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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Mon 2 Dec, 2013 03:42 pm
@BillRM,
That he has to bring that evil into anything you would like to talk about is just a way of protesting too much. Izzy has decided and will not be confused by the facts. The medias lies in his opinion are warranted. And you seeing it a different way has simply turned you into what he sees in his comments.
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firefly
 
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Mon 2 Dec, 2013 03:59 pm
@BillRM,
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So once more why should I give any repeat any credit to any of the news media that had lied so often to the public over this matter?????????????

http://forums.startreknewvoyages.com/Smileys/classic/AnimMouse.gif
Where did you get your information from, about what a wonderful person Zimmerman is? How he allegedly helped some homeless man, and doesn't have a racist bone in his body, etc.. Wasn't that from the lying media? Laughing

Right, why believe the media reports that Zimmerman has been arrested again, for, among other things, threatening someone with a gun, in a situation not involving self-defense, and that he is charged with a felony for that one. And, when the police responded to that person's 911 call, they found he had locked her out of her own home, and barricaded himself inside it, and wouldn't open the door for them either. It's not like these media reports can actually be verified, because the information was in police reports, and was revealed in a public courtroom, where Zimmerman stood before a judge in hand-cuffs. Oh no, you just know the media made it all up. Laughing
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 2 Dec, 2013 06:07 pm
@firefly,
You,
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And, why bother trying to reason with fools, C.I.?


I often wonder about that myself. Maybe, it's time to cut and run from these insane jokers called David, oralboy, Bill, hawk, et al.

I'm putting all of them on Ignore. I've wasted enough time with people who has no reality based on any of the facts and media reports.
BillRM
 
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Mon 2 Dec, 2013 07:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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I'm putting all of them on Ignore. I've wasted enough time with people who has no reality based on any of the facts and media reports.


LOL the media reports of the edit 911 tape to make it appear as if Zimmerman was concern about Trayvon race?

The media report that Zimmerman had used the word coon in the 911 tape?

The media report that first that Zimmerman was white then a white latin?

The media report of Trayvon being shown in pictures as a smiling and innocent child of 13 years or so instead of the young man he had grown into by the night of the attack?

Lot of media reports that was either outright lies or very misleading that turn a simple case of self defense into some strange racial killing.

I know CI that you would love to think of this case in term of an evil white racist gun nut killing an innocent young black child but no matter how you pound on the facts they can not be made to fit your theory of what happen that night.
RABEL222
 
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Mon 2 Dec, 2013 09:31 pm
@BillRM,
I think CI is much more aware of the true facts than you or Oralboy or David or Remio or CJ.
oralloy
 
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Mon 2 Dec, 2013 09:39 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:
I think CI is much more aware of the true facts than you or Oralboy or David or Remio or CJ.

Pipe down, retard. You and CI are both way too stupid to ever recognize a fact if you happened to see one.
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firefly
 
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Mon 2 Dec, 2013 09:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
David, oralloy, and BillRM don't seem to have noticed that Zimmerman has had numerous run-ins with the police since his acquittal, and that he's been arrested again and faces charges that could put him in prison for up to 18 years.

In addition, his mother-in-law alleges he stole $4000+ worth of property from her home and defaced the interior, and his estranged wife gave the police a bullet hole ridden target he hung on the wall for her to find.

But they also didn't want to face the fact that, long before he killed Trayvon Martin, Zimmerman had an arrest for assault, and had an restraining order taken out against him, for domestic violence, by an ex-fiancée.

Zimmerman is anything but a law-abiding good citizen, or someone to be admired...

And, even one of the jurors who acquiited him said, "George Zimmerman got away with murder."

So to listen to BillRM mindlessly repeating, incessantly, his canned spiel extoling this man, or to hear them all holding him up an example of why one needs guns for protection--when the police concluded he caused an unnecessary and avoidable death because he didn't remain in his car--or to witness oralloy, the necrophiliac, repeatedly posting pictures of a dead child's corpse in celebration of Zimmerman's handiwork, or to listen to David suggesting better guns for Zimmerman to use, is like breathing in a sickening stench.

These people really do like the idea of killing people.

Unless one enjoys exposing oneself to a stench, why breath it in? Why give them the dignity of a response? They really aren't interested in anything you have to say, they don't listen to anything that doesn't agree with their mindset, a mindset which seems to boil down to guns=good. And they plain don't care whether those guns are in the hands of emotionally disturbed or irresponsible people or those with poor judgment and impaired impulse control....like George Zimmerman.

These people really do like the idea of killing people.

Sick, isn't it?
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BillRM
 
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Mon 2 Dec, 2013 09:54 pm
@RABEL222,
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I think CI is much more aware of the true facts than you or Oralboy or David or Remio or CJ.


Well he is cheerfully willing not only to ignore anyone who dare to disagree with him but he is also cheerfully willing to go along with the news media attempts to paint Zimmerman as a gun nut white racist even when all evidence show otherwise and how many falsehood the news media had issue about the man to date/

Poor Zimmerman first a victim of an assault then a victim of the news media and the government trying to paint him as the criminal and his attacker as a smiling 13 years old innocent kid.

Then after a jury looking at the evidents throw those charges out they still kept on the poor man.

First page news when he broke the speed limit with the word gun added to the story even those there are hundred of thousands of Florida drivers who are stop ever year for speeding that happen to be legally arm. Big deal indeed.

Then when the bullshit he was put through broke up his marriage and his soon to be ex-wife was willing to say bad things about him that also was front or near front page news.

Next his girlfriend was shopping some tell all book for $$$$$ that show him in a bad light and placed some she said he said charges on him that we should just buy into with no need of evidence as after all we all know by way of the news media what a bad man he is with his stockpile of 5 guns and a hundred rounds of ammo.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Mon 2 Dec, 2013 10:52 pm
When the dozy ****-for-brains jury acquitted OJ Simpson they made a laughing stock of the whole American legal system, so full marks to the Zim case jury for going some way to restoring the credibility of US justice..Smile
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firefly
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 01:13 am
For those interested in the current legal reality of George Zimmerman's life, here is a link to the court docket for his case

http://www.seminoleclerk.org/CriminalDocket/case_detail.jsp?CaseNo=592013CF003316A

His next court appearance is for arraignment on Jan. 7, 2014.
hawkeye10
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 01:54 am
@firefly,
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Before George Zimmerman was arrested on domestic violence charges in Florida, he reportedly planned to move to Texas. According to a search warrant obtained by the Associated Press, Zimmerman told police he was separating from girlfriend Samantha Scheibe and headed to the Lone Star State when the two had a heated argument.

Scheibe called 911 and Zimmerman, who had five guns and more than 100 rounds of ammunition in his home, was arrested November 18 for aggravated assault, battery and criminal mischief. He was released the next day on a $9,000 bond in Seminole County.

Conditions of that bond dictate that Zimmerman is not allowed to possess any weapons or leave the state of Florida. Of course, that could all change at his next court date on January 7

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/life/11-27-13-george-zimmerman-move-texas-arrest-domestic-violence-guns/

anyone know who is in Texas? I bet someone who has been sending George money.
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hawkeye10
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 02:21 am
@BillRM,
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Next his girlfriend was shopping some tell all book for $$$$$ that show him in a bad light
every day that goes by with no contact decreases the value of her story. shellie on the other hand was just doing Katie Couric working on parleying her george zimmerman story into a new career as a victim culture advocate.



"leaving him was the best thing I have over done". sorry, you spoiled this story line earlier when you told the press that George left you and refused to have contact with you so that maybe just maybe you were going to have to divorce him.

what ever george has that makes women go crazy over him I want some of.
BillRM
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 04:03 am
@hawkeye10,
He sure the hell Hawkeye seems to be making them mad when he is trying to walk out the door on them.

I had hear of women being in danger when they are leaving an abusive man but I never hear that being the case when the man is packing his bags and trying to leave them!!!!!

In order to try to sell this story of abusive they are going to need to work up a whole new theory where men with suitcases in hand have a sudden desire to harm the women as they are leaving.

My bet is no matter how illogical that might be Firefly is up to the challenge of coming up with such a theory.
firefly
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 10:14 am
@hawkeye10,
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what ever george has that makes women go crazy over him I want some of. ..

You mean the women who get restraining orders against him? Or the ones who call 911 because they are terrified and don't know what the whacko will do next with his gun?

Yup, women really go crazy over good old George. Laughing

I think you probably already have the same appeal to women that he does now.
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firefly
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 10:52 am
@BillRM,
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In order to try to sell this story of abusive they are going to need to work up a whole new theory where men with suitcases in hand have a sudden desire to harm the women as they are leaving.

That's why it's going to be hard for George to explain why he didn't just leave, instead of locking his girlfriend out of her house and barricading the door with furniture.

Unfortunately for George, the police found him barricaded in the house refusing to open the door for them--they had to shove the furniture aside to get in--so they saw that part of the crime scene for themselves.

Of course, he also had time to alter the crime scene while he was barricaded inside. He locked up the shotgun in a case, and he may have done other things as well, like thrown his stuff around to make it appear as though she had done it.

We know he lies, and tries to manipulate evidence-that's what he did in his murder case, when he transferred his funds between accounts in a deliberate fraudulent scheme to deceive the court about his assets, and he had a second passport as well. He may well be deceiving the court about his assets again now.

I can't wait to hear George explain why he didn't leave her house, instead of throwing her out and barricading himself inside of it, refusing to allow the police entry. And why he called 911, when he did not need emergency assistance, and the police were already pounding on the door and windows, demanding he let them in because they wanted to talk to him. This one should be a real Zimmerman whopper. Laughing
spendius
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 06:19 pm
@firefly,
He is probably in a mental state, ff, that you might need to experience in order to understand.
firefly
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 07:49 pm
@spendius,
Oh, I think the man is definitely experiencing rather significant psychiatric problems, but he had those problems long before he killed Trayvon Martin, they've just gotten worse lately.

His not letting the police in, and instead calling 911, as a way of getting out his "side of the story" could not have been a more manipulative tactic--this man is a schemer. He came up with a story that would blame and discredit her, or so he hoped, and by barricading the door, he gave himself time to possibly alter the crime scene so it might better fit his version of events.

The problem is, his "story", as expressed in his extremely calm, matter-of-fact 911 call, really doesn't sound credible or plausible at all. And, because his 911 call was recorded, and it's been played in the media, he's stuck with that version now.

What Zimmerman likely didn't know was that his girlfriend had been texting a reporter for three weeks, describing his disturbed and volatile and threatening, and vindictive, behaviors, her fears of him and of what he might do to either her or himself, and her desire and efforts to get him to go for psychiatric help, and her wish to separate from him because she was afraid. And because she had established some "documentation" of what he was like, and what her life with him was like, and the fact she did want to end the relationship, weeks prior to his arrest, I think it helps to lend her story more credibility than his considerably less than plausible version of what transpired the day she called 911.

Also, he's been exhibiting a pattern of threatening behaviors toward others, like his estranged wife, lately, and when an ex-fiancée tried to break off with him in 2005, he also became aggressive toward her and she obtained a restraining order against him.

And this time, the police had no hesitancy about arresting him, so they found her credible too.

We'll have to wait to see how this unfolds in court.

But, he'll have to come up with something to explain why he stayed barricaded in the house, with the police pounding on the door, while he picked up the phone and and called 911, to tell his "story". And now he's stuck with that implausible story.
Baldimo
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 10:13 am
@firefly,
I find it interesting that she was in contact with a reporter via txt message before the latest issue. You don't find it interesting that she was talking to a reporter for 3 weeks and then they have a blow up? Sounds like someone has been trying to make some money from George's life. Of course you see nothing wrong with this. I wonder how much she instigated the confrontation, so that the police would get involved?
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 10:22 am
@Baldimo,
Your assumptions that somebody was trying to make money from this exchange is unfounded. Your projections about other people say more about you than the people you seem to easily criticize.

Get a life! All of you who have imaginations beyond the normal seem hellbent to protect Zimmerman over those people who were victims.

You can't even see your own emotional problems!
Baldimo
 
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Wed 4 Dec, 2013 10:29 am
@cicerone imposter,
Why else would she be in communication with a reporter for 3 weeks? Normal people do not exchange text messages about their partners unless they are to get something form it.

Have you ever talked with a reporter for 3 weeks via text about your partner?

Emotional problems? What are you on about CI? Why you always turning this personal? Nothing better to do but bust people's balls with personal ****?
 

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