The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@BillRM,

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there was nothing at all that would had prevented Trayvon from just walking home...

Except George Zimmerman...who was determined not to let this one get away.

Trayvon Martin wasn't the one doing the stalking. Martin was just a kid walking home from the store and talking on his phone as he did that.

Zimmerman instigated and provoked the entire situation by profiling, stalking, menacing, and finally confronting, an innocent kid who was just minding his own business in a place he had every right to be. And Zimmerman did nothing to try to defuse the situation, including failing to identify himself or his motives when he finally came face to face with him. For all Martin knew, Zimmerman could have been a serial killer. He would have had every reason to try to defend himself from this "creepy white guy" who was stalking him, in the dark, for no apparent reason.

The self-styled vigilante with the gun was the aggressor.... and, unfortunately, he continues to provoke aggressive encounters. Eight police units responded to his last one, and the Police Chief of that department regards Zimmerman as a ticking time bomb who poses a danger to the community.

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there was nothing at all that would had prevented Trayvon from just walking home...

Except George Zimmerman...had he had the self control to remain in his car, Travyon Martin would have continued walking home, and gotten there unharmed.

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@ossobuco,

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There is a reason this has gone on for a giant number of pages, and that is because it is fed.

If you find it boring, stop reading it.

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@firefly,

I do find you jousting with assholes over and over forever boring. Or a milking.

I read because I am interested.

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@ossobuco,

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I do find you jousting with assholes over and over forever boring. Or a milking.

Then why are you here, osso? Rolling Eyes

Why are you lurking and reading something you find repetitive and boring?

Obviously, I'm getting something out of posting, otherwise I wouldn't be doing it. Truthfully, you being bored is not my problem, or concern.

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I read because I am interested.

Then stop complaining. Laughing

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@firefly,

I'm here because I'm interested in Florida and not only re politics but the place. Are you?

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@ossobuco,

No, I'm not particularly interested in Florida. And this thread really isn't about Florida. It's about a particular criminal case that happened to take place in Florida.

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@firefly,

Ok, then.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
I don't care if they were both purple with pink polka dots. Zimmerman was the aggressor...and Martin was the victim.

Strange as none of the evidence show anything of the kind but dream on as there was nothing at all that would had prevented Trayvon from just walking home instead of turning an attacking Zimmerman.

Every single thing that Frank Apisa ever says is always a complete and utter lie.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

We (mostly, I don't know numbers but have myself) fed the repetitive posters of nonsense by answering.

Those who you call "repetitive posters of nonsense" are the ones who tell the truth and back their claims with actual evidence.

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@oralloy,

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Those who you call "repetitive posters of nonsense" are the ones who tell the truth and back their claims with actual evidence.

Well, that leaves you out, oralloy.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8329/8107439339_fe30eddf81_o.gif

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@Moment-in-Time,

Moment-in-Time wrote:

You are indeed gentle and considerate.

Nonsense. Ossobuco is a vile scumbag who delights in the idea of sending innocent people to prison.

Moment-in-Time wrote:

the spitefully blind undeserving posters who're mindlessly bias with the inability to see both sides of the coin.

You mean the ones with morals and ethics, who adhere to the truth and insist on doing the right thing?

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@oralloy,

I'll have to check, maybe I actually posted to oralloy on my thread on a trial in Perugia, but also maybe not. I shut him out because he is nutso - not just disagreement, we could all get disagreement one way or another, but he was wanting to bomb italians.

Since then I never read.

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@ossobuco,

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Ok, then.

I think, Osso, the main purpose of these message forums is being overlooked. The message boards serve a therapeutic purpose. People discuss freely their opinions on current subjects, elaborating over and over until they're satisfied. The Zimmerman case is an unresolved one in the minds of many Americans with a significant number believing justice has not been served. OK, I can understand you think our continuing with this thread over and over serves no valid purpose, but there is continuous flow of feedback and response so surely there is a need to keep the thread going.

There are myriad types of posters on a2k sites and the many threads we see merely means some will not live up to our expectations of how posters will respond; as Firefly stated if any of these threads disappoint you or the behavior of posters are not to your liking, you must bear in mind these are adults and do not need reminding as to how to behave. I, personally, believe you mean well, but I don't think people should stop posting their grievances against Zimmerman because you feel we're overdoing it.

I think you're a very sensitive individual and one of the reasons I admire you. Please don't be too displeased with my response.

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@Moment-in-Time,

Ok, I'm tired of the therapy. Not re the new posters, but re the pumpers of forevermore.

If Frank argues with you 78 times, do you get a pizza?

Stick around, you'll remember my whining.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

we could all get disagreement one way or another, but he was wanting to bomb italians.

Your complete lack of morals and ethics makes you unable to comprehend why someone who does have morals and ethics would be quite angry over the atrocity that Italy committed.

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@Moment-in-Time,

Moment-in-Time wrote:

The Zimmerman case is an unresolved one in the minds of many Americans with a significant number believing justice has not been served.

The evidence is quite clear that Trayvon was violently assaulting Mr. Zimmerman, making this a clear-cut case of self defense.

There is also good reason to believe that Trayvon was about to take PCP and then go breaking into neighborhood homes. The neighborhood is quite lucky that Trayvon decided to violently assault an armed man before embarking on his latest crime spree.

Moment-in-Time wrote:

I, personally, believe you mean well, but I don't think people should stop posting their grievances against Zimmerman because you feel we're overdoing it.

You don't have any grievances against Mr. Zimmerman. You just get pleasure out of harming innocent people.

Moment-in-Time wrote:

I think you're a very sensitive individual and one of the reasons I admire you. Please don't be too displeased with my response.

Monsters who support brutal atrocities are hardly sensitive.

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Oralloy ranted at me many years ago. It was probably on some thread about bombs, as I don't like them. I have good reasons for that, findable on a2k.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

Oralloy ranted at me many years ago.

"Pointing out that you were spewing idiotic nonsense" was hardly "ranting".

ossobuco wrote:

Oralloy ranted at me many years ago. It was probably on some thread about bombs, as I don't like them.

It was one of the threads questioning the morality of dropping the A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

You were spewing nonsense about the internal workings of A-bombs that was, to put it mildly, absolute gibberish.

When I pointed out that your babbling was nothing but gibberish, you countered that your father had been part of the A-bomb testing program.

You didn't like it very much when I observed that that did not confer any sort of competence on you.

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@oralloy,

Where as everything you spout is absolute fact? You lie through your teeth on almost every post.

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@oralloy,

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The evidence is quite clear that Trayvon was violently assaulting Mr. Zimmerman, making this a clear-cut case of self defense...

There is really no evidence that Trayvon "was violently assaulting" Zimmerman. At most, he punched him once in the nose, very possibly defensively.
Zimmerman had no serious injuries, according to his own doctor's testimony. He didn't even require a Band-Aid or medical treatment immediately after the shooting, nor did he require any medical treatment at any later time for his very minor injuries.
The blood from his nose looked dramatic, but, when it was wiped off, his nose looked fine. He had two tiny scapes on the back of his head, and dried blood streaks from those, but no no swellings, goose eggs, black and blue marks, etc.--nothing at all to indicate an alleged head pounding. He had no bruises anywhere else on his body. There is no evidence of a violent assault.

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/opinionzone/files/2012/05/zimmermanrotate.jpg

This was far from a "clear-cut case of self defense"--that's why the verdict is so controversial. And, when one of the jurors says, "George Zimmerman got away with murder," it wasn't all that clear to the jury...and still isn't.

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There is also good reason to believe that Trayvon was about to take PCP and then go breaking into neighborhood homes. The neighborhood is quite lucky that Trayvon decided to violently assault an armed man before embarking on his latest crime spree.

There is no reason under the sun to believe that at all. Osso was right when she said you're nutso.

Try to touch base with reality, oralloy.

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