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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
firefly
 
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Mon 9 Sep, 2013 04:03 pm
@hawkeye10,
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even more so if this woman is changing career fields, becoming a victim culture promoter.

It's George Zimmerman who has been promoted as the victim. And his brother Robert is a very active promoter of George as the victim.

I think Shellie Zimmerman just wants to get away from him. She's not acting like a victim at all. Her recent interviews suggest she's ready to move on with her life.

What now? We're going to see poor George portrayed as the victim of his crazy or malicious wife?

Are the Zimmerman cheerleaders going to shift from attacking Trayvon to attacking Shellie?


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Moment-in-Time
 
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Mon 9 Sep, 2013 04:11 pm
@firefly,
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Lake Mary police took the call "extremely seriously" and sent eight units, including officers in tactical gear with ballistic shields, to the home, according to Bracknell.


LOL! Even "eight units, including officers in tactical gear with ballistic shields" arrived at the home. Jeepers! Clearly, the Police in Florida do not trust Zimmerman!!! Shellie Zimmerman's phone call was a frantic one! Clearly Shellie was a frightened woman....it was played on TV. One cannot help wondering if Zimmerman is an alcoholic! This might explain his bizarre rages.
cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 9 Sep, 2013 04:12 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
It's his medication.
firefly
 
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Mon 9 Sep, 2013 04:21 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
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One cannot help wondering if Zimmerman is an alcoholic! This might explain his bizarre rages.

That thought has crossed my mind too. Although I don't think these are drunken rages, because that would be fairly obvious.

But I have wondered whether he has a drinking problem because he was ordered to take alcohol education classes after he assaulted the law enforcement officer. And a high alcohol intake, in addition to overeating, would help to explain the enormous amount of weight he put on prior to his trial--alcohol adds a lot of calories.

He is an emotionally disturbed man. That's the reason for his poor controls.



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Moment-in-Time
 
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Mon 9 Sep, 2013 04:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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It's his medication.


Is there a history of prescription taking that would cause this individual to go off the deep end? George Zimmer does appear mentally deficient.
firefly
 
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Mon 9 Sep, 2013 04:32 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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It's his medication.

He's on the medication because of his emotional problems.

You can't blame the medication for something that's been a part of his behavior pattern for a very long time. He also has a past history of making suicidal threats.

This is his personality, not the medication, C.I.

He sounds like he has Borderline Personality Disorder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder
Moment-in-Time
 
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Mon 9 Sep, 2013 04:48 pm
@firefly,
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He sounds like he has Borderline Personality Disorder.
Poor George Zimmerman. He is transparently unstable and really should be placed in a straitjacket.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 9 Sep, 2013 04:58 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
I posted this a few pages back.
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The same can not be said for George Zimmerman. According to the paramedic report, the vigilante neighborhood watch captain was on the prescription drug Temazepam, reports MSNBC.com.


Here's a condensed list of side effects from Temazepam. I deleted some of the side effects that doesn't relate to Zimmerman.
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Applies to temazepam: oral capsule, oral tablet

Along with its needed effects, temazepam may cause some unwanted effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need medical attention.

Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking temazepam:

Less common
fear or nervousness
mood or mental changes


Rare
Difficult or labored breathing
fast, irregular, pounding, or racing heartbeat or pulse
loss of memory My note: remember he couldn't remember the street name?
problems with memory
seeing, hearing, or feeling things that are not there
shakiness and unsteady walk
uncontrolled eye movements
unsteadiness, trembling, or other problems with muscle control or coordination My note: he could have fallen on his own to injure his head.
unusual excitement, nervousness, restlessness, or irritability

Incidence not known
Muscle cramps My note: he fell.
seizures
shakiness in the legs, arms, hands, or feet
trembling or shaking of the hands or feet

Get emergency help immediately if any of the following symptoms of overdose occur while taking temazepam:

Symptoms of overdose
Blurred vision
change in consciousness
confusion
decreased or absent reflexes
difficult or troubled breathing
dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up suddenly from a lying or sitting position
loss of consciousness My note: he fell and injured his head.
shortness of breath
unusual tiredness or weakness


cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 9 Sep, 2013 05:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Shellies 911 call.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/shellie-zimmerman-911-call-20205180
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revelette
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 07:48 am
Boy, he just can't keep out of trouble, can he?

There might be tad bit of resentment going on Shellie Zimmerman but if there is one can hardly blame her. After all, he stood by silently and let her take the rap for the actions both of them took in trying to hide money from the court and didn't even have the grace to stand by her during her perjury trial like she stood by him during his murder trial, and that was after they already had a fight on the very night Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin. (why didn't that come out in the trial, did the state try to loose the case?)

RABEL222
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 08:28 am
@revelette,
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did the state try to loose the case?)


I have thought so from the start of this case. With the connivance of the Judge. And the people on this site who have promoted the lies about Travon will continue with lies about Shelly because they are unable to admit they were wrong about saint George.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 08:36 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:
Boy, he just can't keep out of trouble, can he?
Zimmy is Mr. Average American: an ordinary guy,
or maybe somewhat ABOVE average by his willingness
to watch the naborhood, against the interests of the burglars.
He 's a better man than I am.



revelette wrote:
There might be tad bit of resentment going on Shellie Zimmerman
but if there is one can hardly blame her. After all, he stood by silently and let her take the rap for the actions both of them took in trying to hide money from the court and didn't even have the grace to stand by her during her perjury trial like she stood by him during his murder trial, and that was after

they already had a fight on the very night Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin.
(why didn't that come out in the trial, did the state try to loose the case?)
Because it does not matter how many fights
u have been involved with,
when someone is beating your head on the street.
U have the right to kill him anyway.
revelette
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 08:51 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Apparently Shellie's dad got hit in the nose like Zimmerman, if he had a gun I guess by your reckoning, he could have shot him, whether Zimmerman was armed or not.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 09:22 am
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:
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did the state try to loose the case?)
I have thought so from the start of this case. With the connivance of the Judge.
Nothing paranoid about U,
is there RABEL ?



RABEL222 wrote:
And the people on this site who have promoted the lies about Travon will continue with lies about Shelly
because they are unable to admit they were wrong

about saint George.
St. George killed the dragon !
We were not rong about Zimmy.
He STILL had as much right to kill travon
for beating his head on the street, regardless of his wife.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 09:27 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:
Apparently Shellie's dad got hit in the nose like Zimmerman, if he had a gun I guess by your reckoning,
he could have shot him, whether Zimmerman was armed or not.
If u know how to do it,
its possible to kill someone with a hand strike to the nose.

Whether it is justifiable or not is a question of whether it is reasonable,
i.e., whether there was a real attack or not.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 09:33 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
I posted this a few pages back.

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The same can not be said for George Zimmerman. According to the paramedic report,
the vigilante neighborhood watch captain . . .
That 's a good word for it.
Zimmy really WAS being vigilant,
in his observation of his naborhood against burglars, to save his friends such as Olivia.
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 09:42 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

RABEL222 wrote:
Quote:
did the state try to loose the case?)
I have thought so from the start of this case. With the connivance of the Judge.
Nothing paranoid about U,
is there RABEL ?



RABEL222 wrote:
And the people on this site who have promoted the lies about Travon will continue with lies about Shelly
because they are unable to admit they were wrong

about saint George.
St. George killed the dragon !
We were not rong about Zimmy.
He STILL had as much right to kill travon
for beating his head on the street, regardless of his wife.





David


David...you are assuming Trayvon beat Zimmerman's head on the street. All we really have first hand is Zimmerman's account. And even if some beating was being done...you are assuming it was not provoked by Zimmerman...who is getting a track record of being an initiator of these kinds of things.

firefly
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 09:42 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Your "Zimmy" is lucky he didn't find himself arrested yesterday.
parados
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 09:47 am
@OmSigDAVID,
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If u know how to do it,
its possible to kill someone with a hand strike to the nose.

And that shows the idiocy of your argument David.

You can't shoot until they hit you and then you could be dead.
firefly
 
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Tue 10 Sep, 2013 10:02 am
@revelette,
Zimmerman did have a gun yesterday, but when the police arrived, he didn't have it on him--it was in his car. The police didn't have a search warrant for the car, so they didn't look in there.

Shellie Zimmerman changed her story and told the police she never saw the gun. That was after she spoke to her lawyer. Had she said she saw George holding, or flashing, his gun, he would have faced 3 years in jail just for doing that.

Shellie does seem genuinely frightened of him, and his potential for violence, and she knows him better than anyone else does.

Both George Zimmerman's lawyer and Shellie Zimmerman's lawyer showed up at the scene yesterday and likely convinced Shellie and her father not to press charges against George, and to try to work out the matter privately. I heard O'Mara say as much on CNN last night. He also tried to downplay what George did as just, "pushing and shoving." I wonder if Zimmerman also pushed and shoved Trayvon Martin too, and that's what provoked a punch in the nose from him. That would explain Martin saying, "get off me," which is the last thing Rachel Jeantel heard him say to Zimmerman.

The police are still going to study surveillance videos from outside the house to see if those indicate any crime by George Zimmerman. According to O'Mara, there was no video of what went on inside the house between George and Shellie's father.

George better find a new place to live. Everyone knows his location now.

I wonder how long it will be before his next run-in with the police.

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