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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
BillRM
 
  2  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 06:13 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I often wonder why Trayvon is given a pass by so many for assaulting Zimmerman with the intend of killing or doing great harm to him.

Is it because Trayon is black and therefore being killed by a "non-black" must therefore be a victim of a racial motivated killing?

That Zimmerman dare to used an evil gun to defend himself?

That Trayvon look innocent and harmless in the smiling picture taken when he was 12 or 13 not a picture taken anywhere near his age at death?

Likely to be all the above in my opinion aided by a news media that love evil man bit dog stories instead of dog bit man stories and racial rabble rousers such as Sharpton.

If Zimmerman had been unarmed and Trayvon had therefore been able to killed him the whole thing would only had been a small local story.
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oralloy
 
  3  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 07:55 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
What saved Zimmy was his most RESOUNDING personal innocence,
in his self defense. Zimmy won because there was never any liability against him.

Totally untrue.

Feel free to share some of the supposed evidence against Mr. Zimmerman.


MontereyJack wrote:
What saved Zimmerman was the fact that he killed the innocent person who would have convicted him.

There was nothing even remotely innocent about Trayvon. And if Trayvon had survived, the only person who would have been convicted is Trayvon.
OmSigDAVID
 
  3  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 08:17 am
@oralloy,
That naborhood is a safer place,
without Travon in it.

Thay shud put up a monument to Zimmy.





David
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 10:37 am
ANYBODY WHO LISTENS TO ANY OF THIS NONSENSE ABOUT TRAYVON MARTIN BEING THE PROBLEM AND GEORGE ZIMMERMAN BEING THE SAFETY FUNCTION...IS BATTY.

ANYONE WHO WRITES IT...DOESN'T GET QUITE THAT HIGH.
BillRM
 
  2  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 11:21 am
@Frank Apisa,
Yes Frank and may you some day find yourself under some 17 year old hoodlum who is trying to pound what little brain cells is in your brain out on the sidewalk.
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 11:36 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Yes Frank and may you some day find yourself under some 17 year old hoodlum who is trying to pound what little brain cells is in your brain out on the sidewalk.


With a sentence structured like that one, Bill...you should be ashamed of yourself by calling anyone else's intelligence to question.

Anyway...I hope that wishing I someday get mauled made you happy. I always want you to be happy.
edgarblythe
 
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Thu 7 Nov, 2013 12:15 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Jesus Christ. Is that idiot still repeating the same post after all these months? I don't know how you find enough ways to point out how stupid he is.
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 12:20 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

Jesus Christ. Is that idiot still repeating the same post after all these months? I don't know how you find enough ways to point out how stupid he is.


Bill is amazing with his persistence in absurdity, Edgar.

But, people like Bill and David have to make Trayvon Martin the villain...and George Zimmerman the person being put upon. It makes them feel better about themselves...despite the fact that the argument is so absurd even a school child could see through it.
BillRM
 
  3  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 01:03 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
Jesus Christ. Is that idiot still repeating the same post after all these months? I don't know how you find enough ways to point out how stupid he is.


Yes we should just pretend that the attacker was not Trayvon and that a jury found Zimmerman acted in legal self defense.
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firefly
 
  1  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 01:41 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
ANYBODY WHO LISTENS TO ANY OF THIS NONSENSE ABOUT TRAYVON MARTIN BEING THE PROBLEM AND GEORGE ZIMMERMAN BEING THE SAFETY FUNCTION...IS BATTY.

ANYONE WHO WRITES IT...DOESN'T GET QUITE THAT HIGH.

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One also has to wonder why they have such a compelling need to keep promoting this crap, beside their own love of guns and their reflexive need to defend a shooter.

The trial is long over and nothing these yo-yos say will change anyone's personal perception regarding Zimmerman's character or moral innocence. Like O.J. and Casey Anthony, many will continue to see him as someone who got away with murder. And that view is not without some validity, something these mindless "supporters" cannot acknowledge at all.

And, most tellingly, these "supporters" cannot focus on Zimmerman's behavior since his acquittal, particularly his behavior that has involved run-ins with the police.

Zimmerman's behavior since his acquittal is totally at odds with a picture of a responsible law-abiding citizen.

He's been stopped by the police 3 times--twice for speeding and once for driving with his license tags intentionally obscured. These are not the actions of someone concerned with public safety, or making sure that laws are abided by.

The police were called to his home, in response to a 911 call, because he showed up there when he had agreed not to, and his wife alleged he had hit her father in the face, and he was making menacing gestures toward what appeared to be a concealed gun, and she feared what he might do next. A video taken by someone else at the house shows Zimmerman destroying the iphone on which his wife says she had captured the images of what he had been doing--police are still trying to have the phone repaired and they are still considering charging him with destruction of evidence. Photos taken of Shellie Zimmerman's father, after the police arrived, do show an injury on his nose.

Zimmerman had provoked the entire encounter at the home by appearing there after he had agreed not to be there. Just as he provoked the entire encounter with Trayvon Martin by stalking him in the dark, something he shouldn't have done either. He has a consistent pattern of behaving recklessly in a way that provokes aggressive confrontations with others, and that was true even before the incident with Martin.

The latest report that he placed a bullet-ridden target on the wall of his home, where his wife would find it after returning from New York, where she had given interviews about her fears of what he might do to her, is very unsettling, particularly in light of what followed with her 911 call, because it is yet another example of his provocation, and his need to intimidate and control, and his use of violence, or threats of violence, to achieve that aim.

Why aren't these "supporters" concerned about Shellie Zimmerman's welfare or safety from this man? He shot and killed the last person he claimed "threatened" him, and now his wife is "threatening" him, and his reputation, by her comments regarding her own fears of him and what he might be capable of, and his reaction is to provoke the situation even more, and to try to control her by reminding her of his gun, and its power. That's also what he did at the home the day she called the police.

Wives are in the most danger when they try to leave abusive and controlling spouses--that is when they are more likely to be killed. And Zimmerman's actions toward his wife are very troubling and should be cause for concern, particularly because he's the one who can't keep away from her--he was not supposed to be at the house the day she arrived to remove her belongings.

And, let's not forget that Shellie Zimmerman walked out on George the day before he killed Trayvon Martin, and we don't know whether that event intensified both his anger and his need to control when he spotted that innocent teen the following night, a kid who was minding his own business and just talking on his cell phone.

It's time the "supporters" stopped re-hashing their own, highly selective, view of the criminal murder case, along with their vilification of Trayvon Martin, and moved on to consider his actions since the trial ended. There are too many indications that Zimmerman poses a possible threat to others, particularly to his wife. And, given the rather bleak outlook for his own future, and ability to earn a living, it is not difficult to imagine a possible murder/suicide where he would end both their lives.

What's past is past, the important matter now should be to try to prevent future tragedies he might cause, based on the red flags we can already see, if that's at all possible. His "supporters" should take a look at those red flags--they're waving very clearly.

Moment-in-Time
 
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Thu 7 Nov, 2013 02:44 pm
@firefly,
Excerpt from your article:

Quote:

What's past is past, the important matter now should be to try to prevent future tragedies he might cause, based on the red flags we can already see, if that's at all possible. His "supporters" should take a look at those red flags--they're waving very clearly.


I agree; the unstable George Zimmerman is a walking time bomb.
Baldimo
 
  4  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 03:14 pm
@firefly,
This line cracks me up and disregards reality:
Quote:
He shot and killed the last person he claimed "threatened" him,


Zimmerman wasn't threatened, he was attacked. Evidence proves that he was attacked and not threatened. Jeez you guys, you want the supporters of Zimmerman to see the other side, but you guys refuse just as much as the other side does to see all of the facts. Most of you made up your minds the minute the edited 911 calls were published.
OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 03:14 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:

Excerpt from your article:

Quote:

What's past is past, the important matter now should be to try to prevent future tragedies he might cause, based on the red flags we can already see, if that's at all possible. His "supporters" should take a look at those red flags--they're waving very clearly.


I agree; the unstable George Zimmerman is a walking time bomb.
So, I guess that means that Zimmy will stalk MORE burglars in Florida
and he 'll interfere with their work and get them mad so that thay also
will attack him like Travon did and he will lawfully kill those criminals; is that the danger??

Is that an O.S.H.A. violation qua on-the-job safety for burglars???
Zimmy might develop the most effective naborhood watch in America.
Zimmy can fotograf their faces (see how thay like THAT)
and take pictures of the license plates on their cars,
but he better keep a hand on his weapon.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
  3  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 03:27 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
ANYBODY WHO LISTENS TO ANY OF THIS NONSENSE ABOUT TRAYVON MARTIN BEING THE PROBLEM AND GEORGE ZIMMERMAN BEING THE SAFETY FUNCTION...IS BATTY.

ANYONE WHO WRITES IT...DOESN'T GET QUITE THAT HIGH.
That 's just foolishness, big CAPS and all.
U can 't re-write history, Frank; yes, u can 't.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
  3  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 03:32 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
. . . given the rather bleak outlook for his own future,
and ability to earn a living, it is not difficult to imagine a possible
murder/suicide where he would end both their lives.

What's past is past, the important matter now should be to try to prevent
future tragedies he might cause, based on the red flags we can already see,
if that's at all possible. His "supporters" should take a look at those red
flags--they're waving very clearly.
WHAT do u propose, Firefly??

What do u want to be DONE, in furtherance of your filosofy??





David
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firefly
 
  1  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 03:44 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote:
Zimmerman wasn't threatened,...

Zimmerman contended he did feel threatened, that he feared for his life, and that's why he shot Martin. You're the one disregarding reality.

And, right now, Zimmerman is the one acting in a threatening manner toward his wife.

The 911 call that should concern everyone now is the one his wife made to the police about him and the threatening behavior he was displaying toward her and her father.

Deal with the present, and the type of behavior Zimmerman has displayed since his acquittal--3 traffic stops for unlawful behaviors, and actions on his part that necessitated a 911 call to the police because of his provocative and menacing and aggressive behaviors, and his attempt to destroy the evidence of such behaviors, after he forced a confrontation by showing up at a place he had agreed he would not be at.

The criminal murder case is over. Look at the way Zimmerman's been acting since it ended, including his continued propensity for provoking threatening and aggressive encounters, and what that says about him.

There is every reason to believe that Shellie Zimmerman is not safe from this man, given the way he has been acting. A tragic murder/suicide committed by George Zimmerman is not beyond the realm of possibility in this situation.

Where is any concern for her well being or safety from him?



RABEL222
 
  0  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 03:50 pm
@firefly,
I'll give George credit for one thing. He figured out a method for the perfect murder. Make sure their arnt any witnesses in vision range who can testify positively and kill the only other witness.
OmSigDAVID
 
  3  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 03:54 pm
@Frank Apisa,
edgarblythe wrote:
Jesus Christ. Is that idiot still repeating the same post after all these months? I don't know how you find enough ways to point out how stupid he is.
Frank Apisa wrote:
Bill is amazing with his persistence in absurdity, Edgar.

But, people like Bill and David have to make Trayvon Martin the villain...and George Zimmerman the person being put upon. It makes them feel better about themselves...despite the fact that the argument is so absurd even a school child could see through it.
Let 's remember and let 's keep things in proper perspective:
YOU are the malconted losers.
Bill, Zimmy and myself are the vindicated WINNERS.
The verdict disproved and discredited the merit of your foolish allegations.

I hope that ALL future violent criminals like travon meet the same end.

U can continue to root for the bad guy, Frank.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
  3  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 03:56 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
But, people like Bill and David have to make Trayvon Martin the villain...
and George Zimmerman the person being put upon.
I don 't have to; its just FUN.





David
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Thu 7 Nov, 2013 03:57 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
ANYBODY WHO LISTENS TO ANY OF THIS NONSENSE ABOUT TRAYVON MARTIN BEING THE PROBLEM AND GEORGE ZIMMERMAN BEING THE SAFETY FUNCTION...IS BATTY.

ANYONE WHO WRITES IT...DOESN'T GET QUITE THAT HIGH.
That 's just foolishness, big CAPS and all.
U can 't re-write history, Frank; yes, u can 't.

David


Not trying to rewrite history, David...I am commenting on some opinions being expressed that I consider being absolute blather.
 

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