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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 03:17 pm
@spendius,
The idea I've always had was that when you're talking about freedom, economics was relatively unimportant. Granted I haven't gotten into owning really expensive skeet guns yet...

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/357384000/357384884/pix446503414.jpg
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gungasnake
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 03:18 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
David,

Have you ever heard the name "Pavlik Morozov" (the Stalinist version of Trayvon)?
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hawkeye10
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 03:20 pm
@firefly,
if 17 year olds are allowed to pack then I want 17 year olds to be allowed to smoke and drink as well as sexual freedom at 15 years old.

I dont see it happening.
spendius
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 03:20 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
There was a time when the English valued (relative) freedom.
Thay were proud of it.


The use of "relative" renders the statement meaningless.

"One has merely to declare oneself free, and one feels the moment to be conditioned. But if one has the courage to declare oneself conditioned, then one has the feeling of being free".

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.

Do you not like the thought of having been conditioned Dave? Aaaaw shucks. What a shame. Does boring everybody to death with emphatic declarations of how free you are compensate for being as un-free as a puppet and just as unaware of who pulls the strings?

I think that your twee shibboleth is infantile.

We are not strapped in the Constitution pram.
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BillRM
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 03:31 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
if 17 year olds are allowed to pack then I want 17 year olds to be allowed to smoke and drink as well as sexual freedom at 15 years old.

I dont see it happening.


Maybe Firefly is changing her mind about young people being sexual beings as she had not condemn Trayvon for having naked pictures of underage females.

So there might be hope for her after all.
firefly
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 03:36 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Maybe Firefly is changing her mind about young people being sexual beings as she had not condemn Trayvon for having naked pictures of underage females.

You're bringing up child pornography again???

You are really a sick pervert. Your obsession with child pornography is quite creepy...like most things about you.
revelette
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 03:40 pm
@firefly,
agreed
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BillRM
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 04:17 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
you're bringing up child pornography again???

You are really a sick pervert. Your obsession with child pornography is quite creepy...like most things about you.


You mean like Trayvon a pedophile indeed by your own standards not mine.

Strange how you are so willing to overlook that aspect of saint Trayvon is it not?

Of course if you are willing to white wash an assault/attempt murder a few illegal underage naked pictures hardly matter now does it?

Hypocritic my name is Firefly............
spendius
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 05:13 pm
@BillRM,
Hey Bill--you have been asked about the economic benefits to the USA of 300.000,000 guns in circulation.

Anybody can answer easy questions. Don't get carried away just because ff is pitching slow lobs.
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 06:18 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Boy, you really are stupid! The reason those black people got involved in the Martin case is because "they are black." They still suffer from ignorance such as yours, and it's up to Americans to stand up for those black kids who are killed needlessly by whites.

The struggles for blacks in America has been the longest in history.

People like you wouldn't understand, because of your own ignorance and racial bigotry.
BillRM
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 07:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
They still suffer from ignorance such as yours, and it's up to Americans to stand up for those black kids who are killed needlessly by whites.


The numbers of killings by whites of blacks is a tiny tiny tiny percent of the killings that are the main cause of black young men deaths.

Next real racial motivated white killings of blacks not such killings as Zimmerman legal act of self defense is such a small percent of that tiny tiny percent that you would need an electron microscope to find them.

See that mountain of dead young men CI that are the results of drugs and gangs perhaps addressing that mountain might be a good idea before dealing with an almost non existing mold hill of whites racists killing blacks.

cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 07:53 pm
@BillRM,
You're even more stupid than David. Quit while you're behind. You only provide more fodder for your stupidity and ignorance.
BillRM
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 08:01 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
Hey Bill--you have been asked about the economic benefits to the USA of 300.000,000 guns in circulation.


Freedoms and the means to maintain it is never a matter of economic take your wonderful country running rough house over the Irish with throwing people in prison without charges and doing fun things like legal torture and all in modern times

Now suppose instead of a fairly small amount of firearms and IEDs there was on average three firearms for every adult man and woman in Ireland?

You gentlemen would had let Ireland faster then you let New Orleans after Jackson got done with you.
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 08:08 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I've not read your post, but here's a clue: think the holocaust.

That's whites killing whites in a period of less than seven years. Some say 6-million Jews and Poles were killed by "whites."

Ever study about Napoleon? How about Alexander the Great? Lenin?

Ever hear of Newtown? Probably not.

You're too ******* ignorant to know anything with your calcified brain.

BillRM
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 08:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
LOL would you like to consider the millions repeat millions killed in tribal warfare in African?

Hint it was not whites killing whole peoples men women and children.

Quote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide

Rwandan Genocide
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rwandan Genocide


Attack type Genocide, mass murder
Deaths 500,000–1,000,000[1]
Perpetrators Hutu-led government
The Rwandan Genocide was a genocidal mass slaughter of the Tutsis by the Hutus that took place in 1994 in the East African state of Rwanda. It is considered the best organized genocide of the 20th century.[2] Over the course of approximately 100 days (from the assassination of Juvénal Habyarimana and Cyprien Ntaryamira on April 6 through mid-July) over 500,000 people were killed, according to a Human Rights Watch estimate.[3] Estimates of the death toll have ranged from 500,000–1,000,000,[1] or as much as 20% of the country's total population. It was the culmination of longstanding ethnic competition and tensions between the minority Tutsi, who had controlled power for centuries, and the majority Hutu peoples, who had come to power in the rebellion of 1959–62.[4]

In 1990, the Rwandan Patriotic Front, a rebel group composed mostly of Tutsi refugees, invaded northern Rwanda from Uganda in an attempt to defeat the Hutu-led government. They began the Rwandan Civil War, fought between the Hutu regime, with support from Francophone Africa and France,[5][6] and the RPF, with support from Uganda. This exacerbated ethnic tensions in the country. In response, many Hutu gravitated toward the Hutu Power ideology, with the prompting of state-controlled and independent Rwandan media.

As an ideology, Hutu Power asserted that the Tutsi intended to enslave the Hutu and must be resisted at all costs. Continuing ethnic strife resulted in the rebels' displacing large numbers of Hutu in the north, plus periodic localized Hutu killings of Tutsi in the south. International pressure on the Hutu-led government of Juvénal Habyarimana resulted in a cease-fire in 1993. He planned to implement the Arusha Accords.

The assassination of Habyarimana in April 1994 set off a violent reaction, during which Hutu groups conducted mass killings of Tutsis (and also pro-peace Hutus, who were portrayed as "traitors" and "collaborators"). This genocide had been planned by members of the Hutu power group known as the Akazu, many of whom occupied positions at top levels of the national government; the genocide was supported and coordinated by the national government as well as by local military and civil officials and mass media. Alongside the military, primary responsibility for the killings themselves rests with two Hutu militias that had been organized for this purpose by political parties: the Interahamwe and Impuzamugambi, although once the genocide was underway a great number of Hutu civilians took part in the murders. It was the end of the peace agreement. The Tutsi RPF restarted their offensive, defeating the army and seizing control of the country.

Rwanda today has two public holidays commemorating the incident, with Genocide Memorial Day on April 7 marking the start, and Liberation Day on July 4 marking the end. The week following April 7 is designated an official week of mourning.[7]

One global impact of the Rwandan Genocide is that it served as impetus to the creation of the International Criminal Court, so that ad hoc tribunals would not need to be created for future incidents of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.[8] The Rome Statute is the treaty that established the ICC, and was adopted at a diplomatic conference in Rome on 17 July 1998.[9]

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firefly
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 08:21 pm
@BillRM,
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You mean like Trayvon a pedophile indeed by your own standards not mine.

Your lies about Trayvon Martin continue to get more and more outrageous.

You are the person who was profiled as a pedophile, by other adults who were distressed by the way they saw you engaging young children in a park, using kittens as a lure, and they had you removed from the park.

And it was Zimmerman whose cousin has accused him of sexually molesting her for a period of 10 years, beginning when she was 6 years old.

You have some weird prurient interest in what kind of photos Martin might have had on his cell phone, and your fascination with the possible private sexual fantasies of this 16 year old boy is just sick. You've never seen what he had on his cell phone--that material was never released because it is totally irrelevant and unrelated to anything about his death.

I have no interest, at all, in anything Trayvon Martin had on his cell phone.

But I cringe at the thought of the sort of stuff you likely have stored on your computer--material you've repeatedly said you keep so heavily encoded that the government would never be able to access it.

Sorry, the pedophile label would be more accurately applied to you, or Zimmerman, so stop trying to drag the reputation of a dead child into your sordid crap. Trayvon Martin was not a sexual deviant.

Your continued obsession with child pornography and child molestation is sick--you really can't stop bringing those topics up in this thread. And you continue to be quite creepy--which is also the way Trayvon Martin described Zimmerman that night.

And your love of talking about methods of killing people is equally sick--and even more disgusting.
firefly
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 08:23 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Freedoms and the means to maintain it is never a matter of economic...


http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/125/2013/01/17/125743_600.jpg
BillRM
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 08:29 pm
@firefly,
SO naked pictures of underage females are ok with you as long as Trayvon have them.................

Then again assault and attempted murder is ok with you also as long as Trayvon was the attacker.

Love you my very sick friend who would overlook all facts and common sense and logic to paint a fantasy of a poor innocent child and an evil white gun nut coldly ending the life of this innocent smiling child due to the child skin color.

Zimmerman must had been a racist killer as otherwise he would had allowed Trayvon to killed him.
gungasnake
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 08:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Boy, you really are stupid! The reason those black people got involved in the Martin case is because "they are black." They still suffer from ignorance such as yours, and it's up to Americans to stand up for those black kids who are killed needlessly by whites.


Assuming there ARE such cases, then fabricating a case like this one is basically like crying wolf when there ain't no wolf anywhere around. Some day some innocent black kid might actually be murdered by a white person and nobody will want to hear about it.
firefly
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 08:47 pm
@BillRM,
http://www.adrants.com/images/head_up_ass.jpg
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