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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
BillRM
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 03:04 pm
@parados,
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So... which FCAT did Martin fail Bill? The 3rd grade? The 5th grade? The annual test administered to every grade?


So you think Trayvon might had been in the third grade?

Sorry once more there is only two FCAT tests that matter for students advancements one in the third grade and the one that is first given in the tenth grade.

Other FCAT testings are used to rate the schools not the students.

But I am coming to the conclusion if you can not understand that you would never have been able to pass the Florida tenth grade test yourself.

Maybe you can read the links I had given you very very slowly so you might be able to understand these concepts.

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firefly
 
  0  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 03:05 pm
@BillRM,
Since Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin, any issues about his attending college became rather moot. So why are you continuing to dwell on this?

Trayvon came from an education minded family--his mother is a college graduate, his brother is a college senior, and the expectation was for Trayvon to attend college as well, which is what he planned on doing. He was only a high school junior, he had plenty of time to pass any tests needed for graduation.

George Zimmerman hadn't even been able to graduate from a two year community college by the age of 28, and I don't believe his brother, Robert Zimmerman Jr., who allegedly worked as a part-time "singer" of some sort, before he began cashing in on George's notoriety by being "the family spokesperson", graduated from college either.

And it's Trayvon Martin who is being commemorated and honored.

Meanwhile, George Zimmerman, the loser, has dim prospects, his marriage is over, and he isn't even able to obey the traffic laws...
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parados
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 03:22 pm
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Nearly half of Florida high schoolers failed the reading portion of the state's tougher new FCAT test this year, the Department of Education said Friday.
BillRM
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 03:31 pm
@parados,
Quote:
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Nearly half of Florida high schoolers failed the reading portion of the state's tougher new FCAT test this year, the Department of Education said Friday


First that is why they are given so many chances to pass and second not many college material students are likely not to be able to read at the tenth grade level in the tenth grade let alone in the 11 or 12 grades.

Trayvon was not from his record college material plain and simple.
firefly
 
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Sun 8 Sep, 2013 03:35 pm
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03.22.12
Trayvon Martin: a typical teen who loved video games, looked forward to prom
By AUDRA D.S. BURCH and LAURA ISENSEE

Trayvon Martin spent his 17th birthday, which would be his last, with his family. He ate a home-cooked meal followed by cake, opened presents that included Levis jeans, Adidas sneakers and a bottle of Issey Miyake cologne.

He would be 17 for 21 days. He died Feb. 26, a bullet in his chest, shot by a neighborhood crime watch captain patrolling a suburban gated townhouse community in Sanford, 250 miles from his home, where he had gone with his father after a school suspension...

“He had been so looking forward to going to his junior prom, and he had already started talking about all the senior activities in high school,’’ his mother, Sybrina Fulton, 46, said in a voice hollowed and somber. “He will never do any of those things.’’

As the nation grapples with the killing of an unarmed black teenager wearing a hoodie, his parents patiently offer the simple details of Trayvon’s life, painting the portrait of a typical teenager who would end up in a casket, buried in white suit with a powder blue vest.

Trayvon was...a former Optimist League football player with a narrow frame and a voracious appetite. He wanted to fly or fix planes, struggled in chemistry, loved sports video games and went to New York for the first time two summers ago, seeing the Empire State Building, the Statue of Liberty and a Broadway musical, The Addams Family. He hoped to attend the University of Miami or Florida A&M University, enamored by both schools’ bright orange and green hues.

Also known as “Slimm”, he...spent endless hours talking or texting on his cell phone. Other times he was quiet, listening to the soundtrack of R&B, reggae, rap and gospel music flowing through his ear buds or watching half-hour re-runs of Martin, his favorite show.

Trayvon’s parents — his mother is a Miami-Dade government employee and his dad is a truck driver — divorced in 1999 but lived near each other in Miami Gardens, working hard to raise Trayvon with family values and lift him above the statistics. They tried to make sure he was exposed to experiences beyond South Florida: skiing, snowboarding and riding snowmobiles. Mother and son went horseback riding for her birthday, 13 days after his.

“Tray was a beautiful child. He was raised to have manners and be respectful. He was a teenager who still had a lot of kid in him,” his father, Tracy Martin, 45, said. “He still loved to go to Chuck E. Cheese with his cousins and would bake them chocolate chip cookies when he was babysitting them.”

Still, Trayvon had nonviolent behavioral issues in school, and on the day he was killed, he had been suspended for 10 days from Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School in North Miami-Dade.

“He was not suspended for something dealing with violence or anything like that. It wasn’t a crime he committed, but he was in an unauthorized area [on school property],” Martin said, declining to offer more details.

Before that, Trayvon attended Miami Carol City High School near his mother’s home in Miami Gardens.

“He was doing average in school, a little bit better when he was at Carol City and then I had him transferred,’’ she said this week. “I thought Krop was a better school and I wanted a different environment for him. My oldest son has graduated from there.’’

Trayvon’s older brother, Jhavaris Fulton, 21, is a junior at Florida International University.

When he was a child, Trayvon saved his father’s life.

“That was my main man. That was my hero. He saved my life, actually pulled me out of a house fire. He was 9 years old at the time. A 9-year-old kid saved his dad’s life. And I wasn’t there to save his life,’’ Martin said in an MSNBC interview that aired Thursday. “As a dad, that makes me feel bad because I know my son was depending on me to be his savior. And I couldn’t save his life at that time.”

Trayvon spent his freshman year and much of his sophomore year at Carol City, where on Thursday, more than 1,000 students walked out to honor him and fight for justice in the case.

His first year there, Trayvon would spend mornings at the high school — a roomy campus of cream buildings in Miami Gardens — and then go to George T. Baker Aviation School for the rest of the school day. Inspired by his uncle, Ronald Fulton, who had a brief career in aviation, Trayvon saw his future in planes.

“He loved flying and working with his hands. Barrington Irving took him on his plane at the Opa-locka Airport. He got a chance to sit in the cockpit and that did it for him,’’ said Fulton, referring to the youngest person and first black person to pilot a plane around the world solo in 2007. “He wanted to be a pilot or work as a mechanic in aviation. He was mechanically inclined and could fix just about anything.’’

Math was his favorite subject, according to one of his Carol City teachers, Ashley Gantt .She taught his sophomore year English honors class where the curriculum included works such as T he Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Sometimes he’d come to the second period class looking exhausted. Gantt would call out his name.

“I’m sorry, Ms. Gantt. I’m not asleep. I’m listening,” he’d reply, she said.

He’d often wear a hoodie at school – just like the one he was wearing the day he was killed in Sanford.

“Once he came in wearing a UM hoodie. I’m a Florida Gator,” Gantt said. “I’m like, ‘You can’t come into my class with that.’”

Gantt said she never saw Trayvon behave aggressively or show disrespect.

“He was just a sweet kid, she said. “He got As and Bs. If he received a C on an assignment, it was because he was just being a kid that day. He was very smart.”...

For Gantt, Trayvon’s death has become a teachable moment, telling her students: “You have to know what your rights are. You can wear a hoodie and walk into a gated community … you have the right to do that and not be profiled.”

At Krop, a sprawling campus near the county line, home to some 2,700 students, a few of the students recalled the days they shared with Trayvon in middle school. He attended both Norland Middle and Highland Oaks Middle schools, both also in North Miami-Dade.

Dominique Clarke, 17 who knew him from Highland Oaks, said he was very quiet and kept to himself. The friends took Spanish together.

“He wasn’t perfect. But he was someone who was very respectful,” she said. “He did have a bright future and everyone who knew him liked him.’’

One day at Krop last year, Brian Paz, 16, opened the door by the vending machine and he saw Trayvon. They had been good friends at Highland Oaks, but went to separate high schools.

“I was like ‘What’s up man?’ I was happy to see him again,” Brian recalled.

They became close friends. When Brian’s mother, who is from Colombia, called her son, “he would say my name in a funny way. I’ll never forget the way he said it. ‘Brrrian,’ ’’ Brian remembered, rolling his ‘r’ and laughing at the memory before becoming more serious.

He wants people to know something about his childhood friend: “He wasn’t threatening. There was no reason for George Zimmerman to pull out a gun and kill him. He was too peaceful for that.”

Trayvon left the Sanford townhouse on a rainy Sunday night nearly a month ago to walk to a nearby convenience store. On his way back, candy and canned ice tea in hand, Zimmerman decided he looked suspicious. He called police who advised him not to follow the boy...

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/22/v-print/2708960/trayvon-martin-a-typical-teen.html#storylink=cpy
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firefly
 
  0  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 03:40 pm
@BillRM,
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Trayvon was not from his record college material plain and simple.

Trayvon Martin was in a sophomore English honors class.

No way would you have ever been in an English honors class. Laughing

Actually Martin sounds like he was much better college material than you.

And probably considerably better than Zimmerman as well...
parados
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 03:42 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Recent studies across the country and in Texas
indicate that many students are graduating from
high school unprepared for college-level work.
A national 2008 study found that 29 percent of
students enrolled at four-year public institutions
required remediation (Strong American Schools
2008). ese ndings were comparable to those
of a Texas study, which found that 24 percent of
students were unprepared for college (Terry 2007).
Studies examining the diculty level of reading
materials required in the workplace (such as em-
ployment applications and job training materials)
suggest that students may be graduating from high
school unprepared for the workplace as well (Wil-
liamson 2004, 20
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 03:44 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Quote:
Trayvon was not from his record college material plain and simple.

Trayvon Martin was in a sophomore English honors class.

No way would you have ever been in an English honors class. Laughing

Actually Martin sounds like he was much better college material than you.And probably considerably better than Zimmerman as well...


Amen, Firefly. And in capital letters. For Bill to be questioning the intellectual facility of someone else ought to be a skit on Saturday Night Live. It is a joke.
firefly
 
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Sun 8 Sep, 2013 03:49 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Math was his favorite subject, according to one of his Carol City teachers, Ashley Gantt .She taught his sophomore year English honors class where the curriculum included works such as T he Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde....

“He was just a sweet kid, she said. “He got As and Bs. If he received a C on an assignment, it was because he was just being a kid that day. He was very smart.”...
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/22/2708960_p2/trayvon-martin-a-typical-teen.html#storylink=cpy


Definitely sounds like college material to me.
BillRM
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 04:04 pm
@parados,
So?

An these are people who received their high school diplomas an achievement that from all indication was that Trayvon was unlikely to do.
OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 04:05 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Quote:
Math was his favorite subject, according to one of his Carol City teachers, Ashley Gantt .She taught his sophomore year English honors class where the curriculum included works such as T he Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde....

“He was just a sweet kid, she said. “He got As and Bs. If he received a C on an assignment, it was because he was just being a kid that day. He was very smart.”...
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/22/2708960_p2/trayvon-martin-a-typical-teen.html#storylink=cpy


Definitely sounds like college material to me.
Maybe the college wud have taught him
not to beat anyone 's head against the street
.





David
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 04:09 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

An these are people who received their high school diplomas an achievement that from all indication was that Trayvon was unlikely to do.


Bill's sentence here was constructed by someone suggesting a lack of intelligence in another individual.

Incredible!
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 04:12 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

BillRM wrote:

An these are people who received their high school diplomas an achievement that from all indication was that Trayvon was unlikely to do.


Bill's sentence here was constructed by someone suggesting a lack of intelligence in another individual.

Incredible!
I dont think its smart
to beat anyone 's head against the street.

I have never done that;
no one I know, has ever done that:
we got along OK -- better than travon.





David
firefly
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 04:14 pm
@BillRM,
Trayvon Martin was not academically below average. His grades were above average. He most likely would have passed all state tests needed for graduation.

And his basic literacy was likely considerably better than yours.

I find it hard to believe that you even got a high school diploma.

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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 8 Sep, 2013 04:20 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

BillRM wrote:

An these are people who received their high school diplomas an achievement that from all indication was that Trayvon was unlikely to do.


Bill's sentence here was constructed by someone suggesting a lack of intelligence in another individual.

Incredible!
I dont think its smart
to beat anyone 's head against the street.

I have never done that;
no one I know, has ever done that:
we got along OK -- better than travon.





David



I do not think it is particularly smart either, David. But very intelligent people sometimes do dumb things.

But the fact of the matter is that we do not truly know the particulars of what happened that night. One of the observers is dead. And the story of having his head beat against the sidewalk is coming only from the guy who is living.

Do you think Zimmerman ever lied in his life?
BillRM
 
  2  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 04:26 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Amen, Firefly. And in capital letters. For Bill to be questioning the intellectual facility of someone else ought to be a skit on Saturday Night Live. It is a joke.


You live in a world with devices that might as well be power by magic as far as you and Firefly know.

My bet is that you do not know a packet from a port let alone what IVP4 happen to be and why we need to move to IVP6 at great cost.

You are a savage that been taught to turn on a computer and boot a browser with no more understanding of technology behind it then a savage out of a jungle would have.

Sorry but the idea that you an ignorant savage can look down on me is amusing indeed.

The following quote go along also with having some basic understanding of the science and the technology that are the foundation of our current society and culture.

Quote:
“Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best, he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear his shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house.”


― Robert A. Heinlein
firefly
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 04:31 pm
@Frank Apisa,
It really is a joke that BillRM questions anyone else's literacy, or their academic level, or their intellect. Laughing

He's got to believe that Trayvon Martin had no future. Otherwise, he's got to admit that Zimmerman really did profile and follow an innocent kid, and that Zimmerman's reckless actions caused a totally needless and tragic death.

It really galls him that Trayvon Martin gets honored and commemorated, with the respect his memory deserves.

If he thinks that trying to slander that teen, and assassinating his character, will change that, he's out of his mind. Martin will continue to be honored.

BillRM just continues to make more and more of a fool of himself, and to reveal all the ugliness he's got bottled up inside him.





firefly
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 04:41 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Sorry but the idea that you an ignorant savage can look down on me is amusing indeed.

The idea that you think you're smarter than anyone else, let alone as smart as other people, who are obviously better endowed intellectually than you are, is just ludicrous.

That you get arrogant about it is the height of absurdity.
http://forums.startreknewvoyages.com/Smileys/classic/AnimMouse.gif




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OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 04:44 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

BillRM wrote:

An these are people who received their high school diplomas an achievement that from all indication was that Trayvon was unlikely to do.


Bill's sentence here was constructed by someone suggesting a lack of intelligence in another individual.

Incredible!
DAVID wrote:
I dont think its smart
to beat anyone 's head against the street.

I have never done that;
no one I know, has ever done that:
we got along OK -- better than travon.





David


Frank Apisa wrote:
I do not think it is particularly smart either, David.
But very intelligent people sometimes do dumb things.

But the fact of the matter is that we do not truly know the
particulars of what happened that night.

One of the observers is dead. And the story of having
his head beat against the sidewalk is coming only from the guy who is living.
Our ignorance is of NO legal nor moral significance.





Frank Apisa wrote:
Do you think Zimmerman ever lied in his life?
I think that NONE OF US cud withstand scrutiny by that criterion, Frank. Cud U ???





David
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Sun 8 Sep, 2013 04:44 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

It really is a joke that BillRM questions anyone else's literacy, or their academic level, or their intellect. Laughing

He's got to believe that Trayvon Martin had no future. Otherwise, he's got to admit that Zimmerman really did profile and follow an innocent kid, and that Zimmerman's reckless actions caused a totally needless and tragic death.

It really galls him that Trayvon Martin gets honored and commemorated, with the respect his memory deserves.

If he thinks that trying to slander that teen, and assassinating his character, will change that, he's out of his mind. Martin will continue to be honored.

BillRM just continues to make more and more of a fool of himself, and to reveal all the ugliness he's got bottled up inside him.








I actually love when he posts, Firefly…like that post of his just above yours. It sounds as though it were composed by a fifth grader...a not especially talented fifth grader. The guy apparently thinks he is quite a brain.

Can you imagine anyone taking a ride on an airplane designed by him?

He is a sad case…and I guess I am stooping to his level with some of my comments about him. But the thought that someone like Bill is savaging a dead young man like Trayvon Martin for the reasons I suspect…brings out the worst in me.

Anyway...as I said, I want to prod him to post as often as possible, because each time he posts, he shows the intellectual level he is bringing to this conversation…a level which is abysmal.
 

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