The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@hawkeye10,

You certainly are.

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Well, I think George is about to have another encounter with the police...

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George Zimmerman
Wife's Mom Files Police Report
He Stole My Stuff!

George Zimmerman has a new set of legal woes -- his mother-in-law just filed a police report, claiming George stole furniture and a TV from her house.

Shellie Zimmerman's mom owns the house where George and Shellie were living before they split. The mom claims George was ordered to vacate no later than yesterday ... and apparently when he did her stuff went missing.

The house was also the scene of the gun incident earlier this month, where Shellie called 911 and claimed George was threatening her with a gun.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/27/george-zimmerman-mother-in-law-theft-police-report-divorce/#ixzz2gFWnMqSO

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

I dont get being offended that G went on a victory tour, the state came after him illegally, using its vast resources in gunning for him, and he was able to convince 6 women to not be party to the scheme....if one does not take a victory lap then, when would you??

Your point is well taken.
He shud demand an apology from the Republican governor
who sic-ed them on him.

David

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South Carolina Man Gets Off Thanks To ‘Stand Your Ground’ After Shooting And Killing Innocent Bystander

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On Wednesday, a South Carolina judge granted immunity from prosecution to a man who shot and killed an innocent bystander during a botched confrontation with a group of teenagers. The judge relied on the state’s ‘Stand Your Ground’ law.

Seventeen-year-old Darrell Niles was in his car, minding his own business back in 2010 when 33-year-old Shannon Anthony Scott shot and killed him.

Earlier that day, a group of girls had followed and threatened Scott’s 15-year-old daughter. They later drove past Scott’s house in an SUV. But when Scott walked out of his house with a handgun to confront the “women thugs,” as he described them, he instead fired straight into the 1992 Honda of Darrell Niles, who was unarmed. Niles was killed instantly.

Some questions remain in the case: The group of girls may have fired shots first, but testimony is conflicted on if shots were fired at Scott himself, or at all. There is also some indication that Scott was primed to shoot his gun at someone: Even prior to the shooting, he had a sign in his window that read, “Fight Crime – Shoot First,” according to a 5th Circuit Assistant Solicitor.

Despite the defense’s evidence that Scott had no proof the young man was an “imminent threat,” Scott’s attorney — who, oddly enough, is state Rep. Todd Rutherford (D-SC) — argued that if Scott hadn’t shot Niles, he would have had to go back to his home and “hope that the cavalry (police) are going to come.”

“All that matters is that Mr. Scott felt his life was in jeopardy,” Rutherford said.

On Wednesday, Circuit Judge Maite Murphy accepted those arguments and ruled that Scott believed he was aiming for the group that had threatened his daughter, and therefore was protected under South Carolina’s 2006 Stand Your Ground law.

Darrell Niles’s mother was devastated by the order. “It’s not right; it’s not right,” she told a local TV station, saying she fears her son will be vilified in death and seen as one of those threatening Scott’s daughter. “The truth needs to be out there.”

The order has been appealed by Fifth Circuit Solicitor Dan Johnson.

I'm a little confused why the case took so long to be heard in the stand your ground hearing (or whatever it is called.)

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@firefly,

I wonder what his excuse will be this time?

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@revelette,

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I wonder what his excuse will be this time?

You mean if one of the thousands that had issue deaths threats against Zimmerman try to carry them out?

You do not get a limit of the numbers of times you have a right to exercise self defense when someone is trying to killed you.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

You do not get a limit of the numbers of times you have a right to exercise self defense when someone is trying to killed you.

Above quoted newspaper report wrote:

Seventeen-year-old Darrell Niles was in his car, minding his own business back in 2010 when 33-year-old Shannon Anthony Scott shot and killed him.

So he actually could/should have murdered killed in self defence a couple or dozens more.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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So he actually could/should have murdered killed in self defence a couple or dozens more.

This thread is about Zimmerman not anyone else.

If people would care to address issues of others using the right of self defense rightly or wrongly I would suggest starting another thread.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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I wonder what his excuse will be this time?

You mean if one of the thousands that had issue deaths threats against Zimmerman try to carry them out?

You do not get a limit of the number of times
you have a right to exercise self defense when someone is trying to kill you.

There was a lawyer, a pundit, who offered the hypothesis
that Zimmy might become a legal serial-killer,
if a lot of blacks try to kill him (seriatim), in execution of their threats.
Accordingly, there might be MANY homicide trials for Zimmy.

David

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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So he actually could/should have murdered killed in self defence a couple or dozens more.

This thread is about Zimmerman not anyone else.

If people would care to address issues of others using the right of self defense
rightly or wrongly I would suggest starting another thread.

It shud be as much fun
as this one has been!

David

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George Zimmerman Left Wife, Shellie, Bullet-Riddled Target As Threat: Report
10/31/2013

The estranged wife of George Zimmerman says he nailed a bullet-filled target to the wall of her home as a "subliminal message."

Shellie Zimmerman, 26, filed for divorce in September, less than two months after George Zimmerman was found not guilty of second-degree murder after he shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in 2012.

Days later, Shellie Zimmerman called 911, stating that her husband was threatening her and her father with a gun, and that he punched her father in the nose.

She later stated that she never actually saw a gun, and decided not to press charges.

Wednesday, Radar Online obtained a photo of the bullet-riddled target that Shellie Zimmerman claims George left in their living room in late September, shortly after she asked him to get his things and move out.

“At the time, Shellie was in New York, appearing on the 'Today' show," a source told Radar Online. The source says that when Shellie returned to Lake Mary, Fla., "she went over to the house and discovered the target with bullet holes in various quadrants."

Shellie reportedly sent the photo to her lawyer, stating, "Look at the subliminal message George sent me." As another source pointed out to Radar Online, "It’s really not that subliminal. A not-so subtle message, I think. It was clearly a threat.”

Shellie Zimmerman's lawyer would not comment on the target when Radar Online contacted him.

"This person that I'm married to that I'm divorcing, I've kind of realized now that I don't know him," Zimmerman told Matt Lauer on the 'Today' show. "And I really don't know what he's capable of."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/george-zimmerman-target-bullet-wife-shelli_n_4181669.html

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@firefly,

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Wednesday, Radar Online obtained a photo of the bullet-riddled target that Shellie Zimmerman claims George left in their living room in late September, shortly after she asked him to get his things and move out.

Not hard at all to get your hands on a bullet riddle target in a home of a target shooter and then claiming it is some kind of a threat.

My mother in fact hung one such target on a kitchen wall when I was growing up, showing the day she shame my father by way out shooting him with a bullseye and in front of his hunting/target shooting club yet.

My father was a great sport about it even if he never did go back to that club. LOL

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@BillRM,

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My mother in fact hung one such target on a kitchen wall when I was growing up, showing the day she shame my father by way out shooting him with a bullseye and in front of his hunting/target shooting club yet.

Perhaps your deeply ingrained mistrust of women, and your often expressed hostility toward them, stems from having a mother who enjoyed shaming men, and reminding them, and her male off-spring, of her ability to humiliate them.

Just as your mother was sending a message when she hung that target up, Zimmerman was doing the same to his wife, although his message was far more menacing. And he continued to menace Shellie the day she called 911 in fear of what he might do.

Zimmerman tries to control through fear and intimidation. We know he menaced Trayvon Martin by following the teen and failing to identify himself because Martin reported feeling apprehensive to Rachel Jeantel. Based on Zimmerman's pattern, it is logical to surmise that, once he finally confronted Martin, he acted in a manner which was sufficiently threatening that Martin feared for his life and reacted defensively. That's exactly what he did that caused Shellie to call 911 in fear of what he might do--that was her defensive reaction. But Shellie wasn't a child, alone in the dark and suddenly confronted by a menacing stranger, with little other than his fists to defend himself. She had others around to both witness and try to protect her, when Zimmerman made menacing gestures indicating he had a gun, and she was able to call 911.

Zimmerman has a history of abusing others, he has already killed once, and there is valid reason for Shellie to fear what he might be capable of doing to her. She does know him better than anyone else does.

Let's hope Zimmerman doesn't try to silence Shellie the way he silenced Trayvon Martin.

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Sorry dear I am only allowed myself to read a few of your postings a week at most as your stupidity tend to raised my blood pressure to dangerous level.

An after reading your posting concerning Zimmerman wife trying to get back at him for trading her in for a far better model have gone a long way to that limit.

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@BillRM,

You just can't face the truth about Zimmerman, can you?

Not just his wife, his lawyer wants nothing more to do with him, and the Chief of Police in Lake Mary, Florida has said he considers Zimmerman a potential threat to public safety.

Zimmerman's wife isn't trying to get back at him, she's wisely trying to get away from him. And she's doing everyone a favor by revealing what he's really like.

But you always see women as lying, and conniving, and trying to harm men and/or get back at them. Thanks for that tidbit of info about your mother and that target, that helps to explain a lot about your attitudes toward women.

It makes absolutely no difference to me whether you read my posts or not. You can't understand most of them anyway. Laughing

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

You just can't face the truth about Zimmerman, can you?

Not just his wife, his lawyer wants nothing more to do with him,

I 'd not want anything to do with that lawyer,
based on his TV performance, near throwing away his client's case in court.
There were obvious and POWERFUL exculpatory arguments
that he cud have and shud have made, but he wasted and ignored.

What saved Zimmy was his most RESOUNDING personal innocence,
in his self defense. Zimmy won because there was never any liability against him.

firefly wrote:

and the Chief of Police in Lake Mary, Florida
has said he considers Zimmerman a potential threat to public safety.

Yeah, the same as all other LIVING human beings.
Does HIS opinion actually COUNT for something, Firefly?? Please explain.

firefly wrote:

Zimmerman's wife isn't trying to get back at him,

Will u enrich us with the source of your knowledge on that point????
HOW did u discover her emotions and her motives????
Did u employ telepathy to discern this information ???
or maybe a crystal ball?? taro cards?? necromancy?

Please tell us. We await.

firefly wrote:

she's wisely trying to get away from him.
And she's doing everyone a favor by revealing what he's really like.

I don t feel the slightest bit safer
for her efforts, Firefly.
If I ran into Zimmy, I 'd feel better than safe
in having dinner with him in a good restaurant.
We coud discuss the relative effectiveness of defensive handguns.
I 'd advise him to upgrade from a little 9mm automatic; unreliable.
He shud carry something RESPECTABLE, e.g., a .44 revolver.
Thay work!

By the way: did u ever find the time to look at the linked
lecture of Law Professor Duane, as u said that u wud??
How long has it been by now?????

David

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What saved Zimmy was his most RESOUNDING personal innocence,
in his self defense. Zimmy won because there was never any liability against him.

Totally untrue. What saved Zimmerman was the fact that he killed the innocent person who would have convicted him. As the jurors said, after listening to the entire case, they felt Zimmerman was getting away with murder because it couldn't be proved beyond a reasonable doubt since he'd lilled Trayvon. but they definitely did not believe in his "RESOUNDING personal innocence". That's your fantasy, David.

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@MontereyJack,

DAVID wrote:

What saved Zimmy was his most RESOUNDING personal innocence,
in his self defense. Zimmy won because there was never any liability against him.

MontereyJack wrote:

Totally untrue. What saved Zimmerman was the fact that he killed the innocent person

The one that was trying to murder him
by beating his head against the street for NO REASON ?

MontereyJack wrote:

who would have convicted him.

"Convicted him" of WHAT???
"Convicted him" of defend ing himself from wonton attack??
"Convicted him" of calling the police on him and of following him
to see any burglary that he committed????

MontereyJack wrote:

As the jurors said, after listening to the entire case,

What thay said was their verdict: NOT GUILTY.
Nothing else counts. (Forgive me, but I suspect that u r intelligent enuf to KNOW that.)
Tell me if I 'm rong.

MontereyJack wrote:

they felt Zimmerman was getting away with murder
because it couldn't be proved beyond a reasonable doubt

That 's the whole point of ANY criminal trial.
Did u want to screw Zimmy into an inferior status
wherein he had to be lynched because that 's what liberals wanted????

It 'd be humorous if u or other liberals were attacked
as was Zimmy in this case and if YOU had to defend yourself from them.
THAT wud be good for a chuckle.
Discuss the merits of gun control with them.

David

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@MontereyJack,

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Totally untrue. What saved Zimmerman was the fact that he killed the innocent person who would have convicted him

You mean the 12/17 year old who was trying to pound his brain outs?

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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Totally untrue. What saved Zimmerman was the fact that he killed
the innocent person who would have convicted him

You mean the 12/17 year old who was trying to pound his brain outs?

Yeah, the one that jumped him for no reason.

David

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