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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
BillRM
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 05:35 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Facts does no matter they are living in a fantasy land.


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cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 05:36 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Defense lawyer O'Mara went before the judge and claimed that the young Trayvon Martin was into streeting fighting. That he had videotaped his friends beating up two homeless men. O'Mara then took to Fox, that bastion of journalistic integrity, and repeated this charge. Turned out that he lied. Blatantly and repeatedly.
Trayvon, doing what teenagers do nowadays, videotaped two homeless men fighting over a bicycle but this how O'Mara represented it:

“Presumably; however, you’ll keep your mind open when we present the videos of him at these fights, not just as a spectator, but refereeing one and taping one where two buddies of his were beating up a homeless guy,” O’Mara said to Judge Debra Nelson.

O'Mara has now issued some lame-assed apology claiming that he "mischaracterized" the video. Mischaracterized my ass! He did exactly what he intended to do.
This from the family's lawyers:

"George Zimmerman's defense team's so called apology yesterday for manipulating and mischaracterizing information about Trayvon Martin would be laughable in any other context, if this case wasn't about the murder of an unarmed teenager. Let's not forget the defense team has spent weeks now engaged in a despicable campaign to assassinate the character of a dead teenager in an attempt to influence a potential jury pool. Thankfully, the judge in this case has sided with the laws of evidence in saying that such information is irrelevant to the case, reminding us all that Trayvon is not on trial, but George Zimmerman is for second degree murder."


We all know that David, oralboy, hawk, and Bill bought into these lies.
BillRM
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 05:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Zimmerman had not cause to follow/stalk Martin; he was just walking home from the store.


So once more the punishment for trying to get the police to check out a black teenager should be death and no one even a person with black blood himself have the right of self defense if attacked by such a black teenager.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 05:39 pm
@BillRM,
You keep saying Trayvon attacked Zimmerman; where's your proof? Why didn't Zimmerman first attack Trayvon?
BillRM
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 05:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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You keep saying Trayvon attacked Zimmerman; where's your proof? Why didn't Zimmerman first attack Trayvon?


The proof is there in the pictures of Zimmerman wounds and not a mark other then the bullet on Trayvon body that completely support Zimmerman versions of events.

It was not combat any more then the Pearl Harbor attacked was combat it was a one sided surprise attack.
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firefly
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 05:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
And they cling to those lies, C.I.

And that's why they can't deal with the fact of Zimmerman's continuing aggressive behaviors and the fact he's been arrested again for aggressive behaviors.

This continuing discussion about Trayvon Martin is nuts. The continuing re-hash of the trial is nuts.

It's all because they can't look at Zimmerman and his aggressive patterns.

They can't deal with the fact Zimmerman has been arrested AGAIN.
Moment-in-Time
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 06:15 pm
@firefly,
Quote:


And that's why they can't deal with the fact of Zimmerman's continuing aggressive behaviors and the fact he's been arrested again for aggressive behaviors.

This continuing discussion about Trayvon Martin is nuts. The continuing re-hash of the trial is nuts.

It's all because they can't look at Zimmerman and his aggressive patterns.

They can't deal with the fact Zimmerman has been arrested AGAIN.


The other night I watched a rather rotund Representative from Texas with a huge gap in his front teeth say he did not know whether or not Barack Obama was born in American. The revulsion this overstuffed turkey wrought in me made made me feel like vomiting. This fat slob knew Obama was an American because if he were not he never would have gotten past the Hillary Clinton machinery.

The same type of transparent denial we see in that Texas Congressman exist among the Zimmerman supporters. Take the black murdered youth out of it and pretend Trayvon was a white youth. You might see a different answer emerging from these pro-Zimmerman posters. Hatred for another race will cause one to pretend to feign blindness because they don't want it known they are wrong...they will never admit it's race that blinds them to your most eloquent posts.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 06:16 pm
@firefly,
When people repeat lies often enough, they begin to believe in those lies.

The pattern is clear. They're duped!
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BillRM
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 07:02 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
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And that's why they can't deal with the fact of Zimmerman's continuing aggressive behaviors and the fact he's been arrested again for aggressive behaviors.


You make a victim by the state of an already crime victim of a hoodlum and you are surprise that you are able to ruin his relationships.
hawkeye10
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 07:14 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
And that's why they can't deal with the fact of Zimmerman's continuing aggressive behaviors and the fact he's been arrested again for aggressive behaviors.


You make a victim by the state of an already crime victim of a hoodlum and you are surprise that you are able to ruin his relationships.

i am not convinced that this arrest will ruin his spotless conviction record. do we not believe in innocent till proven guilty anymore?
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 07:16 pm
@hawkeye10,
Do you know what a straw is, hawk? Mr. Green

Quote:
George Zimmerman Charged With Assault After Fight With Girlfriend
hawkeye10
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 07:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Do you know what a straw is, hawk? Mr. Green

Quote:
George Zimmerman Charged With Assault After Fight With Girlfriend

now we see if the state can get so much as a misdemeanor conviction for a change.
BillRM
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 08:14 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
now we see if the state can get so much as a misdemeanor conviction for a change.


The chance of that is hardly high given it a she said he said deal where she was out shopping around a story and he was just trying to leave.

My bet is that the charges will be dropped at the next hearing.
hawkeye10
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 08:30 pm
@BillRM,
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My bet is that the charges will be dropped at the next hearing.
I noted before that GF felt the need to deny that she set George up by lying but I also note that it seems that none of her friends seem to be publicly defending her honor. My gut instinct is that mom and daughter cooked up a get rich on George quick scheme which collapsed when George decided to vacate to Texas before the deal was found, and that they got revenge. GF running around town with an armed guard protecting her after claiming to fear that George was going to come after her was one allegation too many for me to believe anything she says.
BillRM
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 09:26 pm
@hawkeye10,
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GF running around town with an armed guard protecting her after claiming to fear that George was going to come after her


Now that is funny with special note that right after he was supposed to had pointed a shotgun at her she remained in the front yard and now she need an armed guard!!!!!!!!

Beside the little fact that he was the one leaving and only her charges are keeping him from moving to Texas.

That gentleman is going to need to go without a woman in his life for a while or at the very least be far far more careful in who he picked for a girl friend.

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firefly
 
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Sat 7 Dec, 2013 11:21 pm
@hawkeye10,
Fortunately, for Samantha Scheibe, she had already been telling her story to a reporter for three weeks prior to the incident that led to Zimmerman's arrest, and she didn't get paid for it.

And she was communicating with the reporter in the hope of spurring Zimmerman to get psychiatric help, mainly for his depression and suicidal thoughts, while also protecting herself from his retaliation, once she went forward with a planned on-air interview with that reporter, also without payment to her.

She wanted out of the relationship, and she made that clear in her communications with the reporter, but she was afraid of Zimmerman, and he was in her house. So, talking to the reporter, an outside party, about how Zimmerman was acting, provided her some documentation and protection

And things that she told that reporter, such as the fact that Zimmerman had thrown her out of her home when he was in a rage, Zimmerman repeated just before his arrest, and the police could see that for themselves--Zimmerman was still barriacaded inside, and wouldn't let them in either.

So, right now there is no reason to doubt her credibility, none at all.

You think she doesn't have reason to be fearful of Zimmerman? Are you crazy?

Since his acquittal, we have been seeing the real George Zimmerman, and the reactions--of fear--he provokes in others. We don't have to wonder what Martin was feeling that night--it was the same sort of fear expressed in the two recent 911 calls about him, and the same sort of fear, about what he might do, that's been expressed by a Chief of Police.

And this new chapter in the Zimmerman Show, that's been opened with his recent arrest, is unclouded by issues of race, stand your ground, and all of the other hot button polarizing issues that obscured looking at Zimmerman as an individual the first time around--this time, the focus should remain on Zimmerman, without excuses for his flawed judgment and controls, and without looking to blame, or hold accountable, anyone but Zimmerman for his actions.

We know, from his bizarre 911 call, that Zimmerman is trying to weave "a woman scorned" scenario to explain what led to his arrest--and he's thrown in an allegedly hormonal pregnant woman, to make her "going crazy" seem even more plausible. That's classic Zimmerman. But, this time around, we know enough about him, and his patterns, that we should not just accept his self-serving version of events, and this time there is a living witness/victim who can testify against him.

So, let's hold off on trying to trash his latest accuser. This time, let the evidence unfold in court, where the credibility of both parties can be evaluated.

hawkeye10
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 12:58 am
@firefly,
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So, let's hold off on trying to trash his latest accuser
LOL, as if you are capable of not trashing a man named George Zimmerman!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 01:07 am
@firefly,
DAVID wrote:
Are u enjoying your Pearl Harbor Day, C. I. ?

firefly wrote:
Knock off that crap, David.
He racially insulted Bill; let him apologize.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 01:10 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Enjoy? What in the world are you talking about?
I'm American - third generaton; born and bred.
English does not appear to be your first language.


cicerone imposter wrote:
Did you also know that the Japanese American battalion,
the 442nd Infantry who fought during WWII, was the most decorated American army unit of any war?
Were U in that unit, C. I. ?





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 01:20 am
@BillRM,
DAVID wrote:
Are u enjoying your Pearl Harbor Day, C. I. ?

BillRM wrote:
David, I remember years ago before everything needed to be PC
a radio talk host joked that people should go out and
celebrate Pearl Harbor day by running a Japanese built car off the road.

Now days he would be fired at once but at the times it seems funny to me and I even own such a car.
IF I 'd known that, then I 'd have gotten my Toyota Prius Hybrid
with optional M-134 7.62mm Miniguns.

I just LOVE the M-134!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG3Hi7K9MU4

So much fun !





David
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