The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@farmerman,

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reading a lot into what is essentialy a marketing gimmick spendi.

I was simply trying to put a respectable gloss on the subject fm. I'm capable of restraining expressions of my cynicism sometimes because I suspect they might be a trifle naive or simple-minded.

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@Frank Apisa,

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firefly wrote:
What was wrong was Zimmerman not remaining in his vehicle

Does it say that in the Owner's Manual??
I took it from the glove compartment,
but I did not see THAT.

DAVID wrote:

If there is any reason
that Zimmy shud have done that, then please tell us what it IS,
citing to any statutory or judicial authority in support.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Because he was carrying a gun...

U imply that:
Zimmy shud have left his gun in his car,
to make himself helpless, in case the suspected criminal attacks him,
to protect the suspected criminal, while he was attacking Zimmy ??

U reason that Zimmy shud have decided that:
"Hay, I might get into a life or death fight,
so I shud get rid of my gun, to protect the guy who is trying to KILL me!"

U mean that our goal shud be to protect violent criminals,
by dis-arming ourselves, to weaken our defenses; yes ??

Frank Apisa wrote:

and stalking a young man

In your vu,
"stalking" precedes pouncing, does it?? (like a lion??)

Frank Apisa wrote:

who may have been doing absolutely nothing wrong...
and who might detect that he was being stalked and react...and that might result in someone being shot.

A criminal being shot,
which is what happened. Zimmy made MY life safer,
for which he has my admiration & my gratitude.
I hope to shake his hand and to give him a decent gun;
I have in mind a 2 inch .44 special revolver, loaded with hollowpointed slugs.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Which is, essentially, what happened, David.

When a criminal is shot,
the good guys shud cheer. Its not just that travon was
casing the place; its also that he was trying to murder Zimmy.
After having successfully fled the scene (out of Zimmy 's sight)
for several minutes, he returned and became violent with Zimmy.
Travon's criminality is not open to guesswork.
Travon tried to kill Zimmy by pounding his head on the street.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Zimmerman should have stayed in his car...
the police were on the way.

Do u wish to offer citation
to any statutory or common law in support of that proposition?
Do we all share a common passion to keep criminals intact?
I do not suggest that we shud follow them to punish them,
but if criminals attack, then the good guys are fully within
their rights to fight back, as Zimmy did.

Frank Apisa wrote:

That is what Neighborhood Watch people are supposed to do.

Anyone can suppose anything;
supposing something does not create any moral imperative; yes ?

Next week, I can suppose
that u r the King of Mars.

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@BillRM,

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A perfect case of trying to blame the victim for being assaulted by a low life...

Then stop blaming Martin for the fact that Zimmerman, the lying lowlife, shot him.

Zimmerman is an emotionally disturbed man, with poor judgment and impaired impulse control, and a history of problems with aggression, who couldn't even abide by the simple rules of being a Neighborhood Watch, and his provocative and reckless actions led to the death of an innocent child who was a house guest in Zimmerman's own housing complex.

And, as Zimmerman and his wife have both shown, at his bail hearing, they are deceptive brazen liars who cannot be trusted.

Neither Zimmerman's accounts of the events of that night, or his alleged fears for his life, should be believed.

He's joined the club that includes O.J. and Casey Anthony....

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@BillRM,

Frank Apisa wrote:

Because he was carrying a gun...and stalking a young man who may have been doing absolutely nothing
wrong...and who might detect that he was being stalked and react...and that might result in someone being shot.

BillRM wrote:

Too bad his parents never taught Trayvon no matter how must he love fighting it is not safe
and it is not legal to assault some unknown adult for annoying you.

I 've been an adult for a long time,
but I do not accept that age discrimination concept.
Everyone shud be equally immune from criminal violence.
Criminals shud know that children are well armed in their own defense,
the same as adults and hopefully well trained in the public schools
in defensive gunfire and tactics.

BillRM wrote:

A perfect case of trying to blame the victim for being assaulted by a low life.

Yes, indeed,
but travon gave us a lot to write about.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Yes, indeed,
but travon gave us a lot to write about.

He also make more money for his family, in their settlement with the home owner association then he would had been likely to had been able to earn or to steal in two lifetimes.

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@BillRM,

http://www.flippingsocial.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/wpid-YOU-ARE-DISGUSTING.jpg

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@firefly,

Wait for it FF. With a little luck someone will talk Georgie boy into writing a book or making a movie with Georgie's help and than Travons family can strip him of every dime he makes. I wish him the greatest success! And Billy boy will buy the book and see the movie and therefore help Travons family get rich.

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@RABEL222,

RABEL222 wrote:

Wait for it FF. With a little luck someone will talk Georgie boy into writing a book or making a movie with Georgie's help and than Travons family can strip him of every dime he makes. I wish him the greatest success! And Billy boy will buy the book and see the movie and therefore help Travons family get rich.

Florida law makes Mr. Zimmerman immune to such civil lawsuits.

If the Martins even try to sue Mr. Zimmerman, not only will the case be thrown out of court, they will be forced to pay his legal bills.

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@RABEL222,

Good luck in getting money out of a man for the crime of defending his life from a hoodlum.

But even the possibility is zero thanks to the SYG law protections.

Still it is a damn shame that there will be no law suit as I would love all the **** we are aware of and likely even more would come out in open court concerning saint Trayvon.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Good luck in getting money out of a man for the crime of defending his life from a hoodlum.

But even the possibility is zero thanks to the SYG law protections.

Still it is a damn shame that there will be no law suit as I would love all the **** we are aware of and likely even more would come out in open court concerning saint Trayvon.

You really are a hateful man, Bill. You wanna work on that. Hate drags ya down.

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@Frank Apisa,

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You really are a hateful man,

Yes indeed I get annoyed toward a low life hoodlum that attacked and try to killed an outstanding citizen and if possible even more annoyed at those for reasons of racial politics that wish to turn this hoodlum into a victim and the real victim into a murderer.

An in order to try to do so will pound the facts completely out of shape to change a text book example of legal self defense into a racial killing even if the real victim does not have a racist bone in his bone.

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@Frank Apisa,

By the way Frank my bet is that if anyone was insane enough to threaten the life of any of Trayvon family the Federal government that been sleeping when death threats are issued to Zimmerman family would wake up and move like lightening to find and punished those who dare to threaten the Trayvon family members.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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You really are a hateful man,

Yes indeed I get annoyed toward a low life hoodlum that attacked and try to killed an outstanding citizen and if possible even more annoyed at those for reasons of racial politics that wish to turn this hoodlum into a victim and the real victim into a murderer.

An in order to try to do so will pound the facts completely out of shape to change a text book example of legal self defense into a racial killing even if the real victim does not have a racist bone in his bone.

Don't worry about what others are doing, Bill. Concern yourself with what you are doing.

You are, as I mentioned, a hateful person.

There is no rational that makes that okay.

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@Frank Apisa,

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You are, as I mentioned, a hateful person.

If that is your opinion I will surely loss no sleep over it.

Compared to all the charges and labels that Firefly had directed at me over the years your comment is a love letter.

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@BillRM,

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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You are, as I mentioned, a hateful person.

If that is your opinion I will surely loss no sleep over it.

Compared to all the charges and labels that Firefly had directed at me over the years your comment is a love letter.

Okay.

And in a way, it is meant as a "love letter." You are a fellow human being and I do not dislike you at all.

I am perplexed by why you are so hateful...and I see the condition as a huge negative rather than the sort of positive you apparently see it to be.

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@Frank Apisa,

you sir have confused hate with calling a spade a spade. humans are both good and evil, pointing out that evil is the sign of an educated man.

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@hawkeye10,

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pointing out that evil is the sign of an educated man.

As is true when the evil in BillRM's hatred is pointed out...

Referring to BillRM as hateful, as Frank did, is indeed calling a spade a spade.

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

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pointing out that evil is the sign of an educated man.

As is true when the evil in BillRM's hatred is pointed out...

Referring to BillRM as hateful, as Frank did, is indeed calling a spade a spade.

the only hate I have noticed from bill is of idiots and liers....maybe you could show me something else?

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@hawkeye10,

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the only hate I have noticed from bill is of idiots and liers....maybe you could show me something else?

If you've failed to notice it, that's not my problem, it's yours.

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