The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@Frank Apisa,

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Whew! It is embarrassing to listen to you guys.

Finally! You are beginning to see the light. But you do have a boat load of patience.

@Bentinie,

Sorry it is not patience it is the strong desire to sell the fantasy that Trayvon due to his skin color was the victim and the real victim was the criminal instead.

He does have a lot of help in the news media and of course the race baiters such as Sharpton and Jackson.

You know the same groups that try to sell the idea that three white duke students raped a hard working black dancer/college student. Mainly because they was unhappy that they was send a black dancer instead of a white dancer.

Zero facts to back up that any kind of sex happen yet alone rape at the party but still the cried for white blood went out all over the land.

At least the three Duke student was indeed white instead of being of mixed blood such as Zimmerman and that include black blood in his vein.

Racism is no more pretty when it is black racism then when it is white racism.

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@firefly,

It is a long standing principle of law
that: "a juror will not be heard to impeach his own verdict."

David

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@firefly,

Nobody can blame juror #B29 based on the sorry job the prosecution did on this case. Most of us would have arrived at the same conclusion. Pretty sad all around when the bigots on this thread continue their refrain that Zimmerman was found not guilty. So was OJ Simpson.

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@BillRM,

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Sorry it is not patience it is the strong desire to sell the fantasy that Trayvon due to his skin color was the victim and the real victim was the criminal instead.

When did Frank ever try to sell that fantasy?

You're the one who's been trying to sell fantasies about both Martin and Zimmerman that ignore the reality of both of them.

We know Zimmerman killed Martin.

We know that would not have happened had Zimmerman abided by neighborhood watch rules, and the advisement of the police dispatcher, and just remained in his car--and that was the conclusion of the police investigation.

That makes Martin the victim of Zimmerman's terrible judgment and lack of self-control--his needless death was caused by George Zimmerman.

And even one of the jurors who acquitted him feels, "George Zimmerman got away with murder."

You're the one who's living in fantasy land.

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Racism is no more pretty when it is black racism then when it is white racism.

If you're so concerned about racism, try telling Romeo why it's offensive, and racist, to call people, "Nigger lovers," which he did in one of his recent posts.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Nobody can blame juror #B29 based on the sorry job the prosecution did on this case. Most of us would have arrived at the same conclusion.

Pretty sad all around when the bigots on this thread continue their refrain
that Zimmerman was found not guilty. So was OJ Simpson.

That is nonsense.
I 'd have said the same thing if martin were a white.

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@OmSigDAVID,

No, you wouldn't; it's obvious from your bias for guns and Zimmerman. If the event were reversed, you'd blame Trayvon for killing Zimmerman.

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Frank Apisa said: The "kid" may never have tried to smash Zimmerman's head in...he may simply have been trying to stand his ground.

You philosophers are having a field day with this, dancing around the facts as if you're at a Whitsun Morris dance.. Smile

If the kid never beat him up, who did, Ming the Merciless?.. Smile

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@OmSigDAVID,

David this bullshit about a juror who saw the light an stated that she consider Zimmerman got away with murder is just another example of the news Media playing games with this case and the facts of this case.

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From the book "if I have a son"

ABC News gets the credit again for its continued commitment to misleading America. In this case, its producers recruited the one woman of color on George Zimmerman’s “all-white” jury and twisted her words to incite the public. In an “exclusive” interview, Good Morning America’s Robin Roberts said to juror B29, “Some people have said, point-blank, ‘George Zimmerman got away with murder.’ How do you respond to those people who say that?” In the edited video ABC floated to get the media’s attention, “Maddy” answered unhesitatingly, “George Zimmerman got away with murder. But you can’t get away from God.”3
Given the bait, the media bit big-time and generated their own misleading headlines. In the accompanying Times article by Lisette Alvarez—the reporter who gave the world “White Hispanic”—there was not even a mention of the prompt by Roberts. In fact, though, Roberts not only prompted Maddy, but she also set her up for a seriously deceptive edit. In the unedited version, after Roberts asked her the leading question, Maddy paused, started her response over, and clearly played back the gist of Roberts’s question—“George Zimmerman got away with murder”—as the stated premise to her own answer, “But you can’t get away from God.” In other words, that was how she would answer that question if asked. She never volunteered that Zimmerman got away with murder, nor did she openly agree with the premise. In fact, she stood by her decision to acquit Zimmerman and said the case should not have gone to trial.

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Quote: Juror Maddy said she believes she owes Trayvon Martin's parents an apology because she feels "like I let them down."

Huh, she must be a man-hating feminist ratbag who's now regretting missing her chance to put the knife in.. Smile

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@OmSigDAVID,

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That is nonsense.
I 'd have said the same thing if martin were a white

Yes indeed the racists over this matter from the President both I and Zimmerman voter on down seems to be supporting Trayvon due only to his skin color being darker then his victim Zimmerman.

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@BillRM,

You've obviously been reading my posts, the ones you keep saying you're ignoring. Laughing

You're such a liar.

Now you're trying to twist and distort what the juror said and what she meant. And she made her feelings about Zimmerman quite clear in her more recent remarks, since Zimmerman was arrested again.

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Trayvon Martin Juror:
George Zimmerman Belongs in Prison
11/19/2013

How's this for irony ... George Zimmerman belongs in prison ... this, coming from one of the jurors in the Trayvon Martin case who kept him OUT of prison.

Juror B29 -- who identifies herself as Maddy -- tells TMZ, she always had a bad feeling about Zimmerman, despite finding him not guilty of murdering Trayvon ... a verdict she begrudgingly reached through a strict interpretation of the law.

Now, she says Zimmerman's domestic violence arrest is proof he's not freedom-worthy ... "God is showing George's true side ... [George] is continuing to dig himself a bigger grave."

The juror believes Zimmerman will continue to commit violent acts until someone lays down the law ... telling us, "He NEEDS to do some type of time ... He thinks he is invincible."

http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/19/trayvon-martin-juror-george-zimmerman-prison-domestic-violence-arrest/#ixzz2muLVqUUG

Her feelings about Zimmerman are unmistakably clear--even to a dolt like you.

Zimmerman is O.J. all over again. And O.J. managed to finally get himself convicted of a subsequent crime after his acquittal. Zimmerman will too--if he doesn't wind up dead first.

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I think Mandela's death must have upset the lefties which is why they're ranting against George Zimmerman.
Speaking of that lying commie terrorist Mandela, good riddance.. Smile

WIKI- "Mandela himself denied ever being a Communist Party member, but after his death, the Communist Party and the ANC confirmed that he was a Communist Party member when he was arrested in 1962.
He said he would resort to "guerilla warfare and terrorism".
In Ethiopia, he began a six-month course in guerrilla warfare.
Botha offered him a release from prison on condition that he '"unconditionally rejected violence as a political weapon".
Mandela spurned the offer"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Interesting how you're able to take a small part of the total article that is 99% positive towards Mandela into a few sentences that has no bearing on what he actually did.

Saying one thing, and training in another is not the mark of any man; it's what he does with his life that counts.

I'm sure your character is as clean as newly fallen snow.

Most people's aren't. THAT'S A FACT OF LIFE.

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@BillRM,

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Yes indeed the racists over this matter from the President both I and Zimmerman voter on down seems to be supporting Trayvon due only to his skin color being darker then his victim Zimmerman.

Is that sentence supposed to make sense? Laughing

It's a good example of the lack of logic and clarity in your thinking.

And the reason Zimmerman took note of Martin in the first place was because he was black. And the defense acknowledged that by pointing out that some burglaries in that complex had been committed by blacks--in an attempt to justify Zimmerman's racial profiling.'

Nothing changes the fact that Martin would not have been killed if Zimmerman had just remained in his car and not stalked him. And part of the reason that Martin became Zimmerman's "suspect", and was stalked by him, was because of the color of his skin.

And you're the one who has provided statistics about black crime to further justify Zimmerman's racial profiling.

So stop pretending that race had nothing to do with Martin's death. Your own posts contradict that, you hypocrite.

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@firefly,

He's not only a hypocrite, but he lies to himself. That's proven by the contradictions inherent in his own posts - that he's blind to.

He'll continue to advocate for Zimmerman until hell freezes over; even after Zimmerman is charged with more crimes for his aggression.

TNCFS

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@cicerone imposter,

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He'll continue to advocate for Zimmerman until hell freezes over; even after Zimmerman is charged with more crimes for his aggression.

So any claim of misdeeds level against a man when he is breaking up with a partner should be taken at face value?

No court rulings needed or convictions needed as men are guilty without any of that nonsense needed!!!!!!

This thread is full of PC correct racism and sexism it would seems.

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@BillRM,

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So any claim of misdeeds level against a man when he is breaking up with a partner should be taken at face value?

No court rulings needed or convictions needs as men are guilty without any of that nonsense needed!!!!!!

Duh...it's 3 different women who have made such allegations against Zimmerman.

The first one obtained a restraining order against him. That's a court ruling.

In the second case, where he was threatening others by making gestures that he might pull out a gun, Zimmerman also assaulted her father, his father-in-law. And, after that incident, the Police Chief, who sent 8 police units to the scene of the domestic dispute, called Zimmerman a "ticking time bomb" and "Another Aurora or Sandy Hook waiting to happen."

And, in the most recent case, the police found her locked out of her home, with Zimmerman barricaded inside, refusing to even allow them entry.

And the police believed her, not him, and they had no hesitancy about arresting him. And a judge found probable cause--evidence--to support the charges against him.

You seem to be the only one who can't see the aggressive pattern in Zimmerman's behavior.

No one is taking anything "at face value"--Zimmerman's patterns, and his own behaviors, are saying it all.

Do you think Zimmerman represents all men? First you make him a victim of racism, and now you're trying to make him a victim of sexism.

Zimmerman is a victim of his own behaviors. He's the only one responsible for the way he acts.

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@firefly,

Those FACTS only gets in the way of their non-reality life. Sad; they can't even accept those facts that have more than a couple complaints against Zimmerman - with police records.

They all live in la-la land.

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@cicerone imposter,

A man should never be ashamed to say he has been wrong, which is but saying in other words that he is wiser today than he was yesterday.

Alexander Pope

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