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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 07:02 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:

Unbelievable this guy, more unbelievable is that people still apparently believe him.


I cannot help but get the feeling that Zimmerman MAY be feeling pangs of consciousness some of his supporters are unable to muster.

He does seem to be setting himself up for "suicide by cops"...setting up a situation where cops will have to gun him down.

He certainly does not want to spend any time in a prison anywhere in the United States. Or if he is, maybe "suicide with fellow convict assist" is what he is after.

I think he is purposefully trying to get himself killed.
trying2learn
 
  1  
Tue 19 Nov, 2013 07:31 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
He does seem to be setting himself up for "suicide by cops"...setting up a situation where cops will have to gun him down.
I don't believe you. Why do you quote and then explain what you quote?
oralloy
 
  1  
Tue 19 Nov, 2013 07:43 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:
Unbelievable this guy, more unbelievable is that people still apparently believe him. I didn't go back through the pages, but I imagine the defense of Zimmerman here by some is still going strong.

Regarding the earlier charges, facts continue to remain facts, despite the desire to lynch the innocent that manifests itself in certain evil people.

As far as these recent accusations go, there is not yet enough data to justify forming an opinion.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 07:57 am
@trying2learn,
trying2learn wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
He does seem to be setting himself up for "suicide by cops"...setting up a situation where cops will have to gun him down.


I don't believe you.


Bummer!

I'll try to live with that.

Quote:
Why do you quote and then explain what you quote?


Some people may not be familiar with the expression "suicide by cops." I come from a family of cops...and I used the expression "suicide by cops" for those who understand it...but after typing it, I thought it might be appropriate to explain what it means for those who might not.

Is there some grammatical convention that I violated?
trying2learn
 
  1  
Tue 19 Nov, 2013 08:14 am
@Frank Apisa,
I don't mean to argue with you. You come from a family of cops? Tell me something I don't know.

Leave the guy alone.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Tue 19 Nov, 2013 08:30 am
@trying2learn,
trying2learn wrote:

I don't mean to argue with you. You come from a family of cops? Tell me something I don't know. [/quote

Leave the guy alone.
[/quote]

If you do not mean to argue with me...why are you arguing and addressing the arguments to me?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 09:20 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:
Unbelievable this guy, more unbelievable is that people still apparently believe him.
I still believe that the jury was 1OO% right.
If he violates any law in the future,
then he 'll be run thru the judicial process for it.
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MontereyJack
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 09:57 am
oralloy says:
Quote:
No, when the dispatcher advised Mr. Zimmerman that they didn't need him to follow Trayvon, he was at the same location where, some three minutes later, the confrontation/shooting occurred.



You have some sort of magical GPS that tells you this, that no one else has? No. The fact remains that Zimmerman stalked Trayvon, who was totally innocently simply returning home, and killed him.

The more we see of Zimmerman, and this latest incident reinforces it, is that he's prone to agressive confrontation. And it all too often includes agressive use of guns.
MontereyJack
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 10:19 am
And T:"Why are you chasing me?", Z::"What are you doing here?" T:"Get off of me", sounds like an all-too-typical, as we have seen, Zimmerman agressive confrontation, cutting directly to Zimmerman's agression toward Trayvon.
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 10:24 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

oralloy says:
Quote:
No, when the dispatcher advised Mr. Zimmerman that they didn't need him to follow Trayvon, he was at the same location where, some three minutes later, the confrontation/shooting occurred.



You have some sort of magical GPS that tells you this, that no one else has? No. The fact remains that Zimmerman stalked Trayvon, who was totally innocently simply returning home, and killed him.

The more we see of Zimmerman, and this latest incident reinforces it, is that he's prone to agressive confrontation. And it all too often includes agressive use of guns.


I have no problem seeing this at all, Jack.

Obviously if you are trying to explain it to a brick wall, though...you will encounter the trouble you are encountering here.
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hawkeye10
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 10:39 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:

Unbelievable this guy, more unbelievable is that people still apparently believe him. I didn't go back through the pages, but I imagine the defense of Zimmerman here by some is still going strong.

"I could quickly go find out what the reality is but I am too lazy so I will assume that people suck"
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Baldimo
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 10:47 am
@MontereyJack,
Talk about making stuff up. The only quote you got right in that was the Get off me. Where did you get the rest of the quotes?
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 10:52 am
When the US legal system acquitted OJ Simpson it made itself a laughing stock around the world.
It might have helped if the jury had been normal sensible people and not a bunch of halfwits who let Simpsons lawyers run rings round them.
The Zimmerman jury seemed far more sensible so things are looking up..Smile
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hawkeye10
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 11:18 am
even the best case reading of this event is not good for Zimmerman, it has him as a poor picker of women. His argument is that these women are high strung and call 911 for no good reason, which gets less likely the more women do it. depending on what the state can prove about his access to the gun she claims he pointed at GF at the time she claims he did it this arrest could end in significant jail time.

proven aggression in intimate relationship by Zimmerman would not change my opinion of the legality of the Martin killing.
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hawkeye10
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 11:32 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
a man does not lose the right to pursue a suspected criminal through his neighborhood due to having aggression issues. also to that point his aggression issues had not risen to the level that would or should deprive him of the right to carry a gun, though they well might have as of yesterday.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 12:33 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Did you hear his 911 call to the police today?


Trying to cover his tracks is the insidious individual, George Zimmerman. So calm as if he would not kill a fly; underneath one senses someone who is stealthily treacherous. Zimmerman's phone call sounded as if his girlfriend were the aggressor. The police evidently did not believe him because from the last I read he was still in jail.

Opps! Zimmerman is about to be arraigned according to my pop-up notice.
Moment-in-Time
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 12:50 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
I just listened to Zimmerman's arraignment and what was surprising was there was a separate incident a week ago...strangulation. His girlfriend did not report it at the time but this time she did; she said Zimmerman had tried to choke her!
coldjoint
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 01:50 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
How many domestic violence cases are there in a day? This is just another and proves nothing but the truth in this incident alone.

Let's talk about Black on black crime. or fatherless children supported by taxpayers.
To victimize Zimmerman because of the failures of the black family is all this is about.
hawkeye10
 
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Tue 19 Nov, 2013 01:54 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:

I just listened to Zimmerman's arraignment and what was surprising was there was a separate incident a week ago...strangulation. His girlfriend did not report it at the time but this time she did; she said Zimmerman had tried to choke her!
and she claims to be in fear of her life, but a $9,000 bail indicates to me that the judge did not put much stock into that.

one thing I have noticed is that every time cops deal with Zimmerman they describe him as cooperative and calm. Makes you wonder why his women claim he is so different towards them.
 

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