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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 08:53 am
@Frank Apisa,
Most of the time when the word stalking is used,
it reaches a point when pouncing occurs (e.g., a lion chasing prey).
Zimmy just wanted to help the police find the "punk" (from 911 tape)
because "thay always get away". He was a good friend to his nabors,
to whose plight he was sympathetic.





David
BillRM
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 08:57 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Obviously, Sharpton and Jesse Jackson 'd not have cared,
if decedent had been a white. Wud u be equally as motivated if martin were a white, Frank ?


Do you need to even ask him that question David?

No charge would had likely been file without the pressure of Sharpton and Jackson driven by the crazy picture of Zimmerman being a gun nut racial white man gunning down for no reason a young innocent child on his way back from the 7/11.

This case was driven by black racism stirred up by the race baiters such as Sharpton and Jackson for their own benefits. The same actions they had taken many times in the past such as the Duke players so call raping of a poor black dancer at a party.

Frank is a racist, in my opinion, as there is no question in my mind that if the skin color of the two parties had been reverse an charges would had been level against a black Zimmerman for the act of self defense against a white hoodlum, Frank would had been yelling very loudly in support of Zimmerman not Trayvon.

Of course if that had been the case he would have been on the right side of the issue.
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BillRM
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:03 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
He apparently was following a person that he was hunting


So following someone for a few minutes for the purpose of guiding the police to them in hunting him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An as he was doing a legal action there is no reason to think that he was trying to be silent about it and Trayvon from the first seems to had been more the aware of Zimmerman following him.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:31 am
Quote:
Frank Apisa said: There is no way you can reasonable suggest that Martin brought it on himself

Apart from sitting on a white man and beating his head to a pulp..Smile
parados
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:35 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
The problem with that video is that after Zimmerman is attacked and has a clear path back toward his car he somehow goes around Martin and travels 30 feet or more down a sidewalk that takes him farther from where he knows the police will show up.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:40 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Most of the time when the word stalking is used,
it reaches a point when pouncing occurs (e.g., a lion chasing prey).
Zimmy just wanted to help the police find the "punk" (from 911 tape)
because "thay always get away". He was a good friend to his nabors,
to whose plight he was sympathetic.





David


You do not know that "pouncing" did not occur. Or that a push happened...or that some other form of physical intimidation by Zimmerman did not occur.

But we do know that Zimmerman stalked Martin...and that he shot him to death.
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BillRM
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:41 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
There is no way you can reasonable suggest that Martin brought it on himself...and to suggest that it is 100% certain is an absurdity. The best thing to do is to laugh at your response.


Of course he brought the outcome on himself as he could had one just kept walking home or two just had said hello how are you doing or some such to Zimmerman.

His actions of launching an all out attack on Zimmerman was his undoing. Hell if he had just settle for knocking Zimmerman down and then walking away he would had been alive now.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:43 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
He apparently was following a person that he was hunting


So following someone for a few minutes for the purpose of guiding the police to them in hunting him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes.

Quote:
An as he was doing a legal action there is no reason to think that he was trying to be silent about it and Trayvon from the first seems to had been more the aware of Zimmerman following him.


If you are stalking someone...you try to be silent. And if you are suggesting that Martin was more aware of Zimmerman following Marin...than that Zimmerman was aware that Zimmerman was following Martin...you really do have a problem.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:44 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Frank Apisa said: There is no way you can reasonable suggest that Martin brought it on himself

Apart from sitting on a white man and beating his head to a pulp..Smile


We do not know that happened. We do know that Zimmerman stalked Martin...and that Zimmerman shot Martin to death.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:45 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
There is no way you can reasonable suggest that Martin brought it on himself...and to suggest that it is 100% certain is an absurdity. The best thing to do is to laugh at your response.


Of course he brought the outcome on himself as he could had one just kept walking home or two just had said hello how are you doing or some such to Zimmerman.

His actions of launching an all out attack on Zimmerman was his undoing. Hell if he had just settle for knocking Zimmerman down and then walking away he would had been alive now.


Whew! It is embarrassing to listen to you guys.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:46 am
Quote:
Frank Apisa said: We do not know that happened. We do know that Zimmerman stalked Martin...and that Zimmerman shot Martin to death.

Only after the kid started smashing his head in..Smile
BillRM
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:53 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
If you are stalking someone...you try to be silent.


An once more Zimmerman was not stalking anyone under either the legal meaning or the common dictionary meaning of the word stalking.

There would be no reason for Zimmerman to hide the fact that he was following Trayvon in order to get the police to the scene.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 10:19 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Frank Apisa said: We do not know that happened. We do know that Zimmerman stalked Martin...and that Zimmerman shot Martin to death.

Only after the kid started smashing his head in..Smile


You do not know that...and I do not know that.

Wink Wink Wink
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 10:20 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
If you are stalking someone...you try to be silent.


An once more Zimmerman was not stalking anyone under either the legal meaning or the common dictionary meaning of the word stalking.

There would be no reason for Zimmerman to hide the fact that he was following Trayvon in order to get the police to the scene.


Like I said, Bill...if this is where you are...you need professional help.

People who need that kind of help should not be allowed to own guns.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 10:35 am
Quote:
Romeo said: George shot him after the kid started smashing his head in.
Frank Apisa said: you do not know that..and i do not know that.

So what was that on Zim's nose and head, strawberry jam?..Smile
BillRM
 
  0  
Sun 8 Dec, 2013 10:37 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
People who need that kind of help should not be allowed to own guns.


I am sure you hate the fact that law abiding citizens can carry firearms both blacks and whites and are wherefore able to protected ourselves from predators such as Trayvon.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 10:56 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Romeo said: George shot him after the kid started smashing his head in.
Frank Apisa said: you do not know that..and i do not know that.

So what was that on Zim's nose and head, strawberry jam?..Smile


No.

But it might have been the result of trying to repel a physical attack by Zimmerman. The "kid" may never have tried to smash Zimmerman's head in...he may simply have been trying to stand his ground.

We really do not know...do we?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 10:57 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
People who need that kind of help should not be allowed to own guns.


I am sure you hate the fact that law abiding citizens can carry firearms both blacks and whites and are wherefore able to protected ourselves from predators such as Trayvon.



The sickness that makes you suppose Trayvon was a predator is the same sickness I think should disqualify you from owning a gun.

Get help, Bill.
BillRM
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 12:08 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
The sickness that makes you suppose Trayvon was a predator


Seems you are the sick one taking the side of a hoodlum just because he happen to have darker skin then his victim.

As I said before if the color tones of the two skins had been reverse I am sure you would be yelling about Zimmerman being charge for defending himself and we would both be on the same side of the issue.

Here below is why he was a predator instead of the victim who was trying to summoned the police to the scene.

An not a damn mark on Trayvon but for the one gun shot wound.

PS I would assume y0u would not wish any of the Zimmerman jury members to be armed for the same reason you are challenging my rights to be armed.

In not buying into the theory that in someway or manner Zimmerman could had assualted Trayvon without leaving a mark on his body.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1-qLXuplnEzkZo2ZMgLDFgMNeFApR5uHYivwW2QI4P8046emJ

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPDszrsg_kpj4i2orcoZ9iiaun7ujKxZr5DHIs_7_tpdjed_b3hA
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firefly
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 12:34 pm
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Trayvon Martin Juror:
George Zimmerman Belongs in Prison
11/19/2013

How's this for irony ... George Zimmerman belongs in prison ... this, coming from one of the jurors in the Trayvon Martin case who kept him OUT of prison.

Juror B29 -- who identifies herself as Maddy -- tells TMZ, she always had a bad feeling about Zimmerman, despite finding him not guilty of murdering Trayvon ... a verdict she begrudgingly reached through a strict interpretation of the law.

Now, she says Zimmerman's domestic violence arrest is proof he's not freedom-worthy ... "God is showing George's true side ... [George] is continuing to dig himself a bigger grave."

The juror believes Zimmerman will continue to commit violent acts until someone lays down the law ... telling us, "He NEEDS to do some type of time ... He thinks he is invincible."


http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/19/trayvon-martin-juror-george-zimmerman-prison-domestic-violence-arrest/#ixzz2muLVqUUG


Quote:
George Zimmerman Juror Says 'In Our Hearts, We Felt He Was Guilty'
July 25, 2013

The only minority on the all-female jury that voted to acquit George Zimmerman said today that Zimmerman "got away with murder" for killing Trayvon Martin and feels she owes an apology Martin's parents...

Maddy said she has sympathy for Martin's parents and believes she, too, would continue the crusade for justice if this had happened to her son.

She said she believes she owes Trayvon Martin's parents an apology because she feels "like I let them down."


http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-juror-murder/story?id=19770659&singlePage=true
 

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