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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 03:52 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
He may wind up in a psych hospital yet.
THAT cud be said of ANY of us.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 03:58 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
Well, wait until George kills himself or someone else...
Think of how HAPPY u 'd have been,
IF Zimmy had been un-armed, such that your boy travon
had SUCCEEDED in continuing to murder Zimmy
by beating his head on the street, until his brain fell out.
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BillRM
 
  0  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 06:38 am
Yes, we are going to get this man, in some manner, for daring to successfully defend himself with a gun from an attacked by a hoodlum that happen to be both young and black.

The next person who are similarly attacked will know that the price of defending him or herself is so high that it is more reasonable to not do so and just hope that after the attacked in over you are both alive and not cripple for life.
parados
 
  1  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 06:50 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

A father in law would not normally be cover but dream on. It is design to cover couples not in-laws.



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3) “Family or household member” means spouses, former spouses, persons related by blood or marriage, persons who are presently residing together as if a family or who have resided together in the past as if a family, and persons who are parents of a child in common regardless of whether they have been married. With the exception of persons who have a child in common, the family or household members must be currently residing or have in the past resided together in the same single dwelling unit.

Of course father in laws are related by marriage. Why do you think they are called 'in laws'?

BillRM
 
  0  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 07:20 am
@parados,
Live together as a family in a single family home ...............fool

An the law was never design to apply to extension family relationships.
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 07:46 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Quote:
I do not think that Zimmerman slug his father in law in the face however.

Is that just wishful thinking on your part?

His father-in-law did have a mark on his nose.

Quote:
and the domestic laws was written not to cover child abused or conflicts
between a man and his father in law but mainly partners violence.

The domestic violence laws cover incidents between family members.
That includes a man and his father-in-law. And, in the past, George
and Shellie Zimmerman had lived with her father--as a family.

As usual, you don't know what you are talking about.

This incident on Monday would come under domestic violence law.
The leftists in this forum want to DEMONIZE
Zimmy, calumniating him as much as possible.

No matter what he did (if anything) to his father-in-law 's nose,
nor what he will do to it in the future:
any citizen of Florida remains free to kill, lawfully in self defense.

The leftists hate that because thay want the Individual
to depend upon the COLLECTIVE, by its hireling government,
for the very existence of the Individual.

That is indicative of the fundamental point in philosophical dispute.
"Gun control" is not about guns; its about political control.
The motive of "gun control" is to subvert personal liberty,
in favor of greater power for the State.
Liberals, mentally and emotionally, favor authoritarianism
in a collectivist direction, along with Stalin, Mao n Hitler.
In the emotions of liberals, government supplants Mommy & Daddy
as absolute monarchs from the cradle to the grave
and we must owe our allegiance to them (Mom, Dad & Government) NOT
to self-reliance nor to Individualism nor to liberty.

The liberals yearn for an America that is different
than that of Francis Scott Key; thay reject him.
Liberals prefer that America be the "Land of the Docile"
and the Home of the Obedient" to government.

From that notion: I dissent.





David
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parados
 
  2  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 08:03 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Live together as a family in a single family home ...............fool

An the law was never design to apply to extension family relationships.



Let me remind you of your original statement Bill
Quote:
Zimmerman as far as I know is not having sex with his wife dad so any violence between them would not come under the domestic violence laws.


In light of the law, can you tell us where it requires he be having sex to qualify under the law? Who is the fool here Bill?

By the way, the house is owned by Zimmerman's father in law and Zimmerman may have been living with his father in law at some point which would qualify him under the law.
BillRM
 
  -1  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 08:07 am
@parados,
You are a fool as the law does not apply to Zimmerman father in law and that is the end of the matter for anyone with a brain cell working.

Adding you to my ignore list as you are not worth my time or anyone else time for that matter,
parados
 
  1  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 08:08 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Live together as a family in a single family home ...............fool

An the law was never design to apply to extension family relationships.



Just a reminder, you also said this Bill

Quote:
It would fall under the child abused laws not the domestic violence laws and I live unlike you in a world where laws cover what they was design to cover and the domestic laws was written not to cover child abused or conflicts between a man and his father in law but mainly partners violence.


Perhaps you should check who you are calling a fool.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 08:30 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Yes, we are going to get this man, in some manner, for daring to successfully defend himself with a gun
from an attacked by a hoodlum that happen to be both young and black. . . .
True, Bill but the main point
of the prosecution (persecution??) is Zimmy 's failure to be as black as his predator.
If he HAD been, then Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and obama 'd have left him alone.
and the Republican governor 'd not have sent a special persecutor to bedevil him.

Thay objected to Zimmy 's PARENTS, his genetic heritage.





David
BillRM
 
  -2  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 08:53 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Thay objected to Zimmy 's PARENTS, his genetic heritage.


Yes. from my understanding the poor man only have on grandparent who was black along with some native south american blood and that was not enough to keep sharpton and jackson away.

One wonder if he had married his black prom date and had have children of his own as dark as Trayvon that would have been helpful to the man or would the race baiters and the news media still have gone after him as a racist white man with a gun.
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firefly
 
  4  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 09:14 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
that is the end of the matter for anyone with a brain cell working...

That means it's not the end of the matter for you. Laughing

You're so brain dead, you'll keep repeating the same crap over, and over, and over...in an absolutely mindless way....

RABEL222
 
  1  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 02:13 pm
@firefly,
Come on!!! Leave Saint George alone. He will come to recognize the right thing to do and use that gun on the right person. Or one can hope.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 02:57 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

Come on!!! Leave Saint George alone. He will come to recognize the right thing to do and use that gun on the right person. Or one can hope.

what happened to the alleged liberal compassion, or is that only for the "right" people?
Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 03:11 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

RABEL222 wrote:

Come on!!! Leave Saint George alone. He will come to recognize the right thing to do and use that gun on the right person. Or one can hope.

what happened to the alleged liberal compassion, or is that only for the "right" people?


Chill, Hawk.


I think Rabel was having a bit of word fun...using irony. And I think you know it.

George Zimmerman provoked a confrontation with a young man needlessly...and that confrontation led to the terrible, unnecessary death of the young man.

George Zimmerman deserves the misery he has caused for himself...but I am not hoping for his death at the hands of someone seeking "justice"...or at his own hand. I hope Rabel isn't either.

I also am not looking for bad to come to the people who are defending Zimmerman at the expense of villifying the young dead man...although I hope they finally come to their senses and suffer the guilt they ought to feel for what they are doing here.
Moment-in-Time
 
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Fri 13 Sep, 2013 03:32 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:

Come on!!! Leave Saint George alone. He will come to recognize the right thing to do and use that gun on the right person. Or one can hope.


Uh-uh! With respect to "Saint George" well, it's safe to say he's who he is...no more and no less. He is obviously a violent unrestrained, individual, given to impulsive rages; "Saint George" should never have been licensed to carry a firearm. With some mentally challenged individuals, the weapon gives them a sense of energized defiance and determination. "Saint" Zimmerman strikes one as being borderline unbalanced.
FOUND SOUL
 
  1  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 04:44 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Saint George and Mother Shellie are quite frankly as bad as each other. He, in my eyes, is a loose cannon, a compulsive lier and a thief. She, is a thief and a compulsive lier, they should stay together.

In my opinion after reading below as well as the thousands of dollars she transferred back and forth, personal bills she paid that people helped raise for his Court Case, clearly shows that she decided to call 911 deliberately. A motive, but he has something on her and that is why it's dropped. By them in any event, not necessarily from the law.

Quote:
Shellie Zimmerman at some point hit her husband with her iPad, George Zimmerman told investigators.

Police officers asked George Zimmerman to remove his shirt so they could see if there were marks on his back. "There were no signs of trauma, redness or marks of any kind in the area where he said he was struck," the report said.
BillRM
 
  -2  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 04:52 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Quote:
He is obviously a violent unrestrained,


Yes .if you try to beat him to death he will defend himself even if he need to do so against a person in a PC protected group.
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BillRM
 
  -1  
Fri 13 Sep, 2013 04:53 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
Saint George and Mother Shellie are quite frankly as bad as each other. He, in my eyes, is a loose cannon, a compulsive lier and a thief. She, is a thief and a compulsive lier, they should stay together.


Neither of them ever try to beat a man to death for annoying them however.

Oh did they ever find her holding a large amount of women jewelry that did not belong to her?
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Fri 13 Sep, 2013 05:09 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

You probably grew up with angels, but the fact of the matter is, most children experiment with **** that will blow your mind. Even presidents have experimented with drugs and alcohol. Some even became regents of universities and well known scientists.


Gotta agree with you on your statement, CI. Bill Clinton said he "tried marijuana but did not inhale." Now if you believe that tall tale I have the Brooklyn Bridge for sale, quite cheap! The current president, Barack Obama, admitted to experimenting with marijuana and admitted to inhaling, saying afterwards, "inhaling was the point"!

During my Freshman year I tried weed, cocaine at a campus party; there was a marijuana cig passed around laced with heroin. My family's upbringing was so instilled in me that that was the last time I touched cocaine and heroin. I have had marijuana at parties on and off....my stimulant is wine/sherry.

Some states are legalizing Marijuana instead of locking people up for possessing same. I suspect given time Marijuana will go the way of the ban on alcohol.
 

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