The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@BillRM,

Another fine example of your brilliant intellect at work.

http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo352/Bluemamoo/Not%20over%20the%20hill/3294_view.gif

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@Moment-in-Time,

Moment-in-Time wrote:

The poster, Billrm, is a pathetic soul, a tragic human being, the typical reject failure in life. Between you and Firefly he has been made into mincemeat. LOL! Ah! I love to see arrogant racist assholes put in their well deserved places.

Those freaks and their incessant lying couldn't hope to ever make anything into mincemeat. The fact that every single thing they say is an outright falsehood renders their babbling impotent from the start.

And stop lying yourself. BillRM is anything but a racist. Nor do any of your other descriptions of him match.

It is shameful for you to tell horrible lies about people just because you find their facts troublesome.

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@oralloy,

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It is shameful for you to tell horrible lies about people just because you find their facts troublesome.

Oralloy, in my opinion at least, it is kind of amusing but in a very sad way.

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@oralloy,

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It is shameful for you to tell horrible lies about people just because you find their facts troublesome.

Then why do you do such shameful things, oralloy.

There's not a word of truth in this statement you made, oralloy....

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Given Trayvon's history of using extremely deranged drugs, his history of burglary, his carrying of ingredients to mix with his extremely deranged drugs, and his casing of houses, it is quite possible that Mr. Zimmerman's actions prevented Trayvon from massacring multiple families that night.

Either you're lying, or you're delusional. Take your pick.

But you've yet to say anything that someone in their right mind would take seriously. Judging by this thread, Zimmerman's staunchest supporters are all part of the lunatic fringe. Laughing

Every time you post, I hear this playing in the background. It's your theme song. The realm you inhabit. Laughing

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

It is shameful for you to tell horrible lies about people just because you find their facts troublesome.

it is a mislabeling of people as garbage so that their ideas can be hauled to the trash without consideration, a defense mechanism of the weak minded.

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@hawkeye10,

How can your facts be troublesome when you can't even provide any reliable source to support what you say. What you call facts are actually fiction; imagined from your own brain without the evidence to be proved by reality.

You belong as the author of comic books.

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@cicerone imposter,

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How can your facts be troublesome when you can't even provide any reliable source to support what you say. What you call facts are actually fiction; imagined from your own brain without the evidence to be proved by reality.

You mean the facts that a jury look at and then declared Zimmerman was justify in killing Trayvon?

The same set of facts that have the legal experts stating that the state case was very weak before hand?

Hell where half the prosecutor witnesses ended up sounding like defense witnesses.

But for the race baiters such as Sharpson and Jackson help by the news media this case would never had been file in the first place.

A text book example of justifiable homicide.

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@BillRM,

Facts? You completely disregard the facts..

How about all the bullshit you keep spouting about the victim of the homicide, Trayvon Martin? Almost none of it is fact.

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But for the race baiters such as Sharpson and Jackson help by the news media this case would never had been file in the first place.

If you're so interested in facts, then you know the police wanted to arrest Zimmerman right after the shooting and charge him with manslaughter. It was the D.A. who passed on it.

It was Martin's parents who sought the help of Sharpton in publicizing this case. It was never about "race-baiting". Martin's parents felt their son's death was inadequately investigated and that their son's killer should be held accountable and answerable.

Zimmerman stalked and killed an innocent unarmed kid he had erroneously profiled. The death definitely warrented further investigation and legal accountability. Sharpton quite rightly brought that matter to public attention. He was very successful in helping Martin's parents to see that Zimmerman was arrested.

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A text book example of justifiable homicide.

This was never "a text book example of justifiable homicide"--and it still isn't.

So, when are you going to deal with facts?

How about starting with the facts about George Zimmerman.

The person you refer to as an "outstanding citizen" had an arrest history for assaulting a cop, has a history of behaving abusively toward females, was turned down by a police department as an unsuitable applicant, was continually mired in debt and was sued at least once for non-payment of credit card bills, and engaged in an elaborate scheme to deliberately conceal evidence from a judge--causing the judge to say he was a liar who deliberately flaunted and manipulated the justice system, and who likely planned to flee the country with other people's money .

And then there's the little matter of his profiling an innocent kid, and stalking him in the darkness of a gated community, in complete disregard of Neighborhood Watch rules...

Zimmerman's behavior pattern is "outstanding" mainly as an example of anti-social tendencies and irresponsibility.

And lets not forget the juror who said, "George Zimmerman got away with murder."

Your allegedly great mind seems unable to handle facts.

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There is a book that sound interesting by the name of “If I Had a Son: Race, Guns, and the Railroading of George Zimmerman,” by Jack Cashill that sound very interesting coming out soon.

Covering the back story of how the political trial of George Zimmerman came about.

Below is the publisher description of the book

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“If I Had A Son” addresses the political and cultural dynamics that empowered the state of Florida to arrest Zimmerman in the first place. As Cashill points out, it was the first time in the history of American jurisprudence that a state, the Department of Justice, the media, the entertainment industry, the vestiges of the civil rights movement and the White House conspired to send an innocent man to prison for the rest of his life.

footnote it is not out as an ebook at BN yet as I just checked for it.

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@BillRM,

You don't know that that book contains any facts, so why are you bringing it up?

The woman who did the recent interviews with Zimmerman's wife is also writing a book. She's said that evidence was overlooked that would have resulted in a different verdict.

It was Trayvon Martin's parents who wanted Zimmerman arrested. They had no political motives. They wanted the man who killed their unarmed child held legally accountable. They were right.

Try dealing with the facts.

Still waiting for you to deal with facts.

So far, you're still concealing that allegedly great mind of yours--it seems unable to handle basic reality, along with facts.

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@BillRM,

No nook/ebook yet however you can order it in hard cover from BN now.

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http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/if-i-had-a-son-jack-cashill/1114982655?ean=9781938067211

Overview
His friends called George Zimmerman "Tugboat," the one who always came to the rescue. An Hispanic-American civil rights activist, he helped a black homeless man find justice. He helped guide two black teens through life. He helped a terrified mother secure her house. He helped his wary neighbors secure their community. In If I Had A Son, Jack Cashill tells the inside story of how, as the result of a tragic encounter with troubled seventeen-year-old Trayvon Martin, the media turned Tugboat into a white racist vigilante, "the most hated man in America." If I Had A Son tells how for the first time in the history of American jurisprudence, a state government, the US Department of Justice, the White House, the major media, the entertainment industry and the vestiges of the civil rights movement conspired to put an innocent man in prison for the rest of his life. All that stood between Zimmerman and lifetime internment were two folksy local lawyers, their aides, and some very dedicated citizen journalists, most notably an unpaid handful of truth seekers at the blogging collective known as the Conservative Treehouse. If I Had A Son takes an inside look at this unprecedented battle formation. If I Had A Son tells the story too of the six stalwart female jurors who ignored the enormous pressure mounting around them and preserved America's belief in its judicial system. In the wake of the verdict, skeptics in the Martin camp claimed that the State of Florida did not play to win. In the course of his research, Cashill came across some startling evidence which suggests that those skeptics may indeed be right. If I Had A Son is the one and only comprehensive look at the most politically significant trial in decades. What George Zimmerman learned in the course of his ordeal is that although he supported Obama, and lobbied for Obama, and voted for Obama at least once, in the final analysis he did not look enough like Obama to be his son, and that made all the difference.

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Meet the Author
Jack Cashill is an independent writer, producer and the Executive Editor of Ingram's Magazine. He's written for Fortune, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The Weekly Standard, AmericanThinker.com, and regularly for WND. In the last decade Cashill has written six other books of non-fiction— three of which have cracked Amazon's Top 10 list. He has produced a score of documentaries for regional PBS and national cable channels, including the Emmy Award-winning, The Royal Years.

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@BillRM,

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If I Had A Son tells the story too of the six stalwart female jurors who ignored the enormous pressure mounting around them and preserved America's belief in its judicial system

Including the one juror who said, "George Zimmerman got away with murder"? Laughing

And another juror who said that the laws used to acquit him need to be changed? Laughing

You do realize that book sounds like a flat out propaganda piece, don't you? John Cashill is a right-wing conservative and he will reiterate the same biased crap that the right-wing conservative Web sites, like WorldNetDaily, have been promoting about this case all along. And racist types, like you, really lap that **** up.

You are an asshole.

You're also a pathetic little man who is woefully out of your depth in any discussion that requires intellectual ability and critical thinking skills.

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http://www.ksat.com/image/view/-/9618556/highRes/4/-/10tgjcv/-/Trayvon-Martin-3-jpg.jpg

Trayvon Martin, about a week and a half before he was killed.

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@firefly,

well over 1000 17 year old black children are sent to adult prison each year, I bet a lot of them look more boyish than travon. looks dont mean anything, these pics are nothin but another Firefly cheap trick to avoid the issues by clouding them with emotion manipulation.

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@hawkeye10,

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these pics are nothin but another Firefly cheap trick to avoid the issues by clouding them with emotion manipulation

The picture is to remind people we are talking about a real child--not the product of fantasy.

This child had no criminal record, no history of any anti-social activities in the community, no history of hurting or harming anyone.

And that's one of the last pictures taken of him--Zimmerman killed him about a week and a half after that photo was taken.

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@firefly,

I could post pics of 14 year old black African boys who have not just killed many but brutally tortured and raped many too......but I am not into playing your cheap diversionary games, just pointing them out.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

I do not think it is particularly smart either, David.
But very intelligent people sometimes do dumb things.

But the fact of the matter is that we do not truly know the
particulars of what happened that night.

One of the observers is dead. And the story of having
his head beat against the sidewalk is coming only from the guy who is living.

DAVID wrote:

Our ignorance is of NO legal nor moral significance.

Frank Apisa wrote:

YOU brought the subject up, David.

NO, no, no; I brought up the subject that it was not smart to beat someone's head on the street.
Now, u are confusing THAT with your own affirmation concerning
our alleged ignorance of what happened that nite; those are 2 different subjects.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Do you think Zimmerman ever lied in his life?

DAVID wrote:

I think that NONE OF US cud withstand scrutiny by that criterion, Frank. Cud U ???

David

Frank Apisa wrote:

Nope. And definitely I think Zimmerman couldn't either.

Do u claim that there is ANY human alive on Earth
who actually cud withstand that specified scrutiny
(to wit, that he has NEVER told a lie in his life) ??

If u DO, then will u favor us with his IDENTITY
or
will u admit that u are holding Zimmy
to a super-human standard of conduct,
because u don't like him???

(Is that fair, in your opinion, Frank,
to hold Zimmy to the standard of permanent (retrospective), immaculate truth??)

David

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

I could post pics of 14 year old black African boys who have not
just killed many but brutally tortured and raped many too......
but I am not into playing your cheap diversionary games,
just pointing them out.

Do u expect Al Sharpton to get equally mad at them,
the same as at Zimmy, Hawkeye ?

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
I do not think it is particularly smart either, David.
But very intelligent people sometimes do dumb things.

But the fact of the matter is that we do not truly know the
particulars of what happened that night.

One of the observers is dead. And the story of having
his head beat against the sidewalk is coming only from the guy who is living.
DAVID wrote:
Our ignorance is of NO legal nor moral significance.

Frank Apisa wrote:

YOU brought the subject up, David.
NO, no, no; I brought up the subject that it was not smart to beat someone's head on the street.
Now, u are confusing THAT with your own affirmation concerning
our alleged ignorance of what happened that nite; those are 2 different subjects.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, David.

You brought a subject up...and I responded appropriately. Now you want to limit what I can use in my response.

That's not going to work...and I think you know it.

You used the expression "beat his head on the street"...and I noted that we do not know that he did.

C'mon.

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Frank Apisa wrote:
Do you think Zimmerman ever lied in his life?

DAVID wrote:
I think that NONE OF US cud withstand scrutiny by that criterion, Frank. Cud U ???

David

Frank Apisa wrote:
Nope. And definitely I think Zimmerman couldn't either.
Do u claim that there is ANY human alive on Earth
who actually cud withstand that specified scrutiny
(to wit, that he has NEVER told a lie in his life) ??

If u DO, then will u favor us with his IDENTITY
or
will u admit that u are holding Zimmy
to a super-human standard of conduct,
because u don't like him???

(Is that fair, in your opinion, Frank,
to hold Zimmy to the standard of permanent (retrospective), immaculate truth??)

David

No way, David. You were saying that Zimmerman described what happened. I noted that he could be lying.

You really want to limit what can be used in rebuttal...when you think it completely appropriate to use all kinds of speculation (and what could easily be the self-serving words of Zimmerman).

Like I said...that is not going to work.

Back to the drawing board.

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@hawkeye10,

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well over 1000 17 year old black children are sent to adult prison each year, I bet a lot of them look more boyish than travon. looks dont mean anything, these pics are nothin but another Firefly cheap trick to avoid the issues by clouding them with emotion manipulation.

One of the two black young men who beat the 88 years old WW2 vet to death happen to be 15 years old.

Oh and the young man who was one of the two DC snipers who gun down god know how many innocent people were very very young looking also.

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