I really don't think the girlfriend lied to the police. I think she may be lying now, and I think Zimmerman's lawyer will find an out for her.

I don't think these are vindictive women, and they both wanted George out of their lives--neither was being dumped. If anything both seem too compassionate and too forgiving of him. He's an adroit manipulator.

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