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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
firefly
 
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Thu 22 Aug, 2013 11:00 pm
George Zimmerman is an idiot. If he's so concerned about death threats, he shouldn't pose for smiling pictures while he's out gun-shopping. That's the sort of thing that's designed to inflame feelings toward him even more.
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George Zimmerman was on the hunt today -- for a shotgun ... TMZ has learned.

Zimmerman went to Kel-Tec in Cocoa, Florida ... a gun manufacturing company. We're told he was asking questions about the legality of buying a shotgun -- specifically, the Kel-Tec KSG.

The gun in question is a tactical shotgun, often used for home defense. It holds 12 rounds of 12 gauge shells.
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/08/22/0822-george-zimmerman-ksg-1.jpg

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/08/22/george-zimmerman-shotgun-kel-tec-trayvon-martin-shop-gun/#ixzz2clS8kS00



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George Zimmerman visits Fla. gun facility
Company manufactures gun used to kill Trayvon Martin
Shaun Chaiyabhat, Reporter,
Aug 22 2013

COCOA, Fla. -
Local 6 has confirmed through George Zimmerman's family that he was at a weapons manufacturing facility Thursday. What's still unclear is whether or not he actually purchased a gun.

A picture posted on the website for TMZ showed Zimmerman posing for a picture with a worker at the Kel-Tec weapons plant in Cocoa.

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/08/22/0822-george-zimmerman-kel-tec-tmz-3.jpg

According to the report, Zimmerman went to the facility asking about the KSG compact 12-guage tactical shotgun. He reportedly asked questions about the legality of buying a shotgun.

Zimmerman's brother, Robert, confirmed to Local 6.

"That is a real photo and it was taken today," said Robert. "I have no information, nor would I ever disclose any information as to whether or not George purchased the firearm in question. I own a shotgun similar to the one pictured and I am proud to be a responsible gun owner."

Kel-Tec is the same manufacturer that made Zimmerman's PF-9, the same game used to shoot and kill Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman's attorney said his client fears for his safety, despite being acquitted of second degree murder.

Zimmerman can legally own a gun, and it's already known that he once again owns one.

Just recently, Zimmerman was caught on a police dashcam telling a Texas cop that he had a gun in his glove box.

The company's website states it is "committed to the development and production of high-performance firearms," but that weapons are not sold there.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmerman-visits-local-gun-facility/-/1637132/21615222/-/5wq5ai/-/index.html


Zimmerman seems to be turning into an attention whore. He's deliberately put himself in the media spotlight several times since his acquittal. He's definitely not trying to keep a low profile.

I have no sympathy for him based on all the threats he's allegedly been getting. Smiling while looking at guns, and posing for photos to record that fact, is simply inviting more threats. If he's too stupid to realize that, or to care about that, he shouldn't complain about the kind of hate mail and threats he receives--he's asking for it.
hawkeye10
 
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Thu 22 Aug, 2013 11:30 pm
@firefly,
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George Zimmerman is an idiot. If he's so concerned about death threats, he shouldn't pose for smiling pictures while he's out gun-shopping. That's the sort of thing that's designed to inflame feelings toward him even more.

why should he care....you can think any nasty thought you want about him, that is your right, but you can't touch him.

THAT'S THE LAW BABY!

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Zimmerman seems to be turning into an attention whore.

What about all of those stories we read in the press about how he was scared and mentally unstable fearing for his life? You believed that and wanted it to be true didn't you?

SUCKER!

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I have no sympathy for him

Nobody cares.
revelette
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 08:37 am
@hawkeye10,
You are one belligerently bitter individual. Do you feel like you make your point better if you shout?

Firefly is right, Zimmerman seems to be craving the spotlight. Makes me kind of fearful of what he might do next.
firefly
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 09:16 am
@hawkeye10,
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What about all of those stories we read in the press about how he was scared and mentally unstable fearing for his life? You believed that and wanted it to be true didn't you?

SUCKER!

No, I never believed those stories, or really cared about them. It's been BillRM who has been carrying on about that--he's the sucker.

I do believe Zimmerman is mentally unstable though. I think his extremely poor judgment, and poor impulse control, is what led to the death of Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman's first legal defense team dropped him as a client because he wasn't taking their legal advice, he was acting erratically, and he was a loose canon who was behaving in ways that were contra to his best interests at the time. They clearly felt the man was not mentally stable, and they said so. And Mark O'Mara, who then took over the case, likely felt the same way when he discovered the elaborate plot Zimmerman and his wife engaged in to conceal their assets from the court, because they had deceived him and lied to him as well. Zimmerman is an unstable, untrustworthy, lying, manipulator, who has never been able to function well as an adult.

I personally don't give a damn what happens to George Zimmerman. He was a loser and a non-entity before he gained notoriety for killing an unarmed child, and it's rather pathetic how he's trying to hang on to the media spotlight now.
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BillRM
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 09:18 am
@revelette,
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Firefly is right, Zimmerman seems to be craving the spotlight. Makes me kind of fearful of what he might do next.


I myself had seen the hoodlum family on TV a lot more then Zimmerman or his family.
Baldimo
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 09:25 am
@firefly,
I guess you don't read to well do ya. It says right in the article that they do not sell guns at the manufacturing plant were he visited. It also doesn't sound like he is craving attention. TMZ reported he had been there and a local TV station called his family to confirm. That isn't seeking out the media, that is called the media invading his privacy. They are looking for stories to report about him, so people such as yourself can have that much more hate for Zimmerman.

That is a nice looking shotgun. 2 chambers for shells and a switch to use to change between them. I have looked at this same one for the home. Something my wife would be able to handle and not to big to move through the house with. Better than grand-pappies duck gun.
revelette
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 09:36 am
@Baldimo,
He asked about the gun and the legality of owning one at the plant he visited. He could have bought another sort of gun they do sell. He then posed in a picture at a manufacturing plant. Those are not the actions of a person wanting to keep a low profile because they are fearful.
Baldimo
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 09:37 am
@revelette,
I guess you prefer him to hide in a closet and not come out until people such as yourself have finished your hate cycle?
firefly
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 09:37 am
@BillRM,
Zimmerman's brother, Robert, can't let go of the media spotlight either--and his only claim to fame is being the brother of a notorious child killer.

Unlike Zimmerman, Martin's decent family hasn't killed anyone...and they are now working to bring about changes in the law. They have put their energy into trying to achieve something positive out of the tragedy of their son's death.

It must bother Zimmerman that it's his victim who is getting the most attention, and attention of a positive nature. Trayvon Martin's death and memory will continue to inspire a movement to effect political and social change, and it's Trayvon Martin who will be remembered long after George Zimmerman completely self-destructs, which is probably the direction he's headed in.

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revelette
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 09:41 am
@Baldimo,
He can do as he likes, but he is not hiding but posing for pictures in a gun manufactory. He has to know that is going get some media attention which more than likely was his intention.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 09:48 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:
He asked about the gun and the legality of owning one at the plant he visited.
He could have bought another sort of gun they do sell.
He NEEDS a decent gun; I recommend a 2 inch .44 special revolver loaded with hollowpointed slugs.
That was just a lucky shot, with his puny little 9mm automatic.




revelette wrote:
He then posed in a picture at a manufacturing plant.
Those are not the actions of a person wanting to keep a low profile because they are fearful.
Maybe he shud consider acquiring some target pistols,
for better accuracy in precision shooting.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 09:54 am
@BillRM,

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Firefly is right, Zimmerman seems to be craving the spotlight. Makes me kind of fearful of what he might do next.
BillRM wrote:
I myself had seen the hoodlum family on TV a lot more then Zimmerman or his family.
Very true.
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firefly
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 09:59 am
@Baldimo,
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I guess you prefer him to hide in a closet and not come out until people such as yourself have finished your hate cycle?

I don't care what Zimmerman does.

But if he chooses to continue to behave in ways that are provocative, he will only continue to incite more negative feelings about him. He's the one who will have to deal with the consequences of that, not me.

Zimmerman does provoke others, just as he provoked his first legal team to drop him, and just as he provoked the judge to blow up at him about concealing his assets and his second passport, and, at a time when he should really lay low for a while, and let public reaction toward him dissipate, he's continuing to behave in ways that provoke others into having negative feelings toward him. He's a reckless asshole. And he makes it very believable that he needlessly provoked Trayvon Martin that night, and instigated a totally unnecessary altercation, because that's his pattern of behavior.

Zimmerman is on a fast track to self-destruct. Just give him time...
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 10:18 am
@firefly,
I don't think Zimmerman has the mental capacity to understand what he has done wrong and continue to exacerbate his own negative image.



Baldimo
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 10:31 am
@cicerone imposter,
That's just it CI, others do not think he did wrong and we see no reason why he should hide for the next several years. It is people from your side of the fence who are making a big deal out of this. You can't accept the fact that Martin started the fight. Zimmerman didn't stay in his car, but he didn't have to. He wasn't under any obligation to stay in his car, he might have been advised but it wasn't an order he had to follow.

Martin didn't have to attack Zimmerman and people have to understand that Martin was the one who started the fight. Like a lot of teems these days, and we are seeing more and more stories of teens doing wrong, he thought he was invincible and could attack someone without anything happening to him. He saw "a crazy ass cracker" following him and thought he would teach him a lesson. Martin was the only one to express any sort of racism but the media had to alter 911 tapes and release less then clear pictures and video of Zimmerman's wounds to make it look as if he was totally at fault. The media is as much to blame if not more so than Zimmerman for the attention he has garnered. Why don't they just leave him alone and not post or write anything about him? They can't because they have to keep the anger fresh and ever present in the anti-gunners minds.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 10:36 am
@Baldimo,
You can't accept that Zimmerman had a gun, and followed an innocent child to kill him.

Trayvon did not commit any crime. There was no reason for anyone to follow him, pursue him, and kill him.

An innocent child was killed by mentally disturbed adult.
izzythepush
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 10:52 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
He saw "a crazy ass cracker"


Is that like a safe cracker?
Baldimo
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 10:54 am
@cicerone imposter,
That is where you are wrong. I can accept that Zimmerman had a gun, and I can accept he followed someone he thought was up to no good, due to there being a lot of break-in's in his neighborhood. What I don't accept is that he followed Martin just so he could kill him. That is where we differ on motive.

Trayvon committed the crime of assault. He attacked the "creepy ass cracker" who was following him. Teens these days can't have people disrespecting them like that, so that "creepy ass cracker" had to be taught a lesson. So he attacked Zimmerman not knowing Zimmerman had a gun and we all know the end result.

Trayvon was not an innocent child.
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 10:54 am
The “mentally disturbed adult” who did the killing is nothing compared with the mentally disturbed people who are defending his action…even if it means vilifying a young man whose main fault was to have the temerity to walk around the planet Earth while black.

Yes, Zimmerman bothers me…and I have trouble understanding how he can smile considering what he did. But the people defending him here with their disgusting arguments and accusations present a much greater problem for our society than that poor fool.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 11:07 am
@Baldimo,
If Zimmerman didn't follow Trayvon, he would still be alive.

Trayvon did not commit any crime. There was no need to follow him.

He followed and killed him.
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