The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@BillRM,

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And there is the question of the culture and peers that you dealt with...and the culture and peers Trayvon did.

I am sure he was involved in a hoodlum culture with hoodlum peers.

Not sure how you could be sure...in fact, it sounds unreasonable to suppose you could be.

In any case, Bill, I see you as an out-of-control individual who supposes things are horrible...and acts out using that supposition. You have made every unnecessary negative assumption about Trayvon Martin you can...mostly, it appears, to back a fellow gun nut like George Zimmerman.

You ought to consider professional help.

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@BillRM,

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I'm sure you would be, David. But my guess is that if I were to ask you if I should unconditionally trust everyone who appears to be stalking me to be that wholesome, I suspect you might suggest I be cautious.

Being cautious does not mean attacking someone instead of just walking home if you do not wish to enacted with Zimmerman in case he might be hostile.

You do not know that Martin attacked Zimmerman...or if he reacted to an attack by Zimmerman. Martin may just have been cautious...up until the time that Zimmerman physically confronted him.

We really do not know which way it went.

We do know that Zimmerman stalked Martin...and that he shot and killed Martin.

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@BillRM,

You,

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I am sure he was involved in a hoodlum culture with hoodlum peers.

Another stupid assumption on your part without ANY EVIDENCE.

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@BillRM,

travon could have called 911, but did not. this is a kid who had been repeatedly in trouble who was dragged from his home against his will by dad so that he with not hang with is no good homies and yet dad does not care where he is. I find it fascinating is that travons dad made no effort to find his kid this night, did not even try to call him to see where he was. the kid was supposed to watch a ball game at home, he did not show and nobody noticed?

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@hawkeye10,

You are pretty stupid: a black kid calling the police? Give me a ******* break!

You never heard of police profiling? NEVER?

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ANALYSIS OF RACIAL DISPARITIES IN THE NEW YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S STOP, QUESTION, AND FRISK PRACTICES
RAND Corporation

In 2006, the New York City Police Department (NYPD) stopped a half-million pedestrians for suspected criminal involvement. Raw statistics for these encounters suggest large racial disparities � 89 percent of the stops involved nonwhites. Do these statistics point to racial bias in police officers� decisions to stop particular pedestrians? Do they indicate that officers are particularly intrusive when stopping nonwhites? The NYPD asked the RAND Center on Quality Policing (CQP) to help it understand this issue and identify recommendations for addressing potential problems. CQP researchers analyzed data on all street encounters between NYPD officers and pedestrians in 2006. They compared the racial distribution of stops to external benchmarks, attempts to construct what the racial distribution of the stopped pedestrians would have been if officers� stop decisions had been racially unbiased. Then they compared each officer�s stopping patterns with an internal benchmark constructed from stops in similar circumstances made by other officers. Finally, they examined stop outcomes, assessing whether stopped white and nonwhite suspects have different rates of frisk, search, use of force, and arrest. They found small racial differences in these rates and make communication, recordkeeping, and training recommendations to the NYPD for improving police-pedestrian interactions.

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@cicerone imposter,

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You are pretty stupid: a black kid calling the police? Give me a ******* break!

You never heard of police profiling? NEVER?

So if a black person feel at risk he would not call the cops is your theory?

Poor guy instead of calling the cops the best course of action would be to turn and attack the person you are worry about!!!!!!!!

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@cicerone imposter,

Here's more on Florida police racial profiling.

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Earl Sampson, 28, has been stopped by Miami Gardens police 258 times in four years, searched more than 100 times, and jailed 56 times at the store where he works for no reason.
A Florida police department is facing racial profiling charges after stopping a man 258 times and repeatedly charging him with trespassing at the convenience store where he works.

At least once a week for the last four years, Earl Sampson, 28, has been stopped by Miami Gardens police — and searched more than 100 times, jailed 56 times and arrested for trespassing 62 times, records show.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/police-stop-man-258-times-charge-trespassing-work-article-1.1526422#ixzz2moxtprWM

You guys have no understanding of how blacks are treated in this country; NONE. It's through total ignorance about this country - and about yourself.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Another stupid assumption on your part without ANY EVIDENCE.

Cell phone texts, cell phone pictures of more jewelries and a gun on a bed, and his many runs in with the school authority and so on.

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@Frank Apisa,

Trayvon unlike the picture of a innocence and smiling 13 years old that the news media try to sell was a late teen hoodlum by all the evidence available

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@BillRM,

You,

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was a late teen hoodlum by all the evidence available.

Provide all those evidence that are available?

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@cicerone imposter,

Did you know that priests wear hoods? How about Little Red Riding Hood?They're all hoodlums, after all!

You don't even know the definition of hoodlum.

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hood·lum (hdlm, hd-)
n.
1. A gangster; a thug.
2. A tough, often aggressive or violent youth.

Most of us know and understand that Zimmerman fills this description far more than Trayvon.

BTW, here's another descriptor for Zimmerman.

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hoodlum (ˈhuːdləm) noun
1. a destructive person.

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@hawkeye10,

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I find it fascinating is that travons dad made no effort to find his kid this night, did not even try to call him to see where he was.

What makes you think Trayvon's father made no effort to find him that night? He's a normal father, and he was extremely worried about why Trayvon had not returned from the store. He tried to call Trayvon, but the call went to voice mail. He tried to contact Trayvon's cousin, because he thought Trayvon might have been with him, but he couldn't reach the cousin.

First thing in the morning, he called the police. That's when the police showed up with a photo of Trayvon's corpse for him to identify. Until Mr. Martin called, they had no idea who Trayvon was.

What's "fascinating" is your lack of knowledge about Trayvon's parents, and all the erroneous and negative assumptions you keep making about them.

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@cicerone imposter,

Yes indeed a married middle class insurance agent that had taken his time to mentor black fatherless boys, raised hell over the an injustice done to a black homeless person and of course for years got out of his home to help his neigborhood be safer from crime is a real profile of a hoodlum.

What drugs are you on CI?

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@BillRM,

What has any of my posts have anything to do with what drugs I take?

Your imagination working overtime again!

What has your last post have anything to do with the Trayvon Martin case?

NONE.

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@cicerone imposter,

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What has any of my posts have anything to do with what drugs I take?

My guess no one could be so illogical as to call a fine outstanding and useful citizen more of a hoodlum then Trayvon without drugs interfering with his thinking abilities.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

It was 12 pieces of women's jewelry, but none were reported as stolen.
Bill and others like to jump to conclusions, because they are without evidence or facts
to back them up - like almost everything they claim about this case.

Bunch of losers without any conscience or ethical thinking of an
innocent kid that was killed by the aggressor and suicidal minded Zimmerman.

Are u enjoying your Pearl Harbor Day, C. I. ?

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Are u enjoying your Pearl Harbor Day, C. I. ?

Knock off that crap, David.

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Are u enjoying your Pearl Harbor Day, C. I. ?

David, I remember years ago before everything needed to be PC a radio talk host joked that people should go out and celebrate Pearl Harbor day by running a Japanese build car off the road.

Now days he would be fired at once but at the times it seems funny to me and I even own such a car.

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@BillRM,

Enjoy? What in the world are you talking about? I'm American - third generaton; born and bred. Did you also know that the Japanese American battalion, the 442nd Infantry who fought during WWII, was the most decorated American army unit of any war?

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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You are pretty stupid: a black kid calling the police? Give me a ******* break!

You never heard of police profiling? NEVER?

So if a black person feel at risk he would not call the cops is your theory?

Poor guy instead of calling the cops the best course of action would be to turn and attack the person you are worry about!!!!!!!!

You do not know that Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman...and it may very well have been the other way around.

Zimmerman was stalking Martin...so it is just as likely he made the first physical move as Martin.

We do know, however, that Zimmerman stalked Martin...and then shot him to death.

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