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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
firefly
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 03:46 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Thank you, Frank. I truely appreciate your encouraging comments.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 04:10 pm
@firefly,
Quote:

If Zimmerman is a "victim" of anything, it's his own volatility, his impaired impulse control, and his poor judgment.


Oh dear, how often do we hear "everybody has faults"?! After reading your previous post highlighting George Zimmerman many offenses, one comes to the conclusion this respective individual has a cartload of deep-seated problems. The mindset of Zimmerman's supporters resembles the cross-grained Ted Cruz inside his parallel world.
BillRM
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 04:19 pm
@Frank Apisa,
My lord you dare to posted a picture of Trayvon showing him as he was when he attacked Zimmerman not as the smiling innocent looking 13 years old the media kept using!!!!!!!!!!!

Shame on you.

Take note that a jury did not agree with your strange version of reality.

Quote:
All he was doing was walking home from the store, and trying to get there in time to watch a basketball game on TV.


Another of the many many lies as he was not in a hurry walking slowly in the rain one of the factors that drawn Zimmerman attention to him in the first place.

Quote:


From the book "If I had a Son" by Jack Cashill
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In his initial call to the nonemergency dispatcher and in his subsequent interviews, he explained the variables, all of them relevant, that led him to suspect Trayvon Martin may have been “up to no good.”
• It was raining, and Martin was wandering about, not jogging or walking swiftly to a destination. Zimmerman’s observation was validated by the unaccounted-for twenty-five minutes in Martin’s return from the 7-Eleven.
• Martin was looking at houses. The area had been plagued by burglaries and home invasions, particularly along its unfenced western flank, where Zimmerman first spotted Martin.
• Martin looked high. The THC in his blood indicated he was. As Martin’s recent history suggested, he got high a lot.
• Martin looked like he was “up to no good.” Given his recent apprehension for possession of stolen jewelry and a burglary tool, Zimmerman may have been right.
• Martin was male. This was perhaps the most significant variable. Males had committed all known property crime in the area.
• Martin was in his “late teens.” So were a disproportionate percentage of the criminal suspects.
• Martin was tall. He was a full-grown young man, not a child.
• When asked, Zimmerman speculated that Martin “looked black.” Forty seconds later, he confirmed that Martin was black. Zimmerman had dubbed him “suspicious” before he knew his race. In that all recent arrests had been of young black men, however, Martin’s race likely factored into Zimmerman’s thinking. How could it not?
• The fact that Martin wore a hoodie seemed the least significant of all variables. Zimmerman mentioned this only when asked—“Yeah, a dark hoodie, like a gray hoodie, and either jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes”—and made no point of the hoodie afterwards. It was, after all, raining.
BillRM
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 04:27 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Quote:
resembles the cross-grained Ted Cruz inside his parallel world.


A parallel universe that a jury of six women shared after hearing the state case or lack of a case.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 04:34 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

My lord you dare to posted a picture of Trayvon showing him as he was when he attacked Zimmerman not as the smiling innocent looking 13 years old the media kept using!!!!!!!!!!!

Shame on you.

Take note that a jury did not agree with your strange version of reality.

Quote:
All he was doing was walking home from the store, and trying to get there in time to watch a basketball game on TV.


Another of the many many lies as he was not in a hurry walking slowly in the rain one of the factors that drawn Zimmerman attention to him in the first place.

Quote:


From the book "If I had a Son" by Jack Cashill
------------------------------------------------------

In his initial call to the nonemergency dispatcher and in his subsequent interviews, he explained the variables, all of them relevant, that led him to suspect Trayvon Martin may have been “up to no good.”
• It was raining, and Martin was wandering about, not jogging or walking swiftly to a destination. Zimmerman’s observation was validated by the unaccounted-for twenty-five minutes in Martin’s return from the 7-Eleven.
• Martin was looking at houses. The area had been plagued by burglaries and home invasions, particularly along its unfenced western flank, where Zimmerman first spotted Martin.
• Martin looked high. The THC in his blood indicated he was. As Martin’s recent history suggested, he got high a lot.
• Martin looked like he was “up to no good.” Given his recent apprehension for possession of stolen jewelry and a burglary tool, Zimmerman may have been right.
• Martin was male. This was perhaps the most significant variable. Males had committed all known property crime in the area.
• Martin was in his “late teens.” So were a disproportionate percentage of the criminal suspects.
• Martin was tall. He was a full-grown young man, not a child.
• When asked, Zimmerman speculated that Martin “looked black.” Forty seconds later, he confirmed that Martin was black. Zimmerman had dubbed him “suspicious” before he knew his race. In that all recent arrests had been of young black men, however, Martin’s race likely factored into Zimmerman’s thinking. How could it not?
• The fact that Martin wore a hoodie seemed the least significant of all variables. Zimmerman mentioned this only when asked—“Yeah, a dark hoodie, like a gray hoodie, and either jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes”—and made no point of the hoodie afterwards. It was, after all, raining.



I hope you eventually conquer the sickness driving you, Bill.
BillRM
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 04:45 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
I hope you eventually conquer the sickness driving you, Bill


Yes anyone who are not willing to shut their mind and reason down in order to be able to buy into the nonsense that the news media put out is very sick indeed

Damn it Zimmerman is white repeat white and a racist repeat a racist and a cold blooded killer of a poor innocent black child.

Facts, such as Zimmerman being of mixed race to the point that his own mother was bar from southern lunch counters at times in the 1950s or that he stood up for a homeless black man and mentor fatherless black children and dated black women all should be disregards.

oralloy
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 04:46 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Coud the home owner SEE thru the door (glass door, or screen door) ??
or was it a wooden door thru which he accidentally shot ?
Did the home owner see the decedent b4 his gun went off?

No idea. But they just charged him with second degree murder.


OmSigDAVID wrote:
Oralloy, I wonder if u 'd consider dedicating a new thread
to discussion of this recent event, inasmuch as this thread
is already dedicated to Zimmy 's prosecution ?

I'm not sure if I know enough about the case. I'm only superficially following it.
oralloy
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 04:47 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
your strange version of reality.
BillRM wrote:
Another of the many many lies

It's Frank Apisa. All he ever does is lie, lie again, and then lie some more.

Don't expect anything from Frank Apisa other than a neverending spew of outrageous lies.
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BillRM
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 04:53 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Here Frank is a picture of the white racist Zimmerman mother.



http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130705184025-gladys-zimmerman-horizontal-gallery.jpg
BillRM
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 05:01 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
No idea. But they just charged him with second degree murder.


Second degree murder instead of manslaughter ????????

Lord they do love to overcharge in the state of florida.
Moment-in-Time
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 05:27 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:

I hope you eventually conquer the sickness driving you, Bill.


Ditto! But from a realistic aspect, some mental diseases are genetic and a panacea has yet to be discovered.
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 05:32 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
I hope you eventually conquer the sickness driving you, Bill


Yes anyone who are not willing to shut their mind and reason down in order to be able to buy into the nonsense that the news media put out is very sick indeed

Damn it Zimmerman is white repeat white and a racist repeat a racist and a cold blooded killer of a poor innocent black child.

Facts, such as Zimmerman being of mixed race to the point that his own mother was bar from southern lunch counters at times in the 1950s or that he stood up for a homeless black man and mentor fatherless black children and dated black women all should be disregards.




I don't care if they were both purple with pink polka dots. Zimmerman was the aggressor...and Martin was the victim.
firefly
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 05:32 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM, thanks for pointing out that Zimmerman's mother is a racist--she's described herself in that way.

Witnesses have said that Zimmerman's mother had/has racist attitudes, and described herself as being racist.
Quote:
"I was afraid that he may have done something because the kid was black,” the witness told investigators. “Because growing up they’ve always made, him and his family have always made statements that they don’t like black people if they don’t act like white people. They like black people if they act white and other than that, they talk a lot of bad things about black people.”
The woman said that Zimmerman’s Peruvian mother was among the more boastfully racist of the clan.

“His mother protested it very loud,” the woman said. During one incident, the woman said that Zimmerman’s mother had come to the witness’s workplace, and during a discussion about President Obama, made it clear how she felt about him and his ethnicity.

“I don’t like Obama,” the woman claimed Zimmerman’s mother stated. “She said, 'because he is black and I am a racist.'”

“I have a black girl that works right behind me and I’m like, what, are you just, let's go, and I kind of just swept her in the back,” the woman recalled. “I can’t believe that she stood there so loud and proud and said that she was a racist.”
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/21/1225435/-The-Racism-of-the-Zimmerman-Family

Zimmerman's ex-fiancée also pointed out his mother's attitude toward blacks.
Quote:
At family gatherings, she said, much of the conversation centered around "financial status and material things." Zimmerman's mother would often talk about "marrying into white families in order to improve one's status."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/21/1225435/-The-Racism-of-the-Zimmerman-Family


And Zimmerman's close friend, a man who was on TV constantly, acting as George's mouthpiece to voice Zimmerman's "talking points", is a flaming racist.

George Zimmerman's Biggest Defender: A Racist With a Criminal Past
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/08/frank-taaffe-george-zimmerman-racist-white-voice

And, idiots like you, who apparently share that man's racist attitudes, stupidly bought into all of those "talking points", and that's the distorted and inaccurate crap you keep on mindlessly spouting.
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ossobuco
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 05:49 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
I am hoping you feeders stop with it.
But you get off on arguing forever with twine.
oralloy
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 06:08 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
oralloy wrote:
No idea. But they just charged him with second degree murder.

Second degree murder instead of manslaughter ????????
Lord they do love to overcharge in the state of florida.

Michigan not Florida. I was referring to the Detroit case where the shotgun accidentally went off.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 06:40 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:

I am hoping you feeders stop with it.
But you get off on arguing forever with twine.


Huh?!?! What did I do, Osso? I do have immense respect for you. I simply do not understand your post to me even tho I can guess it's one of recrimination against my responses to another.
BillRM
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 06:48 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I
Quote:
don't care if they were both purple with pink polka dots. Zimmerman was the aggressor...and Martin was the victim.


Strange as none of the evidence show anything of the kind but dream on as there was nothing at all that would had prevented Trayvon from just walking home instead of turning an attacking Zimmerman.
ossobuco
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 07:06 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
It's the generality. We (mostly, I don't know numbers but have myself) fed the repetitive posters of nonsense by answering. Once is good enough.

Incessant pages go by, moving into the hundreds with a sort of endless badmindton, which is the point of the brainstarved who started it. Repetitativo again. (I made that up).

I'm not at all against you, MIT, the opposite.

I see feeders who adore arguing infinitely, whatever the views.

There is a reason this has gone on for a giant number of pages, and that is because it is fed.



ossobuco
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 07:10 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Oh, and besides that, don't quail re me. I won't just say I get you - though I think I do - we are all complicated, but I'm really glad you're here. ok, extremely glad.
Moment-in-Time
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2013 07:27 pm
@ossobuco,
Osso, Thank you for your kind response to me. You are indeed gentle and considerate. I'll try to keep in mind I should not feed the....whatever. But really, part of the fun is taking potshots at the spitefully blind undeserving posters who're mindlessly bias with the inability to see both sides of the coin.
 

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