The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@revelette,

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And your post relates to this thread, how?

Beside the race baiters it was the anti-gun nuts who drove having the innocent victim of a deadly assault into being charge for the crime of daring to defense himself with a firearm.

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@Frank Apisa,

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A fifth grade teacher would have given it a "D."

That all you can do?

You are so lacking in means to defend your positions that you need to turn to amusing personal attacks?

I am beginning to feel sorry for you but then the real person we need to feel sorry is for Zimmerman and his family.

First a victim of a deadly attacked and then a victim of a awful misused of the criminal justice system and then a victim of death threats that the government still are refusing to do anything about.

We then need to read here the postings of the joy, of some here. to the pressure resulting in the break up of his marriage.

If a nut would end up killing either Zimmerman or a family member I am sure there will be happy postings concerning that event here also.

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@BillRM,

If you find personal attacks on you "amusing", I'll be happy to keep them up. Smile

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Mark O’Mara fires George Zimmerman
By Jonathan Capehart
September 10

Less than 24 hours after Mark O’Mara raced over to the Lake Mary, Fla., home where his client George Zimmerman was detained by cops after they were called by his estranged wife, the man who successfully defended the killer of Trayvon Martin against a second-degree murder charge called it quits.

“I am not representing George Zimmerman in his recent domestic altercation case or his impending divorce case,” O’Mara told CNN. He’ll still represent him in his defamation suit against NBC, though. Still, O’Mara must be thrilled to be done with his problematic former client.

Shellie Zimmerman’s 911 call yesterday after George “punched my dad in the nose” said it all.

[H]e’s in his car. And he continually has his hands on his gun and he keeps saying, “Step closer.” He’s just threatening all of us with his firearm — and he’s going to shoot us. … I’m really, really afraid. … I don’t know what he’s capable of. I’m really, really scared. … [Dad], get back inside; George might start shooting at us.

Yet, neither Shellie nor her father pressed charges. In fact, Lake Mary Police Chief Steve Bracknell said late yesterday that Shellie “changed her story and says she didn’t see a firearm.” In an ABC News report, Bracknell said, “We did not take a gun at all, because there was no reason to take a gun, because his gun was in his truck.” The story also noted that police said that Shellie “told them she never saw a gun but saw George Zimmerman’s hands near where she believed he would have had a weapon.”

But O’Mara’s interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper — where he tried to downplay what happened as “some pushing and touching. … Nobody was injured” — confirmed that Zimmerman did indeed have a gun.

Cooper: Did Zimmerman have a gun in the car?

O’Mara: He had a gun with him, yes. And he was allowed to. And I know there were some reports that he did not have a gun with him, he did.

Cooper later asked O’Mara if he was concerned that Zimmerman was armed given the stress he is under.

O’Mara: Well, he acted appropriately. He never took the weapon out. And the only thing he really did, which he told the police, was on the outside of his shirt, he made sure that the gun wasn’t moving anywhere and didn’t do anything because Mr. Dean [Shellie’s father] was sort of coming at him. That can sort of be seen in the video.

Cooper: So, he had the gun actually on his person not actually in the glove box of his car?

O’Mara: That’s correct.

Perhaps it was that bit of clean-up duty that was the last straw for O’Mara. Zimmerman has been in the spotlight four times since his July acquittal. There was the rescue of a family from an overturned SUV. There were the two speeding tickets. There was the tour of the headquarters for Kel-Tec, the makers of the gun Zimmerman used to shoot and kill Martin. And now comes yesterday’s “domestic altercation case,” which could still yield charges against him.

At the rate Zimmerman is going, he’ll once again need serious legal representation. By walking away from Zimmerman, O’Mara ensures he won’t be a part of drama to come.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/09/10/mark-omara-fires-george-zimmerman/

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@BillRM,

Number I am not an anti-gun nut nor a race baiter neither are most of the people on this forum. Second, I would have thought Zimmerman guilty had he stabbed him.

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@revelette,

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Second, I would have thought Zimmerman guilty had he stabbed him.

That nice however if it was not for the used of an evil gun and the false reporting that Zimmerman was white the likelihood of him being charge for a text book example of self defense approach zero.

It took weeks of heavy pressure from the race baiters and the anti gun nuts to get, the first and the correct decision not to charge him reverse.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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A fifth grade teacher would have given it a "D."

That all you can do?

You are so lacking in means to defend your positions that you need to turn to amusing personal attacks?

I am beginning to feel sorry for you but then the real person we need to feel sorry is for Zimmerman and his family.

First a victim of a deadly attacked and then a victim of a awful misused of the criminal justice system and then a victim of death threats that the government still are refusing to do anything about.

We then need to read here the postings of the joy, of some here. to the pressure resulting in the break up of his marriage.

If a nut would end up killing either Zimmerman or a family member I am sure there will be happy postings concerning that event here also.

What "position" should I be defending, Bill.

All I was pointing out is that you write like a not particularly gifted fifth grader.

Frankly, I think I am being generous.

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@Frank Apisa,

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What "position" should I be defending, Bill.

All I was pointing out is that you write like a not particularly gifted fifth grader.

Frankly, I think I am being generous.

LOL are you trying to beat out Firefly in being dishonest as somehow if I was taking your side on this thread I do not think that you would care about grammar or spelling or word composition of my postings.

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@BillRM,

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a text book example of self defense...

Does that usually involve profiling and stalking and menacing an innocent kid, who was just minding his own business, before you claim to be defending yourself from him?

Which text book is that example of self-defense found in?

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@BillRM,

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LOL are you trying to beat out Firefly in being dishonest as somehow if I was taking your side on this thread I do not think that you would care about grammar or spelling or word composition of my postings.

But you've put yourself forth as some kind of authority in rating academic abilities.

You've pronounced Trayvon Martin "not college material".

Well, Trayvon Martin was in an English sophomore honors class, and he got grades of A's and B's.

Judging by your posts, that's way beyond your level, BillRM.

It's only reasonable to point out how unqualified you are to make such appraisals of others.

Better send Zimmerman more money for his legal defense fund, BillRM. He's even less likely to be able to get a job after his antics on Monday, so he'll need your continued hand-outs to support himself, and now he's going to need to dig up a new lawyer. His first team of lawyers dumped him because they couldn't deal with his erratic impulsive behaviors, and now even O'Mara has had enough of him.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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What "position" should I be defending, Bill.

All I was pointing out is that you write like a not particularly gifted fifth grader.

Frankly, I think I am being generous.

LOL are you trying to beat out Firefly in being dishonest as somehow if I was taking your side on this thread I do not think that you would care about grammar or spelling or word composition of my postings.

You certainly are free to think or not think as you choose, Bill, but as I said, your composition is like the work of a not particularly gifted fifth grader. It wouldn't be any better if you were "on my side."

By the way...please...DO NOT COME OVER TO MY SIDE.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

By the way...please...DO NOT COME OVER TO MY SIDE.

I know exactly how you feel. I feel particularly nauseated about being broadly on the same side of the argument as BillRM on the Snowden thread.

It does our argument no good at all.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank you are living surrounded with wonderful devices that you have no understanding of, any more then a caveman and created by your betters such as myself.

Your ability to logically reason, as shown in this thread, is as weak as your understanding of the universe you are living in.

That is the reason you feel the need to try to discredit your betters instead of dealing on the level of logic and facts in this thread or any of the other threads for that matter.

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@BillRM,

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Frank you are living surrounded with wonderful devices that you have no understanding of, any more then a caveman and created by your betters such as myself.

Your ability to logically reason, as shown in this thread, is as weak as your understanding of the universe you are living in.

That is the reason you feel the need to try to discredit your betters instead of dealing on the level of logic and facts in this thread or any of the other threads for that matter.

I never try to discredit my "betters"...and there is no chance I would ever consider you to be my "better."

You are not a particularly bright individual...who apparently wants readers to suppose you are. You would better accomplish that, Bill, by not posting...than by posting about your brilliance in comments that sound as though they come from a not especially giften fifth grader.

And you really should stay away from giving advice on logic and facts. Your grasp of those things is tenuous at best.

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@Frank Apisa,

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And you really should stay away from giving advice on logic and facts. Your grasp of those things is tenuous at best.

Sorry I am not the one to leaved the subject of this thread and begin to mount a pointless personal attack.

An that is funny to me as my bet is that you could not explain how a flush toilet work only having been train to used it in early childhood.

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@Frank Apisa,

I find it fascinating that some people think they are "better" than others. It only proves how insecure they are. That's a symptom of a bigot.

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Bigotry and judgment are the height of insecurity.

Jasmine Guy

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@revelette,

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Number I am not an anti-gun nut nor a race baiter neither are most of the people on this forum. Second, I would have thought Zimmerman guilty had he stabbed him.

The Defense knew what he was doing when an almost white jury was selected. Most of us keep forgetting that we observe African Americans through the cultural prism of racism. We see black youth as "hoodlums" "drug users" "thieves" and when we see them in a neighborhood with a hoodie we assume they are up to no good. Now this does not imply to ALL whites but the general consensus among average American Caucasians is stereotypical. The press rarely display anything positive about AA youth except they come from one parent homes with many siblings each with a different father.

There was one Latino on the jury but chances are she would not have had the will power or strong enough moral strength to stand up for what she believed. Only after the trial did she say "Zimmerman got a way with murder."

Everyone observing this trial could not fail to see that "Zimmerman got away with murder." Just looking at him one can see a shady individual, and since his acquittal, we have gotten an ever better look at this *not-too* bright ill-tempered overstuffed individual. He has a past of threatening those close to him and the cops were called....transparently, he has an irascible disposition. He is so self-satisfied that he beat the Trayvon murder rap that he believes he can do anything he wants and cannot be touched! His wife and father-in-law should have pressed charges, because their failure to isolate this jackass will only make matters worse for them and others. Knowing who Zimmerman was, the cops did not even search his car for a gun....just goes to show how justice works in the USA. Out of all people to possess a gun, Zimmerman of all people, should be denied one.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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And you really should stay away from giving advice on logic and facts. Your grasp of those things is tenuous at best.

Sorry I am not the one to leaved the subject of this thread and begin to mount a pointless personal attack.

Poor little you!

Your entire contribution to this thread, Bill...has been a pointless personal attack on a dead young man.

Try to stay real.

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An that is funny to me as my bet is that you could not explain how a flush toilet work only having been train to used it in early childhood.

One of the many jobs I've had was working in construction...and I have installed dozens of toilets. During one manufacturing construction job at the Meadowlands...I installed (or assisted in installing) dozens just on that one job.

By the way...that last sentence of yours made me realize that I have been unfair to not-particularly-gifted fifth graders. From now on, make that not particularly gifted third graders.

You really are not very bright.

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@Moment-in-Time,

I've met lots of Americans, in the UK and abroad. And, like everyone else they're a mixed bag, except African Americans. I've yet to meet an African American I didn't like, generally they're a hell of a lot easier to talk to than other Americans.

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@Frank Apisa,

And as ci pointed out...this "betters" nonsense is absurd. It points to deficiencies in you.

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