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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 10:33 am
@Baldimo,
Why? Because the police do not get involved until a crime is committed. The police already knows about Zimmerman's aggressive behavior.

If all the police agencies locked up all people with aggressive behavior, our prisons and jails will be occupied beyond our current rates.
Baldimo
 
  2  
Wed 4 Dec, 2013 10:41 am
@cicerone imposter,
3 weeks talking to a reporter and you don't find that odd? I'm making no judgments on the police, they were doing their job. I question the girl talking to the reporter via text for 3 weeks before the arrest.
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hawkeye10
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 10:52 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Because the police do not get involved until a crime is accused .
fixed

we dont know that any crime took place.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 4 Dec, 2013 11:10 am
@hawkeye10,
That's the reason she wrote to the news reporter. There will be a record about her fears, and that can be used in a court of law if anything should happen to her.

Since she doesn't own a gun, what other defense does she have?
Baldimo
 
  2  
Wed 4 Dec, 2013 11:14 am
@cicerone imposter,
Most people in a case like this will talk to family or friends, not a news reporter. Her actions are suspicious to say the least.
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hawkeye10
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 11:18 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
There will be a record about her fears, and that can be used in a court of law if anything should happen to her.
instigated by her no doubt. this is way too calculating for real life in a break up of a love relationship to be believed.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 4 Dec, 2013 11:43 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Your assumptions that somebody was trying to make money from this exchange is unfounded.


LOL
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BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 4 Dec, 2013 11:48 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Why? Because the police do not get involved until a crime is committed.


Or someone claimed there is a crime and this case the crime is likely to had been filing a false police report to both get back at Zimmerman for planning on leaving her and to raised the amount of money she can get for her story.

Zimmerman is guilty of having bad judgment concerning picking his women and for giving his girlfriend warning that he was going to leave her.
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 11:51 am
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As the George Zimmerman case proves, the rendering of a not guilty verdict in a state courtroom no longer suffices when it is disdained by the mob in the street, as well as a politicized DOJ more than willing to accommodate that mob. There are plenty of laws available to prosecute defendants for what they do. Prosecuting them for what they might be thinking–or worse, what someone else thinks they are thinking–is a dangerous standard. Using statistics to justify that effort is reprehensible.

Quote:
The Truth About Hate in America


http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/the-truth-about-hate-in-america/
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BillRM
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 11:52 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
That's the reason she wrote to the news reporter. There will be a record about her fears, and that can be used in a court of law if anything should happen to her.

Since she doesn't own a gun, what other defense does she have?


Leaving herself instead of waiting for him to start to leave perhaps and who said the lady does not own firearms as the last I hear she to have a cc licence.

footnote if someone did pointed a shotgun at me I would not be hanging around the front yard waiting for the police to show up!!!!!!!!!!!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 01:29 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
footnote if someone did pointed a shotgun at me
I would not be hanging around the front yard waiting for the police to show up!!!!!!!!!!!
U bring out a good point, Bill.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 01:32 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
That's the reason she wrote to the news reporter. There will be a record about her fears,
and that can be used in a court of law if anything should happen to her.

Since she doesn't own a gun, what other defense does she have?
HOW do U know u owns a gun, C. I. ???

Can u tell us how many guns
she bought within the last 1O minutes?
How many of them did she buy since yesterday ?
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 01:44 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

BillRM wrote:
footnote if someone did pointed a shotgun at me
I would not be hanging around the front yard waiting for the police to show up!!!!!!!!!!!
U bring out a good point, Bill.





David


this supports the story he tells that what happened was " get away from me crazy woman!" and she knew damn sure that he had no intention of coming after her. the blocked door was to keep her out because she was the threatening one.

there are many ways that this womans story does not add up. I am expecting the charges to be dropped on Jan 7 if not before.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 4 Dec, 2013 01:46 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
As I said in another posting David I remember reading that the lady also have a CC lic. even if so far I have not found that information yet on line.

In any case, there is zero reason to assume that she is not a gun owner due to her being a female perhaps?

Of the four adults women in my family three of them are gun owners so anyone who is depending on the idea that females are not guns owners would get a surprise in my family at least.

footnote the one woman that does not now own a firearm used to be able to out shoot my father with a 1911A 45 even it now at the age of 92 her eyesight is too poor to drive or fired a gun.
firefly
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 01:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
That's the reason she wrote to the news reporter. There will be a record about her fears, and that can be used in a court of law if anything should happen to her.

She's also establishing a record of how he's been acting in terms of his suicidal gestures and attempts--and, according to the reporter, Zimmerman had already taken an OD of pills once, in her house, and she couldn't rouse him, so she sat by his bed for hours and hours, in a high state of anxiety, making sure he was still breathing, because she didn't know what else to do. Had she called 911, for medical help, which is what she should have done, it would have resulted in massive media attention focused on his psychiatric state, and she feared what he might do to her about that. When she had insisted he go for psychiatric help, he blew up at her and threw her out of her own house. And, the day he was arrested, he had thrown her out again, something the police could verify for themselves because he was barricaded inside, which lends credibility to the behavior she had told the reporter about.

According to the reporter, her main reason for communicating with him was to spur George to get psychiatric help, if the texting led to an actual on-air interview with her, for which she would not have been paid, and she was not paid for any of the alleged info she did give the reporter by text and phone. And she kept postponing that actual interview, and she apparently thought that what she previously told the reporter was off the record and confidential.

But she was trying to protect herself, from what Zimmerman might do to her for revealing his psychiatric state, by telling the reporter about these things in advance of a sit-down on-air interview with him.

It was the reporter who made all of this public, to get his own scoop, and Scheibe has not commented on it, so we have not heard her side of this story and we haven't heard any of this info coming directly from her, or from her mother, who also communicated with the reporter, although I believe the mother has said that Scheibe was acting out of fear of Zimmerman in her communications with the reporter.

It sounds like Sheibe was at her wits end in trying to deal with Zimmerman's volatile mood states and her fears of what he might do to both of them. She was an old high school friend who reunited with him when his trial and his marriage ended, basically because she felt sorry for him, he was very depressed and she wanted to help him. They grew closer and he moved in with her, but, within a month, she really wanted to end the relationship, and she wanted him to get some help, and that's when she began communicating with the reporter. Prior to that, he'd blow up at her, but then apologize, and she'd forgive him. But her fears seem to have finally outweighed her ability to tolerate what she was having to live with.

All things considered, I don't see anything odd about her communicating with a reporter, given the fact she had a rather notorious person in her home, who was acting in a rather disturbed and threatening way, and she couldn't get him to leave or to go for help. And, the day he was arrested, she had told him to pack and get out, and after going through some motions of doing that, he apparently got really ticked off about it and that led to her calling 911.

Scheibe's communicating with the reporter is a lot more understandable, and considerably less odd, than Zimmerman's 911 call to the police, who were already pounding on the door, while he sat barricaded inside refusing them entry. And, never once during that calm, rather bizarre 911 call, did Zimmerman express any fears of harm from her, nor did he claim she had tried to harm him, so that wasn't why he was barricaded inside refusing to let the police in.
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 01:51 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Stupidity at its worst. If somebody is pointing a gun at you, that means it's too late to react. DUH! No brains.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 01:55 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
As I said in another posting David I remember reading that the lady
also have a CC lic. even if so far I have not found that information yet on line.
Does that mean that holders of Florida gun carry licenses
have been identified on line??



BillRM wrote:
In any case, there is zero reason to assume that
she is not a gun owner due to her being a female perhaps?

Of the four adults women in my family three of them are gun owners
so anyone who is depending on the idea that females are not gun owners
would get a surprise in my family at least.
Sounds good.
I 'm sure that martin wud not have attacked Zimmy,
if he 'd known that Zimmy was armed (if even only with a feeble 9mm automatic)
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 4 Dec, 2013 01:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Stupidity at its worst. If somebody is pointing a gun at you, that means it's too late to react. DUH! No brains.


You my friend stated that the girlfriend did not have firearms first of all and that was the issue we was addressing.

Next if she have any fear of Zimmerman using a firearm on her with special note of a shotgun her hanging around in plain sight in the front yard is not a rational act.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Wed 4 Dec, 2013 01:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
there are many ways that this womans story does not add up.
I am expecting the charges to be dropped on Jan 7 if not before.
I remain intensely pleased at my not
having the turbulence of domestic strife.





David
BillRM
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 02:01 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Does that mean that holders of Florida gun carry licenses
have been identified on line??


There was a story long before this last happening that Zimmerman girlfriend have a CC lic. and I have not yet been able to find the story with that information.

Next as far as I know who have CC lics are a matter of public record.

I will check if that is correct and get back to you.
 

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