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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Tue 10 Sep, 2013 02:24 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
Your "Zimmy" is lucky he didn't find himself arrested yesterday.
Aren't we ALL ?
OmSigDAVID
 
  3  
Tue 10 Sep, 2013 02:25 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Quote:
If u know how to do it,
its possible to kill someone with a hand strike to the nose.

And that shows the idiocy of your argument David.

You can't shoot until they hit you and then you could be dead.
There is no "idiocy" in that, Mr. Parados.





David
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hawkeye10
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 02:27 pm
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George Zimmerman’s friend John Donnelly says Shellie spotted George with Veronica Zuazo on the doorstep of their own home after they pulled up together in the same car:

“Shellie had her suspicions that George was having an affair with his ex-fiancée and that it flared up after the trial. She went as far as to issue the ultimatum, ‘Don’t you ever bring that woman into my house.’”

Shellie’s allegations of a George Zimmerman affair is apparently what caused the altercation yesterday. Now even George Zimmerman’s friends are feeling “hurt, angry and used.

http://www.inquisitr.com/943754/george-zimmerman-arrested-again-affair-shellie/

this would be the same Veronica Zuazo who once said that Zimmerman was mean to her....yet another reason for George to be not happy about the ex coming into his place without permission, maybe she was checking to see if the other woman was sleeping with George in her old place.

I note that the storyline that George is an abusive guy who no one wants to be around keeps on running into fact problems.
firefly
 
  1  
Tue 10 Sep, 2013 02:28 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Aren't we ALL ?

Were "we ALL" detained and investigated by the police yesterday? I wasn't.

He may be arrested yet. They are still looking at evidence.
hawkeye10
 
  2  
Tue 10 Sep, 2013 02:31 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Were "we ALL" detained and investigated by the police yesterday? I wasn't.


did you have a legally separated soon to be ex barge into your place yesterday?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 02:34 pm
@Frank Apisa,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

RABEL222 wrote:
Quote:
did the state try to loose the case?)
I have thought so from the start of this case. With the connivance of the Judge.
Nothing paranoid about U,
is there RABEL ?



RABEL222 wrote:
And the people on this site who have promoted the lies about Travon will continue with lies about Shelly
because they are unable to admit they were wrong

about saint George.
St. George killed the dragon !
We were not rong about Zimmy.
He STILL had as much right to kill travon
for beating his head on the street, regardless of his wife.





David
Frank Apisa wrote:

David...you are assuming Trayvon beat Zimmerman's head on the street.
No. I am not "assuming".
I simply believe Zimmy 's explanation of the nite 's events.
I see no reason to reject his explanation.



Frank Apisa wrote:
All we really have first hand is Zimmerman's account.
What 's rong with THAT??

If I were in Zimmy 's position,
I 'd want a jury to believe ME. I believe Zimmy.
His explanation is 1OO% plausible.




parados wrote:
And even if some beating was being done...
you are assuming it was not provoked by Zimmerman...
Again, that 's not "assuming"; its accepting his explanation.
The burden of proof is on the affirmative side, not on Zimmy.





parados wrote:
who is getting a track record of being an initiator of these kinds of things.
That 's OK.
Whatever ever happens after the event is not relevant to its cause.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 02:38 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

DAVID wrote:
Aren't we ALL ?

Were "we ALL" detained and investigated by the police yesterday? I wasn't.
Does that render u IMMUNE ?
firefly
 
  2  
Tue 10 Sep, 2013 02:40 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Speaking exclusively to MailOnline, Mr Donnelly said simply: ‘Shellie is wonderful. She doesn’t deserve this...

Retired physician’s assistant and Vietnam veteran Mr Donnelly and his wife Leanne Benjamin, who owns a real estate company in Lake Mary, stepped up for Zimmerman in his hour of need.

They each provided powerful testimony at his trial asserting that it was Zimmerman, not teenager Trayvon Martin, who could be heard screaming for help in one particular 911 call on the night of February 26 last year.

Having met by virtue of Leanne’s company sharing a building with the insurance firm for which Zimmerman once worked, the couple became so close to the younger man that they regarded him like a son.

Mr Donnelly took Zimmerman to buy the suits, shirts and ties he wore at court. He taught him to tie a Windsor knot....

Mr Donnelly said: ‘Shellie is a wonderful person. She’s still young. She can get on with her life. We’re here to support her in any way she needs.

‘But I don’t know where George’s head is.

‘It’s not just us. A lot of people who were involved in the trial really just don’t understand where his head is right now.’

On hearing the news of yesterday’s altercation Leanne described Zimmerman as ‘a powder keg ready to blow.’

She and her husband expressed ‘relief’ that nobody had been hurt. Both had been living in fear that, in his post-acquittal ‘recklessness’ Zimmerman would ‘get himself into a situation’ and end up hurt or dead.

Mr Donnelly admitted: ‘I’m fearful for him, for what he might get himself into. I would take that gun of his and throw it to the bottom of the nearest lake.

‘He’s burned every bridge that he’s ever had. And I don’t know how he’s going to come back because his bridges are gone.’


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2416705/George-Zimmerman-betrayed-abandoned-closest-powder-keg-ready-blow.html


The people who know George Zimmerman the best, his wife and his friends, are being much more honest and realistic about the man than his half-cocked defenders in this thread.
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firefly
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 02:44 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:

did you have a legally separated soon to be ex

This is the second time I'm asking--where is the evidence of a legal separation?

All she has done is file divorce papers--which might not have even been served on him yet. That is not a legal separation agreement. It is not a legal separation.

Try sticking to the truth for a change--if you can.
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firefly
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 02:46 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Zimmerman may yet be arrested for his actions yesterday, regardless of whatever word games you play.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 02:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

'The same can not be said for George Zimmerman. According to the paramedic report, the vigilante neighborhood watch captain was on the prescription drug Temazepam, reports MSNBC.com."


Your above quote is interesting. Anyone looking at Zimmerman can see he's a violent man from his recent behavior. There were reports he was abusive to another woman earlier and has quite a temper. I read the killer was once upon a time enrolled in anger management classes. Zimmerman is a frightening person walking among us. That savage should be behind bars. Zimmer's Defense lawyers were careful to control what we saw of Zimmerman's erratic and unpredictable past, but here we have him playing out his profile before the nation! We have not heard the last of this creep. He will strike again; it seems his acquittal has embolden him and he thinks he invincible!
ossobuco
 
  1  
Tue 10 Sep, 2013 03:02 pm
I have some questions which those of you who have read more on this latest stuff may know more about -

did Shellie and her father actually get her possessions out of the house and into the truck and trailer?

I read the house is owned by Shellie's father. Were they paying rent, had some kind of lease?
firefly
 
  0  
Tue 10 Sep, 2013 03:15 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
I read the house is owned by Shellie's father. Were they paying rent, had some kind of lease?

I also read that it is owned by her father, but I read in another report that it is owned by someone close to the family. It's not clear who owns the house, but I'm sure some reporter will dig it up--that sort of info isn't hard to find.

They were paying $1000 a month rent. That's apparently below market value for that kind of rental, so it does seem like someone was giving them a break on the rent. The money to pay the rent was coming out of George Zimmerman's legal defense fund.

I have no idea if they had a lease, or if Shellie and her dad had actually removed possessions from the house yesterday.
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BillRM
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 03:41 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Quote:
anyone looking at Zimmerman can see he's a violent man from his recent behavior.


Yes he is violence as when attacked by a young hoodlum he defended himself.
BillRM
 
  0  
Tue 10 Sep, 2013 03:53 pm
Footnote as Zimmerman soon to be ex wife is on probation if one of a numbers of cameras in or out of the house or the broken Ipad show her hitting Zimmerman it is not going to be good for her.

An if will not matter one little bit what Zimmerman wish for or not as far as charging his wife is concern.

Another example of the state coming into people lives with jack boots.

Second Footnote, there is a back up of months to half a year in computer forensic for serous crimes and yet my bet is they will drop everything to try to get information out of that broken Ipad.
firefly
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 06:27 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Footnote as Zimmerman soon to be ex wife is on probation if one of a numbers of cameras in or out of the house or the broken Ipad show her hitting Zimmerman it is not going to be good for her.

Given his penchant for shooting and killing people who hit him, she'd have to worry about that, a lot, before she'd worry about her probation.

And he had a gun with him yesterday, and he did put his hand on it...

And it was George Zimmerman, not Shellie, that the police detained and questioned...

You have such a hard time dealing with reality...
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Wed 11 Sep, 2013 03:05 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
anyone looking at Zimmerman can see he's a violent man from his recent behavior.


Yes he is violence as when attacked by a young hoodlum he defended himself.


Absolutely gorgeously constructed sentence. A fifth grade teacher would have given it a "D."
OmSigDAVID
 
  3  
Wed 11 Sep, 2013 05:45 am

I guess by now, u have all become aware
of the citizens of Colorado having cleansed their State Senate of 2 anti-freedom,
gun control supporters (including the President of the Senate).

FREEDOM WON AGAIN





David
revelette
 
  1  
Wed 11 Sep, 2013 06:09 am
@OmSigDAVID,
And your post relates to this thread, how?
BillRM
 
  0  
Wed 11 Sep, 2013 06:39 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I guess by now, u have all become aware
of the citizens of Colorado having cleansed their State Senate of 2 anti-freedom,
gun control supporters (including the President of the Senate).


An this happen with the gun control group out spending the so call gun nuts by something like 6 to one.

The billionaire mayor of New York wrote some very big checks to supports these assholes an it did not work.
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