The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

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Not sure what you are talking about here, Hawk.
you fucked up scary people who demonize ideas, reasonable rational people demonize actions only.

Really!

Is that another law that has been passed somewhere!

I've got news for you. Reasonable people often take issue with ideas...because ideas, Hawk, form the basis for actions. And the unreasonable, evil "ideas" being expressed by some of the people on your side of this particular issue...are a huge part of the reason there is so much hatred and distrust on this planet.

But go on thinking you are one of the "reasonable, rational people." There is an element of humor in supposing you actually think that to be so.

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@Frank Apisa,

One of Hawkeye's ideas was to sterilise 'retards,' if not do away with them all together. That's a leaf torn straight out of the 3rd Reich's book.

So much for being a Socialist, unless we're talking about National Socialism.

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@Frank Apisa,

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And the unreasonable, evil "ideas" being expressed by some of the people on your side of this particular issue...are a huge part of the reason there is so much hatred and distrust on this planet.

But "unreasonable" and "evil" in that is another example of you marking your own exam papers again.

The ideas here on this particular issue are merely localised and provincial examples of a natural distrust of people, from which hatred derives. People are untrustworthy. As a fact.

It is neither unreasonable nor evil to accept that fact and to act accordingly. And "evil" is a religious concept anyway.

There is so much hatred and distrust on this planet because it comes naturally to people in competition with each other either individually or in nationalistic groupings. I have seen bared teeth hatred and distrust in groups supposedly dedicated to socialism.

And the image of the cross stands as an exemplar of where love and trust gets a person.

Your ideas derive from the cloister and the ivory tower where thinking rules rather than from the real world where deeds rule. Thinking can afford to be idealistic because it can ignore certain important aspects of reality and it is attractive because it has plenty of room for the sort of grand gesture which is admired by saps and which is, of its essence, aggressive.

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@izzythepush,

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One of Hawkeye's ideas was to sterilise 'retards,'

Isn't all birth control a form of sterilisation?

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@spendius,

No, it's called family planning. You can't do that if you're sterilised.

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@izzythepush,

It is sterilisation. An artificial procedure designed to set aside another person's natural characteristics.

I have met ladies who will not hear of birth control for either party and with whom one might spend all afternoon in bed without the slightest chance of getting them pregnant. Birth control represents the hegemony of the male orgasm. That's why the Church is against it. It disempowers women. And it is why rape is such a heinous crime.

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@spendius,

On that we'll have to disagree.

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@izzythepush,

What do you disagree with izzy and on what grounds?

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@spendius,

I disagree with it not empowering women. It allows them to plan their careers. You may find this hard to believe, but I've run across quite a few women who like having sex, but don't necessarily want to get pregnant.

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@izzythepush,

I think you have missed the point izzy. Nothing stands in the way of women planning their careers in regard to rumpy-pumpy except male orgasm.

Those women who manipulate their careers using male orgasm after taking artificial measures to neutralise it are cheating and are taking advantage of those women who are too fastidious to engage in such activities.

One cannot claim to be a parachutist doing bungee jumps.

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@RABEL222,

RABEL222 wrote:

Sorry I disappointed you Frank. But I am tired of the strawman arguments by the gun nuts.

Are you scumbags still whining?

You are incapable of understanding what a straw man argument even is.

And anything that Frank Apisa has to say is just one more in an endless stream of made up lies.

RABEL222 wrote:

What they really mean when they claim Travon was a crook is he was black, but they dont have the balls to say so directly.

You are too stupid to speak for us intelligent people, if you don't mind.

When we say Trayvon was a crook, we refer to his proven history of burglary, his proven history of taking deranged drugs, the evidence that he was about to do both at once that very night, and the evidence that he was killed in the process of violently assaulting the neighborhood watch captain who had noticed his illegal activities.

RABEL222 wrote:

When they say St. George acted in self defense what they really mean is St. George was a white man with a gun and so was justified in killing a black teenager, but dont have the balls to say so directly.

If you don't want to be shot in self defense, don't go around violently assaulting people.

If that's too complicated for you to get, then best of luck to your victims in their efforts to defend themselves.

RABEL222 wrote:

Thanks to a screwed up justice system he got away with murder by killing the only other witness of this murder.

Nope. Self defense isn't murder.

I know you Freedom Haters don't like that Americans have the right to defend ourselves, but we do.

RABEL222 wrote:

The gun nuts are never going to admit that St. George was in the wrong no matter how many facts all you guys throw at them because it would be tatamount to admitting that not everyone in the world should be able to carry a gun.

"You guys" are not throwing any facts at anyone.

The only thing Frank Apisa ever does is lie, lie again, and then lie some more. The fact that you Freedom Haters spew a bunch of lies does not mean that your lies are at all factual.

RABEL222 wrote:

The paranoids on this site have to have their guns no matter how many innocents have to die for their so called right to carry.

This at least gets down to the nub of the matter.

The only reason that you freaks keep whining about Mr. Zimmerman is because you hate our freedom.

You were hoping that your lies about Mr. Zimmerman would translate into a movement to violate our civil rights, and you are bitter that the NRA remains poised to defend us.

You might want to take note of the recent recalls in Colorado. The Democrats are going to be paying a heavy price come election day for the fact that they are opposed to basic human rights for Americans.

And the fact that Obama wasted all his political capital in a fruitless tantrum against the NRA means that he isn't going to achieve anything in his second term. After four years of a do-nothing presidency, the voters will be more than ready to switch which party controls the White House come 2016.

RABEL222 wrote:

They are not rational and you are fighting a losing cause if you think you will ever get them to admit they are wrong.

We are completely rational. We just aren't going to allow you Freedom Haters to violate our civil rights.

It was pretty low of you freaks to try to send an innocent person to prison just because you thought it might help you violate our rights.

RABEL222 wrote:

I am just sick of the bull shyt and really believe the world would be better off without them.

But in reality, it is freaks like you who would make the world a better place if you jumped into a wood chipper.

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@oralloy,

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When we say Trayvon was a crook, we refer to his proven history of burglary, his proven history of taking deranged drugs, the evidence that he was about to do both at once that very night, and the evidence that he was killed in the process of violently assaulting the neighborhood watch captain who had noticed his illegal activities.

That's all fantasy on your part, oralloy--none of it is "proven", none of what you cite as "evidence" ever existed.

And none of that was part of Zimmerman's trial...

You've left reality, oralloy, and you're back in...

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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And the unreasonable, evil "ideas" being expressed by some of the people on your side of this particular issue...are a huge part of the reason there is so much hatred and distrust on this planet.

But "unreasonable" and "evil" in that is another example of you marking your own exam papers again.

The ideas here on this particular issue are merely localised and provincial examples of a natural distrust of people, from which hatred derives. People are untrustworthy. As a fact.

It is neither unreasonable nor evil to accept that fact and to act accordingly. And "evil" is a religious concept anyway.

There is so much hatred and distrust on this planet because it comes naturally to people in competition with each other either individually or in nationalistic groupings. I have seen bared teeth hatred and distrust in groups supposedly dedicated to socialism.

And the image of the cross stands as an exemplar of where love and trust gets a person.

Your ideas derive from the cloister and the ivory tower where thinking rules rather than from the real world where deeds rule. Thinking can afford to be idealistic because it can ignore certain important aspects of reality and it is attractive because it has plenty of room for the sort of grand gesture which is admired by saps and which is, of its essence, aggressive.

Your drivel is becoming more and more laughable.

Thank you for entertaining me.

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@oralloy,

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And anything that Frank Apisa has to say is just one more in an endless stream of made up lies.

You...the ultimate liar...calling someone else a liar.

What a laugh. Drunk

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@Frank Apisa,

Shirlee " I'm not sure what he is capable of"...

So, I've read that perhaps he was the instigator in everything she did, that she got caught with, thank you for bringing that to my attention...

So she knows he's manipulative, a bully, controlling, capable of killing someone, a wanna be cop.

I wonder if his Father told him he was a "Judge" when really he was a Justice of Peace and maybe if his Father is a liar a wanna be, a controlling person, then Zimmerman wanted to compete and be better than his Father.

I wonder if Shirlee wants him behind bars, maybe he hit her a few times, maybe he was too demanding, controlling...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023325951
George Zimmerman’s father is Robert Zimmerman. Robert Zimmerman gave a statement to the ‘Orlando Sentinel’ defending his son’s role in the shooting death of teenager Trayvon Martin.

We then contacted the Virginia Supreme Court to confirm Robert Zimmerman’s employment.

Kristi Wright with the Department of Legislative and Public Relations wrote us this email in response:

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“Robert J. Zimmerman served as a full-time magistrate from 2000-2006. Please be advised that in Virginia magistrates are judicial officers, but they are not considered "judges" and do not possess trial jurisdiction. More detailed information on the role of the magistrate in Virginia is available on Virginia's Judicial System Website .”

Z's daddy was roughly equal to a Justice of the Peace in other states.

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@FOUND SOUL,

FOUND SOUL wrote:

Shirlee " I'm not sure what he is capable of"...

Isn't that a bit like making an accusation without making an accusation that might need some explanation?

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@roger,

Of course.

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@FOUND SOUL,

FOUND SOUL wrote:

Shirlee " I'm not sure what he is capable of"...

So, I've read that perhaps he was the instigator in everything she did, that she got caught with, thank you for bringing that to my attention...

So she knows he's manipulative, a bully, controlling, capable of killing someone, a wanna be cop.

I wonder if his Father told him he was a "Judge" when really he was a Justice of Peace and maybe if his Father is a liar a wanna be, a controlling person, then Zimmerman wanted to compete and be better than his Father.

I wonder if Shirlee wants him behind bars, maybe he hit her a few times, maybe he was too demanding, controlling...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023325951
George Zimmerman’s father is Robert Zimmerman. Robert Zimmerman gave a statement to the ‘Orlando Sentinel’ defending his son’s role in the shooting death of teenager Trayvon Martin.

We then contacted the Virginia Supreme Court to confirm Robert Zimmerman’s employment.

Kristi Wright with the Department of Legislative and Public Relations wrote us this email in response:

Quote:
“Robert J. Zimmerman served as a full-time magistrate from 2000-2006. Please be advised that in Virginia magistrates are judicial officers, but they are not considered "judges" and do not possess trial jurisdiction. More detailed information on the role of the magistrate in Virginia is available on Virginia's Judicial System Website .”

Z's daddy was roughly equal to a Justice of the Peace in other states.

Not sure why this was addressed to me, but if you explain, I will respond.

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Police kill unarmed man after car accident

An officer is charged with manslaughter in the shooting of an ex-athlete who may have been running to him for help. » Shot multiple times

Injured black man goes to white womans house for help. Paranoid woman calls cops and reports black man trying to break into her house. When cops arrive black man runs toward cops seeking help. Cop fears for his life because black man has hands so cop shoots him 4 or 5 times. Not to worry, this happened in Flordia so he can claim stand your ground law. Wonder how many more times this is going to happen? O K gun nuts. Start making excuses for more murders.

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@RABEL222,

A hypothetical excuse for another hypothetical?

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