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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
BillRM
 
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Mon 19 Aug, 2013 07:07 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
If I may paraphrase Patrick Henry:
If this be racism, let us make the most of it !


You are right that if it racism to defend your life from a black person who is trying to killed you so be it.

Somehow however I do not think that how Dr. King would have define racism even if it is how Jackson and Sharpton and now Firefly wish to define the word.
gungasnake
 
  -1  
Mon 19 Aug, 2013 07:13 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
He was not a thug.


Yeah, he WAS a thug. He died with two of the three ingredients of Purple-Drank (a kind of a ghetto alternative to PCP) on him, after being thrown out of school for possession of burglary tools and stolen jewelry and after being thrice booted from his mother's house, and in the process of trying to kill a neighborhood watch captain who was walking back to his car. About the only crime he wasn't guilty of was cattle rustling and he'd have gotten to that the first day anybody in that neighborhood ever bought a cow.
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gungasnake
 
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Mon 19 Aug, 2013 07:28 am
Elton John's take on the libtard version of Horst Wessel (from FR):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9eCVXKr4t4

Quote:


Trayvon wears his gold grill like a crown,
Call his child Skittles, cause he likes the name,
Suspended from the finest school in town.

Trayvon, Trayvon like his money,
makes alot they say.
Spends his days dealing, by the playground way.

He was born a bastard to a ho,
6 weeks past Christmas day.
When the New Tork Times says Clintons great,
Tracy Martin had a son today.

And he shall be Trayvon,
And he shall be a hood man.
And he shall be Trayvon,
in tradition with the family plan.
And he shall be Trayvon,
And he shall be a hood man.
......he shall be Trayvon.

Trayvon, steals womens jewelry all day,
His family business thrives.
Skittles blows up balloons all day,
Sits on the porch watching them fly.

And Skittles, wants to go to Venus,
and leave Trayvon far behind.
Take a balloon and go sailing,
while Trayvon, Trayvon slowly dies.

And he shall be Trayvon,
And he shall be a hood man.
And he shall be Trayvon,
in tradition with the family plan.
And he shall be Trayvon,
And he shall be a hood man.
......heeee shaaaall beeee TraaaaayyyyVVVVVVooooooonn.


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OmSigDAVID
 
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Mon 19 Aug, 2013 08:11 am
@BillRM,
DAVID wrote:
If I may paraphrase Patrick Henry:
If this be racism, let us make the most of it !
BillRM wrote:
You are right that if its racism to defend your life from a black
person who is trying to kill you so be it.

Somehow however I do not think that how Dr. King would have defined racism,
even if it is how Jackson and Sharpton and now Firefly wish to define the word.
I have no opinion concerning
whether he was distinct in principle from them or not.

I 'm pretty sure that Roy Innes, of the Congress of Racial Equality,
wud support anyone 's right to defend himself or his property from ANYONE else.

So far, with the blacks it has been strictly a matter of who 's ox is gored; nothing on principle.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Mon 19 Aug, 2013 08:34 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
He was not a thug. You are profiling.
Is there something RONG with that, Jack??
I don't think there is.



MontereyJack wrote:
You're absolutely blind to the volunimous evidence that shows Zimmerman went in with a totally mistaken
idea of what he was seeing and what Trayvon was in fact doing,
1. Lemme get this straight: u allege that there is "volunimous evidence" [sic]
that shows that travon was NOT casing houses for burglary
when Zimmy saw him (before he ran away) ??
What "volunimous evidence" is THAT ?

2. Even if we assume, for the nonce,
that travon was not casing houses in preparation for
future burglary, is there anything rong with Zimmy 's calling
the police to inquire into suspicious conduct?? I don't think there is.

Is there anything either legally rong or morally rong
with following travon WATCHING his movements,
from the perspective of defense from burglary ?
If u allege that there was a legal infraction, then please cite
to applicable statutory or judicial authority in support of your opinion.

If u allege that it was morally rong to watch and follow a suspected burglar,
then please cite to any respected moral philosopher
who reasons that it is rong to follow anyone OR to look at him. I look forward to your answer.





MontereyJack wrote:
and he killed Trayvon as a result of his preconceptions.
He killed that thug as a result of his beating
his head on the street
, as he had an absolute right to DO.

I suspect that in the final moments of his life,
travon learned the folly of incivility.
Politeness wud have saved his life.





MontereyJack wrote:
Your mind has never been open, David. It is not now.
Well, I understood the reasons that the police released Zimmy.
I was always aware that Zimmy was not going to commit murder
IN FRONT OF THE APPROACHING POLICE, whom he called.

U post foolishness.
Next u will tell me that Ruby did not shoot Oswald.
U shud be ashamed of posting such drivel.





David
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gungasnake
 
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Mon 19 Aug, 2013 08:49 am
@OmSigDAVID,
The real question here is this: are we supposed to believe that black people have now attained some sort of "special" status which makes them untouchable even when one of them goes crazy on drugs and tries to kill somebody?

What if the intended victim had been somebody like Rocky Marciano or Billy Conn instead of Zimmerman and Trayvon had been killed by a left hook to the liver or solar plexus, rather than a bullet?? Would these losers still be making the same stupid claim about somebody killing an "innocent child(TM)"?? I believe they would be.
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 19 Aug, 2013 08:54 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
So far, with the blacks it has been strictly a matter of who 's ox is gored; nothing on principle.


Is is the race baiters such as Sharpton and Jackson, Firefly and stupid people of whatever race that go along with them that are like that IE reverse racism however it is not blacks as a group.

Been more then one black person that was braved enough to stand up for Zimmerman in the face of death threats directed at anyone connected to him.


OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Mon 19 Aug, 2013 09:02 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
The real question here is this: are we supposed to believe that black people have now attained some sort of "special" status which makes them untouchable even when one of them goes crazy on drugs and tries to kill somebody?
In a defensive emergency situation (like Zimmy 's) we 've simply gotta do what we 've gotta do,
giving as much attention to the opinions of the blacks n leftists as thay DESERVE.



gungasnake wrote:
What if the intended victim had been somebody like Rocky Marciano or Billy Conn instead of Zimmerman and Trayvon had been killed by a left hook to the liver or solar plexus, rather than a bullet?? Would these losers still be making the same stupid claim about somebody killing an "innocent child(TM)"?? I believe they would be.
If a black security guard
had fallen victim to homicide by a white burglar,
I 'd oppose the white burglar, because (in theory) he 'd be a threat to ME, to anyone,
but those who have persecuted Zimmy in this forum
or in the real world are fanatically pro-black, no matter what.

This case never wud have been litigated if the fight had been
between 2 whites or 2 blacks; no one wud have cared, not Sharpton nor Obama.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Mon 19 Aug, 2013 09:06 am
@BillRM,
DAVID wrote:
So far, with the blacks it has been strictly a matter of who 's ox is gored; nothing on principle.
BillRM wrote:
Is is the race baiters such as Sharpton and Jackson, Firefly and stupid people of whatever race that go along with them that are like that IE reverse racism however it is not blacks as a group.
Maybe u r better informed than I am.
I have not seen any blacks stand up for self defense in this case.
Judging by my observation, ALL of the black commentators
were zealously anti-Zimmy. It was a racial polarization like
it was in the OJ trial.
BillRM
 
  0  
Mon 19 Aug, 2013 09:23 am
@OmSigDAVID,
You have the news media that are not going to carry such materials for the most part and then you have the deaths threats that help to suppress them speaking out.


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BillRM
 
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Mon 19 Aug, 2013 09:59 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Take note Firefly is ok with the government taking no actions against these assholes even those when it came to one similar death threat to Nancy Grace they found and arrested the man in a short time period.

Quote:


http://twitchy.com/2012/03/24/countless-death-threats-against-zimmerman-man-yet-proven-guilty/




They should give George Zimmerman a slow torture THEN death. Rape, amputate his limbs, pour some acid on his lips, taze him THEN kill him!!!




Posted below is a list of death threats against Zimmerman. Inhumane, disgusting actions in which people write about what they would do to him. Quite frankly, these people are the reason most of us lose faith in humanity. They’re a disappointment to this country and the men and women fighting for our lives overseas. Try to stomach these.


I would shoot Zimmerman in his asshole. have him shittin bullets and blood. THEN I'll turn him in.—
Ms. Doh (@DohNotJane) March 24, 2012


I think a cool meme would be for us all to kill George Zimmerman.—
ᏝᎯᎥᏁᏋᎩ (@hellnope) March 21, 2012


I'm going to seduce George Zimmerman (Trayvon's killer) & cut off his penis. Yup. That's MY action plan.—
Babe-raham Lincoln (@L_ExplainsItAll) March 20, 2012


Zimmerman needs his balls cut off & sent to his mamie! #straightup—
♥YHL (@SuchAFcknDIVA) March 22, 2012


I want Zimmerman dead. I would love to torture that man. Set fire to his skin/pour acid on him, and chop his penis off.—
Pretty Muthafuckaaa (@ArmedBeauty) March 19, 2012


And if those weren’t enough, here’s two against a man only trying to make sense of the situation, Geraldo Rivera.



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OmSigDAVID
 
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Mon 19 Aug, 2013 11:35 am

Again, just speaking of my own observation, Bill,
I have seen NO evidence of any black decency in this matter.
Thay are just mad that a white victim defeated a black predator.





David
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 19 Aug, 2013 12:01 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
gain, just speaking of my own observation, Bill,
I have seen NO evidence of any black decency in this matter.
Thay are just mad that a white victim defeated a black predator.



Sorry I do not see all blacks are of any one opinion as they are no more a solid group then whites or any other such classification of humans.

We have a filter here of the news media and the willingness of some blacks to issue death threats at a drop of a hat help along with the government on all levels not reacting against the people issuing those threats.

Now assuming Firefly is white we sure the hell do not agree with her outlook on life for example!!!!!!!!

OmSigDAVID
 
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Mon 19 Aug, 2013 12:44 pm
@BillRM,
DAVID wrote:
Again, just speaking of my own observation, Bill,
I have seen NO evidence of any black decency in this matter.
Thay are just mad that a white victim defeated a black predator.


BillRM wrote:
Sorry I do not see all blacks are of any one opinion
as they are no more a solid group then whites or any other such classification of humans.
In candor, I cannot agree.
In 1994, I was confirming a canvas of the voting machines
in a black area of Manhattan. I found several voting machines
with a few hundred votes recorded on them and 3 votes
recorded for the Republican Party. Some machines had a few hundred
recorded votes and no votes at all in favor of the Republican Party. 100% Democrat or socialist.
I have no reason to doubt that the machines were functioning properly.
It was black block voting. Thay had and have that right,
but I am not so naïve as to believe that it is otherwise.

We won the election anyway,
but we saw that we had no black support of any significance. We knew who our friends were not.





David
BillRM
 
  0  
Mon 19 Aug, 2013 12:53 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I have no reason to doubt that the machines were functioning properly.
It was black block voting. Thay had and have that right,
but I am not so naïve as to believe that it is otherwise.


Sorry but frankly blacks and Latins would need to be insane to vote for Republicans as the party had made it clear over decades that they neither care or wish for the support of either group.

It not group think it is instead enlighten self interest not one and the same thing at all.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Mon 19 Aug, 2013 01:00 pm
@BillRM,
DAVID wrote:
I have no reason to doubt that the machines were functioning properly.
It was black block voting. Thay had and have that right,
but I am not so naïve as to believe that it is otherwise.
BillRM wrote:
Sorry but frankly blacks and Latins would need to be insane to vote for Republicans
as the party had made it clear over decades that they neither care or wish for the support of either group.

It not group think it is instead enlighten self interest not one and the same thing at all.
OK, but let's know the situation for what it IS.
U posted b4:
BillRM wrote:
Sorry I do not see all blacks are of any one opinion
as they are no more a solid group then whites or any other such classification of humans.
gungasnake
 
  0  
Mon 19 Aug, 2013 04:42 pm
@BillRM,
Nothing Republicans have ever thought about doing to blacks has or could cause as much damage as the deal blacks have imagined themselves to have with the demoKKKrat party and, somewhere, sooner or later, black people in America are going to figure out how badly they're being used.
Baldimo
 
  1  
Mon 19 Aug, 2013 04:49 pm
@gungasnake,
Those cities that have been controlled by Dems for decades are doing awesome. The people who live there have never seen an age of such growth and prosperity.
BillRM
 
  0  
Mon 19 Aug, 2013 04:55 pm
@Baldimo,
I assume you are joking..............
Baldimo
 
  1  
Mon 19 Aug, 2013 04:59 pm
@BillRM,
I am indeed. Heavy dose of sarcasm was used in creating that post.
 

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