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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
gungasnake
 
  2  
Fri 16 Aug, 2013 07:10 pm

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Dershowitz-zimmerman-defamation/2013/07/15/id/515150

Quote:
Other noted legal experts also expressed their disgust at Corey’s remark, agreeing with Dershowitz that it could spur legal action by Zimmerman.

“That is shockingly inappropriate, unethical conduct by a prosecutor. And frankly, she might very well be sued for it — and properly so,” noted criminal attorney and CNN legal analyst Paul Callan told Steve Malzberg.

“Prosecutors get immunity when they’re acting within the scope of their employment as prosecutors. But appearing on a TV show doing a word association game is not going to give her immunity. Now that’s really stunning.”

Former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy said the “murderer” crack was “disgraceful … a reprehensible thing to do.”

Callan added he was surprised at the “sour grapes press conference” Florida prosecutors held after the acquittal.

“Usually, prosecutors are very dignified and they say we disagree with the jury, we’re disappointed in the verdict, but we respect the process. They did a very extensive press conference in which they really went after Zimmerman quite personally.”

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gungasnake
 
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Fri 16 Aug, 2013 07:12 pm
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/el-paso-tx/T5RELK12UEV67PRL8

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Renowned Harvard law professor, Alan Dershowitz, says that George Zimmerman should sue chief state prosecutor Angela Corey for defamation of character. His conclusion is based on some of her irresponsible statements after Zimmerman was found innocent on all charges.

Dershowitz further said that Corey should be disbarred for flagrant violations of the Rules of Discovery, specifically for withholding exculpatory evidence from the Defense Team of Zimmerman, and for other malfeasance during the course of the trial.

The coarse-featured, overweight Corey, who looks more like a bordello madam than a state prosecutor, implied, after getting her fat ass badly beaten during the trial, that she brought this case in order to “show both sides of the story.”

The FBI and other civil rights investigators had already examined "both sides" of the story, and most honest lawyers say that, if Corey had presented the case to a grand jury, it would have been no-billed, and the State of Florida would have saved a lot of money, not to mention the bad image the case gave Florida to objective outside observers. Angela Corey, who fired a subordinate state prosecutor for blowing the whistle on her failure to share evidence with the Defense, had access to all, and more, of the evidence of the Zimmerman trial jury, but her obvious agenda was not justice, but to flatter Obama and Holder in hopes of reaping the reward of a good job in the Justice Department. Don’t rule this out, even though she displayed her incompetence and willingness to violate the law and rules of evidence in the course of the trial.

http://therightscoop.com/boom-alan-dershowitz...

http://neoneocon.com/2013/07/16/yes-zimmerman...
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firefly
 
  1  
Fri 16 Aug, 2013 07:43 pm
@gungasnake,
What's amusing gunga, is that you think Zimmerman still has a reputation that could be damaged or defamed, any more than it already is, by anything anyone says? Laughing What do you think a court would award him for claiming he was defamed by Corey calling him a murderer? Laughing How would he prove he was damaged? Laughing

Too many people agree that he's a murderer--the jury verdict just helped him escape legal consequences, but it really didn't change a lot of people's minds regarding what they think of him. He has no reputation or character left to protect--he's a child killer and a liar. And his wife's upcoming perjury trial will help to remind everyone of that.
BillRM
 
  0  
Fri 16 Aug, 2013 08:07 pm
Here are a hell of lot of real children that Firefly and Sharpton and Jackson do not give a **** about as their deaths can not be spin into some racial Fantasy.

Zimmerman/Trayvon case got more press then all the below children deaths all together.

Footnote you have not seen anything yet as shortly a hell of a lot of innocent children unlike Trayvon will be needing to walk a great deal further due to school closings crossing street gangs borders.

Quote:


http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/08/chicago.children.slain/index.html


So far this school year, 36 children and teens have been murdered -- more than one a week -- and Pfleger is among a chorus of weary Chicagoans who say the slayings aren't getting the attention they deserve.

Had 36 kids died of swine flu this year, "there would be this great influx of resources that say, 'Let's stop this, lets deal with this,' " Pfleger said.

Instead, because violence is driving the epidemic, "We're hiding it. We're ignoring it. We're denying the problems," he said.

Pfleger is not the first Chicagoan to express the sentiment. In 2007, after the city recorded 31 murdered children during the school year, Arne Duncan, then-CEO of public schools, expressed similar disappointment. Video Watch why the violence seems worse now »

Duncan, who now serves as President Obama's secretary of education, said "all hell would break loose" if these killings took place in one of the metro area's upscale enclaves.

"If that happened to one of Chicago's wealthiest suburbs -- and God forbid it ever did -- if it was a child being shot dead every two weeks in Hinsdale or Winnetka or Barrington, do you think the status quo would remain? There's no way it would," he said.

Yet the problem has only worsened since Duncan publicly shared his observation. With about a month left in the school year, Chicago's public schools have topped the number of students slain in the 2007-2008 and 2006-2007 school years -- 27 and 31, respectively.

One of the most disturbing slayings came last week when the family of Alex Arellano found the 15-year-old's body. He had been beaten, burned and shot in the head.

"It's sad because they didn't have to torture him that way. He never did nothing wrong, never. He was a good kid. It just gets to me. It's crazy," Alex's friend Ashley Recendez said. Video Watch friends, family describe Alex »

Indeed, police say the teen had no criminal record, no gang affiliation. His family says he was well-behaved and shy, almost fearful of strangers. They had recently taken him out of school to protect him after gang members threatened him.

He was last seen May 1, leaving his girlfriend's house. His girlfriend told his family that several young men chased him and beat him with baseball bats. She didn't know why.

The family found his brutalized body in an alley the next day, which at the time made Alex the 34th child slain this school year in the city, according to an unofficial tally kept by the Chicago Tribune.

"Why would they do this to a child that has nothing to do with nothing, and just, on top of that, brutally killing him?" asked Alex's uncle Juan Tirado.

Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis said scuffles among youth have become more violent and a conflict that 20 years ago would have warranted a pushing or wrestling match now sometimes results in gunfire.

"There's simply too many gangs, too many guns and too many drugs on the streets," he said. "We've got a problem with some of our young people are resorting to use of weapons and violence to solve any type of conflicts they may have." Video Watch how police try to fight gangs »

Weis said he concurred with Duncan's remarks from two years ago and bemoaned that society had become desensitized, almost to the point of acceptance, by the violence in some of America's major cities.

"That is a very sad state of affairs," he said. Video Watch how Chicago is struggling with the violence »

But not all officials are convinced the level of violence against children is unique to Chicago.

Mayor Richard Daley said the numbers appear worse in his city because the public school system considers teenagers students even after they drop out.

"The rest of America doesn't count them. You're a dropout forever. We don't think they're dropouts. They're students," he said.

He further said Chicago's problems are no worse than those in any other American city.

"It's all over, the same thing," he said. "You go to a large city or small city, it's all over America. It's not unique to one community or one city."

Despite Daley's remarks, CNN has learned that none of the city's 36 victims this year was a dropout.

Also, Daley's statistics on the number of youths killed in other cities don't appear to match reports from American cities.

Los Angeles, California, notorious for its gang problems, is larger than Chicago. It has reported only 23 child slayings this school year. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, is about half the size of Chicago, but it has witnessed only a ninth of the child slayings: four this school year.

In 2007, Diane Latiker, founder of the community group Kids Off the Block, began a memorial on a vacant lot in Chicago. She bought 30 landscaping stones and wrote the name of a slain school-age child on each of them.

Her hopes were that the stark sight of the memorial would shock the city into action.

Today, the memorial includes 153 stones, some for children as young as 10, and there is little indication the pace is waning, as at least two children were killed since Alex Arellano's body was found Saturday.

"They come by here and they do this, and they come by here in cars and families come and cry," Latiker said of the burgeoning memorial.

Asked who was failing the kids -- police? schools? city officials? -- she replied flatly, "We all are."

Other community activists said they're at a loss to find any simple explanation. In May 2007, public outrage overflowed after the death of 16-year-old Blair Holt, an honor student and aspiring songwriter.

According to various media reports, Holt was riding a city bus when a gunfight erupted between two gang members. Holt tried to shield a young girl who was in the line of fire and was fatally shot in the stomach.

His death sparked public protests, and grieving family and activists listed a host of scapegoats: lax gun laws, insufficient policing, bad parenting. But two years later, families and activists say they're tired and discouraged by the torpid pace of change.

Lakeesha Stevens, whose son was shot as he slept in the car last year, said, "It can happen to anyone... you can be walking, you can be anywhere."

Fortunately, Martrell Stevens survived the shooting, but kindergarten proved a lot tougher for the youngster after the bullet left him partially paralyzed.

Weis said Chicago police work tirelessly to keep the violence out of the schools, and he expressed relief that the city is "providing a safe place for our young folks to learn."

However, he acknowledged that the conflicts sometimes begin in the schools and are finished off-campus. The violence will continue to be a priority for Chicago police, he said.

"I can promise you the Chicago Police Department is outraged and we will continue to work these cases with high energy and a great deal of enthusiasm," he said. E-mail to a friend E-mail to a friend | Mixx it | Share
CNN's Abbie Boudreau and Ismael Estrada contributed to this report.

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gungasnake
 
  2  
Fri 16 Aug, 2013 08:33 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Too many people agree that he's a murderer-...



You left out an adjective...

"Too many STUPID people agree...."
firefly
 
  0  
Fri 16 Aug, 2013 08:34 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Here are a hell of lot of real children that Firefly and Sharpton and Jackson do not give a **** about as their deaths can not be spin into some racial Fantasy.

The issue with Trayvon Martin's death is racial profiling.

And your own posts, which are saturated with racist attitudes, repeatedly demonstrate just how tinged with racism this case is.

Unfortunately, neither Sharpton, Jackson, nor I, need to spin any fantasies with this one--sadly, the racial elements are clear, which is why 86% of the black community disagreed with the verdict, and why President Obama said, "I could have been Trayvon Martin 35 years ago".

Given where your head is at, it's clear why you can't understand the real issue with this case.
http://www.adrants.com/images/head_up_ass.jpg
firefly
 
  1  
Fri 16 Aug, 2013 08:54 pm
Quote:
Stand up for Trayvon Martin by amending ‘stand your ground’
By Benjamin L. Crump,
Friday, August 16

Benjamin L. Crump is lead attorney for the family of Trayvon Martin.

As I travel the country, many people tell me they wish they had been on the jury in the criminal trial of the shooting death of Trayvon Martin. I tell them that although they did not have a vote in those proceedings, they do have a vote in establishing Trayvon’s legacy.

This vote, your vote, will be historic. It starts when you sign the Change.org petition by Trayvon’s family to amend “stand-your-ground” laws in 21 of the 31 states where they are on the books http://www.change.org/petitions/change-for-trayvon-stand-your-ground-laws-must-be-reviewed.
It continues when you cast your vote in the 2014 midterm elections and each election cycle beyond until we make history by passing a Trayvon Martin amendment to the stand-your-ground laws in every state that has them. These actions will make you part of new voting bloc: The Trayvon Martin voter.

Trayvon Martin voters have the potential to become a critical mass influencing several important issues, including stand-your-ground laws, racial-profiling laws and stop-and-frisk policies. Typically, the voter turnout in midterm elections is dramatically diminished from presidential-election years. We can, however, make sure that in the upcoming midterm election Democrats, Republicans and independents across the country turn out to vote for Trayvon Martin amendments. Trayvon voters have a clear cause: capturing the passion over the devastating verdict returned in the trial of George Zimmerman and transforming these feelings into actions that can and will make a difference.

Simply put, this is your chance to vote for Trayvon.

Why is it critical to amend stand-your-ground laws? The Trayvon Martin amendments are common-sense legislation that would alter such laws to prevent the initial aggressor in a confrontation from being able to later claim self-defense. Stand-your-ground laws were not enacted to allow aggressors the opportunity to get away with murdering an innocent person, although this is, unfortunately, what has happened. Law enforcement officers initially cited Florida’s stand-your-ground law in their refusal to arrest Trayvon’s killer, Zimmerman, in February 2012. In large part, this law permitted Trayvon’s killer to walk out of the courtroom and back into society. Passing these amendments would prevent this type of tragedy and protect others, especially children, from being profiled, pursued and killed by aggressors.

In asking the United States to start a conversation about the tragic circumstances of Trayvon’s death, President Obama expressed his concerns and the need to review stand-your-ground laws. Sen. John McCain and other prominent Republicans have joined Obama in questioning stand-your-ground statutes. Even former Florida governor Jeb Bush, the Republican who signed the state’s stand-your-ground legislation into law, has voiced concerns. Regarding the shooting of Trayvon, Bush said in March 2012, “ ‘Stand your ground’ means stand your ground. It doesn’t mean chase after somebody who’s turned their back.”

Throughout history, positive change has come from tragedy. Society has learned that with time and through action, protests and national movements, change is possible. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 began in large part because of the brutal murder of another unarmed black teenager, Emmett Till, in Money, Miss., in 1955. It took nearly a decade before this tragedy resulted in the passage of the historic civil rights legislation. Emmett’s mother, Mamie Till Mobley, eventually got to see something positive emerge from something very painful: an acknowledgment that her son’s death was not in vain.

The 1963 murder of Medgar Evers, another unarmed African American, led to positive change. During his life as an activist, Evers organized voter registration campaigns, demonstrations and boycotts to end Jim Crow laws in Jackson, Miss. His death was an influence for the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

Even as we fight today for change, and may expect it to manifest immediately, it is important to understand that this process will take time. We should not, however, allow that to be a discouragement. We Trayvon voters must maintain a united front against stand- your- ground laws and continue to fight even at times when our efforts feel overlooked. No matter how seemingly impossible the task, if Trayvon voters remain steadfast, Trayvon’s parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, will eventually see something positive come out of something very painful : an acknowledgment that their son’s death was not in vain.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/stand-up-for-trayvon-martin-by-amending-stand-your-ground/2013/08/16/be0cc858-035e-11e3-9259-e2aafe5a5f84_story.html
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BillRM
 
  1  
Fri 16 Aug, 2013 09:22 pm
@gungasnake,
Quote:
"Too many STUPID people agree...."


It go beyond just stupid people as there are very bright people like Sharpton and Firefly that are without morals that know far better but are selling this nonsense to the stupid people for their own reasons.

Sad as it take attentions away from real problems that are costing lives that should had been deal with twenty years ago.
firefly
 
  0  
Fri 16 Aug, 2013 10:00 pm
@BillRM,
http://memecrunch.com/meme/GXOC/cant-tell-if-head-up-ass/image.png
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firefly
 
  0  
Fri 16 Aug, 2013 10:40 pm
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That assertion of justice for all — in Sanford and throughout the United States — has been challenged, though, by a progression of events that began so innocently, so ordinarily: A teenage boy in a gray hooded sweatshirt leaves a 7-Eleven’s neon brightness with his purchase of some candy and an iced tea, and heads back into the wet Sunday evening of Feb. 26, back to a residential complex with a forbidding gate and a comforting name.

Trayvon Martin was more than welcome there; he was expected.

With his hood up as the rain came down, Trayvon made his way to one gated community among many, the Retreat at Twin Lakes. Past a dozen storefronts, four of them vacant. Past signs and billboards shouting “Now Leasing!” and “Rent Specials!” His was a tour of a post-bust stretch of Sanford.

For more than two years now, Trayvon’s father, Tracy Martin, a truck driver from Miami, had been dating Brandy Green, a juvenile detention officer in Orlando. She lived at the Retreat with her 14-year-old son, Chad, and it was not uncommon for the Martins to drive up from Miami for overnight visits.

...Trayvon was interested in girls, computer games, sports and the beat of the rap and hip-hop emanating from the ear buds of his smartphone. Sleeping in Miami Dolphins bedsheets, he was all teenage boy, and more.

He called himself “Slimm” on Twitter, and used a handle, @no_limit_nigga, that echoed a song by the rappers Kane & Abel. On Facebook, he expressed interest in airplanes and “South Park”; Bob Marley and LeBron James. On MySpace, he posted snapshots of his young life: admiring an airplane; fishing with his father; displaying a cake decorated with the words “Happy Birthday Tray.”

Easygoing, with a default mood set at “chillin’,” as one schoolmate, Suzannah Charles, put it. The kind of kid who made tiny cakes in an Easy-Bake Oven with his 7-year-old cousin; who spoon-fed a close uncle, Ronald Fulton, who is quadriplegic, when his nurse was unavailable; who was an integral part of a close-knit family — raised properly, family members say, by Mr. Martin and his ex-wife, Sybrina Fulton, who works for Miami-Dade County’s housing agency.

Ms. Green described him as the kind of kid who did not bring attitude into a house, and who knew how to behave respectfully in the homes of others. “He was smooth, quiet,” she said. “He took care of his appearance. He had swag.”

But Trayvon was a teenager, not an angel. In his last year at his high school in north Miami-Dade County, he had received three suspensions — for tardiness, for graffiti and, most recently, for having a baggie with a trace of marijuana in his backpack.

This last suspension, for 10 days, was enough for Trayvon’s father, who stayed on top of him about his whereabouts and middling grades; after all, he wanted to go to college, just like his quiet older brother, Jahvaris Fulton, 21, a student at Florida International University.

Mr. Martin said that he had taken Trayvon with him to Sanford to keep him from hanging around Miami, doing nothing, and to talk some sense into him.

These recent problems, all nonviolent, hardly reflected the essence of Trayvon Martin, his family and friends say. He was kindhearted, even-tempered and very thoughtful. That night, for example, while his father and Ms. Green were out having dinner in Orlando, Trayvon asked Chad, Ms. Green’s son, if he wanted anything from the store.

Skittles, the younger boy said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/02/us/trayvon-martin-shooting-prompts-a-review-of-ideals.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.bet.com/topics/t/trayvon-martin/_jcr_content/topicintro.topicintro.dimg/031512-national-trayvon-martin-murder-goes-to-florida-state-attorney.jpg
hawkeye10
 
  3  
Fri 16 Aug, 2013 11:32 pm
@firefly,
justice for all was gone when the state decided to abuse the justice system to get those who they wanted to get. It started out with gang members, drug users and sexual deviants but as we see by the court approved violations of the Constitution by the NSA against all of us the abuse has grown.
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Fri 16 Aug, 2013 11:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawk, Your comments are out of place here. You never cease to amaze me with your tangents on things that has no meaning to the topic of this thread.
hawkeye10
 
  2  
Fri 16 Aug, 2013 11:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

hawk, Your comments are out of place here. You never cease to amaze me with your tangents on things that has no meaning to the topic of this thread.

very in place actually.....too many dont give a damn about justice, they only want what they want and complain that "justice is not being done" when they dont get what they want. most americans would not recognize justice if it bit them in the ass, and so the screeds about how there was no justice for a 17 year old wantabe hoodlum are a joke.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  3  
Sat 17 Aug, 2013 02:03 am
@firefly,
Quote:
Here are a hell of lot of real children that Firefly and Sharpton and Jackson do not give a **** about as their deaths
can not be spin into some racial Fantasy.
firefly wrote:
The issue with Trayvon Martin's death is racial profiling.
There was nothing rong with that.
Shud thay have been looking for German burglary gangs in Sanford, Florida?
Did the Irish break in on the beauteous Olivia, hiding behind her scissors ?
or the Chinese ?
U hunt where the ducks are.



firefly wrote:
And your own posts, which are saturated with racist attitudes,
repeatedly demonstrate just how tinged with racism this case is.
Indeed. Yes. Sharpton & his pal, Obama wud have left Zimmy alone,
if he were a black. Thay don't get mad at blacks that kill one another in bar brawls.

The case was 1OO% racial.
BillRM
 
  0  
Sat 17 Aug, 2013 04:00 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
There was nothing rong with that.
Shud thay have been looking for German burglary gangs in Sanford, Florida?
Did the Irish break in on the beauteous Olivia, hiding behind her scissors ?
or the Chinese ?
U hunt where the ducks are.


There is no indication that Zimmerman was focus on Trayvon skin color and you can see that by the 911 tape however if there was reports that Zimmerman was aware of that black young men where breaking into homes what indeed is wrong in paying more attention to blacks teens acting strangely then non-blacks?

Hell by Firefly logic or lack of same if there was reports of an albinal breaking into homes and Zimmerman saw an albinal person walking slowly in the rain looking at homes it would be wrong to "profile" that person for extra attention.

.
spendius
 
  1  
Sat 17 Aug, 2013 08:29 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
I am feelings very good myself for sending a few hundreds dollars check to Zimmerman defense fund.


WOW!! That's real talk.
gungasnake
 
  1  
Sat 17 Aug, 2013 08:50 am
@spendius,
I sent them $20, and they seem to have used it pretty well.

The real fun starts when some of these suits against Angela Corey kick in. Alan Dershowitz says that she has no immunity for that insane statement she made on the talk show after the verdict.
BillRM
 
  0  
Sat 17 Aug, 2013 09:01 am
@gungasnake,
Quote:
The real fun starts when some of these suits against Angela Corey kick in. Alan Dershowitz says that she has no immunity for that insane statement she made on the talk show after the verdict.


Do not forget CBS who edit the 911 tape to show Zimmerman in a bad light. That should be good for a few million dollars settlement or more.

I did wonder, at the time if Firefly was working for CBS as she to had been known to do bad faith editing of that kind.

Wish to hell that Trayvon family would sue so the true picture of this smiling "14" years old would come out to everyone not just the people who take the time to do the research on this hoodlum what to be.
Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Sat 17 Aug, 2013 09:07 am
Gotta repeat myself here:

I can actually feel a bit of compassion for George Zimmerman. He screwed up big time…and his screw up lead to a tragedy. I could even suppose if he had it to do over again, he would have acted differently and prevented the unnecessary killing of Trayvon Martin.

But the people defending him and his actions have sunk to a level that is low even for the Internet…which is not that easy to do.

I do not wish anyone bad luck, but people like Bill, Gunga, David, Hawkeye and some of the others really deserve a healthy dose of reality injected into their lives. Their lack of humanity is appalling and dehumanizing. While I would never wish any of them misfortune, I certainly would not lament any life lessons that come their way to teach them how unfair life is…especially under the circumstances that lead Trayvon to his unfortunate death.


BillRM
 
  0  
Sat 17 Aug, 2013 09:07 am
@gungasnake,
Quote:
I sent them $20, and they seem to have used it pretty well.


Do you think for donating those funds, in Zimmerman time of need, if we could ask for an autograph picture of the man?

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