@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:he was looking at them as he walked by?
you're full of ****, counselor.
more speculation...
your argument is weak as hell.
Its not mine; its Zimmy 's.
Decedent stopped in the rain,
looking them over, thus attracting Zimmy 's attention.
David
@OmSigDAVID,
maybe thay had nice plants, I do that all the time.
but I'm not black.
and I don't have an edgy maniac with a gun watching and waiting to accost me.
(I'm also not a skinny little kid)
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:actually, dave, let's expound on this point for a moment.
how does one look when one cases houses?
aside from being black, of course...
As Zimmy described it
(if I understood him accurately [I have some hearing problems])
was that decedent looked around, as if to see
if anyone was looking at him,
while he was looking over
those houses, stopped in front of them, in the rain.
That 's how.
David
@OmSigDAVID,
dave, herein lies part of our problem.
you trust "Zimmy" and every word he speaks, because he is your hero.
I find him very untrustworthy based on his actions and lies to the court.
I think he is lying his ass off to avoid the consequences of his actions.
so if we discard his "testimony" and rely on the rest of the actual facts, your speculations are just that...
my speculation is he kept stopping to look around and see if that big creepy guy was still following him.
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:maybe thay had nice plants, I do that all the time.
Yea, right: u look at the plants at night,
in the dark, while it rains
and while u check around to see if anyone is looking at u. Right.
Rockhead wrote:but I'm not black.
If Zimmy were black,
he 'd never have been prosecuted because Sharpton, et al
wud not give a damn.
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:dave, herein lies part of our problem.
you trust "Zimmy" and every word he speaks, because he is your hero.
I find him very untrustworthy based on his actions and lies to the court.
I think he is lying his ass off to avoid the consequences of his actions.
so if we discard his "testimony" and rely on the rest of the actual facts, your speculations are just that...
my speculation is he kept stopping to look around and see if that big creepy guy was still following him.
Who has the burden of proof ??
@OmSigDAVID,
XYZ, dave.
your racism is sticking out again...
@OmSigDAVID,
"Who has the burden of proof ?? "
I don't get my instructions from a judge.
this is the court of public opinion.
no hiding behind the law here, counselor...
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
XYZ, dave. [????]
your racism is sticking out again...
Do u think that I am
POLITICALLY CORRECT, or that I wish to be
perceived as such??
I fight against political correctness and against liberalism, in favor of Americanism,
but I 'd kill a white as fast as I possibly cud,
if he pounded my head on the cement,
in such circumstances as Zimmy 's.
I am a big advocate of selfishness; I always was, not liberalism.
David
@OmSigDAVID,
I know all about your selfishness, dave.
we had a conversation once, a long time ago.
you told me all I needed to know about you then.
it's not my fault you are afraid of black kids...
End of week wrap-up:
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/zimmerman-trial-review-how-we-got-here-and-where-were-going/
discussion on FR:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3039252/posts
State's case is a total shambles as of now, state officials going around black neighborhoods begging people not to riot with the inevitable not-guilty verdict, Obunga's foreign policy a shambles all over the world, "arab-spring(TM)" government in Egypt forcibly overthrown after people refused to tolerate it, America a laughing stock all over the world, Russians laughing at Bork's request for NSA leaker, and the low-info fools who have visited this calamity on our nation still think they're riding a winning horse.....
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:I am a big advocate of selfishness; I always was, ... .
That you are so much like that, that you brag about being like that has always made me wonder how an eminently sensible lady like Boomerang could ever even consider letting you anywhere near her son.
@gungasnake,
oh cool, the butt cheese freeper fringe report...
@gungasnake,
Quote:Obunga's foreign policy a shambles all over the world, "arab-spring(TM)" government in Egypt forcibly overthrown after people refused to tolerate it, America a laughing stock all over the world, Russians laughing at Bork's request for NSA leaker, and the low-info fools who have visited this calamity on our nation still think they're riding a winning horse.....
Only the names have changed, Gunga. The situation is the same as it always has been.
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
as a resident he had every right to confront any suspicious person in the area under the motive of public safety,
He also had the obligation to make sure that things did not spin out of control.
Prudent, responsible people call the police and have the police handle it.
Irresponsible, rash people follow and confront "suspicious characters" on their own.
@Rockhead,
I do not fear blacks of any age,
your post to the contrary notwithstanding.
David
@DrewDad,
hawkeye10 wrote:as a resident he had every right to confront any suspicious person
in the area under the motive of public safety,
DrewDad wrote:He also had the obligation to make sure that things did not spin out of control.
O, really??
U mean that Zimmy had a duty to make sure that Martin
did not attack him, while Zimmy was exercising his rights of free speech??
What was the
SOURCE of that putative duty??
DrewDad wrote:Prudent, responsible people call the police and have the police handle it.
Zimmy did that.
DrewDad wrote:Irresponsible, rash people follow and confront "suspicious characters" on their own.
Maybe; so also do responsible folks,
if such be their choice (to exercise their rights).
David
And also, I might add, the "suspicious character" was only "suspicious" in Zimmerman's biased mind. He had in fact done NOTHING that could be considered a crime, nor had he any such intent. It was entirely Zimmerman's fault.
Under David's scenario, the macho wannabe-cop, packing a gun, which is primarily, depite David, an offensive weapon, with animus toward "the assholes who always get away", on the prod, who violated the terms of the neighborhood watch, CHASED Trayvon, ignoring the advice not to, and confronted him. That is PREDATOR=prey interaction--when the predator sees his prey fleeing, the chase-and-pounce reflex is initiated. Trayvon, on the other hand, frightened by this creepy, agressive character, ran awy.
Then, assocrding to David, Zimmerman, the agressor, turns into a scaredy rabbit, and Trayvon, the scared kid avoiding confrontation, turns into a homicidal maniac, all within two minutes.
That, David, just doesn't compute.
We know Zimmerman lkied about his knowledge of Stand Your Ground and Florida law. It seems pretty cleared he crafted his story deliberately to make himself appear the innocent victim, and it seems pretty clear the physical evidence doesn't bear him out
He killed an innocent kid, not a "suspicious character", and even if he's found not guilty, in a gross miscarriage of justice, he's managed to screw himself so thoroughly no police department in the country w2ould touch him with a ten-foot pole. And the country is the safer for that. Zimmerman should never be trusted with a badge.
