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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 10:00 am
@firefly,
Quote:
Those Founders also kept people who were Trayvon Martin's color as slaves, bought and sold them as livesock


Why would anybody knowingly purchase a doped-out burglar??

Face it, firefly, you wouldn't have been able to give Trayvon Martin away in 1750.
firefly
 
  1  
Wed 14 Aug, 2013 10:03 am
@gungasnake,
http://global3.memecdn.com/Does-you-ass-ever-get-jealous-of-all-the-****-that-comes-out-of-your-mouth_o_114627.jpg
gungasnake
 
  2  
Wed 14 Aug, 2013 10:28 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Just when I thought this thread could not get any more bizarre...Gunga comes up with those two gems.


Face it, Apoosa, anybody who wants to put Shelly Zimmerman in prison for trying to keep her husband out of it is basically a Nazi.

My advice: If you're going to be a Nazi, don't act ashamed of it, be proud of what you are:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01387/neo-nazi-back_1387347i.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4hLU8ex6BL79TgZabVi6ewXkpx_yvKkUy6QqiSh4_a70_DEuq
BillRM
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 10:44 am
@gungasnake,
Quote:
Face it, firefly, you wouldn't have been able to give Trayvon Martin away in 1750.


The punishment for slaves in the colonies that seriously misbehavior was commonly to be sold to work the sugar cane fields in the Caribbean where the average life span was roughly three years.

Haiti would run through 30 thousands repeat 30 thousands slaves a year!
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 10:57 am
@firefly,
Don't waste your time on these Zimmerman apologists who have greater imagination than Disney. They create situations about this case that's not even been shown during the trial.

It's scary that we have people like "these" who serve on our juries; they ignore all the evidence to create their own stories about what happened to benefit the accused.

There were two tragedies on this case; 1. the SYG law in Florida, and 2. the revelation that we have idiots who believe they know better than the evidence provided during the trial.
Baldimo
 
  2  
Wed 14 Aug, 2013 10:58 am
@firefly,
Funny how you post a video of a black guy who is a spokesman for the NRA. Didn't you spend quite a bit if time talking about how the NRA is a racist organization?

By the way, why the hang up with Zimmerman ID'ing himself? Was he under obligation to do so? Please explain this hang up you have.
gungasnake
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 11:04 am
@BillRM,
Most Americans are not aware of this.

It was only in the US that African slaves ever lived well enough to breed and become self sustaining. The 85% of the Africans coming to the New World in slave ships who ended up in the Caribbean and/or Central or South America were worked to death and replaced in a continual cycle. They didn't even bring women to those places other than for the tiny numbers needed for sewing and a few tasks of that nature.
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 11:06 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

Quote:
Just when I thought this thread could not get any more bizarre...Gunga comes up with those two gems.


Face it, Apoosa, anybody who wants to put Shelly Zimmerman in prison for trying to keep her husband out of it is basically a Nazi.

My advice: If you're going to be a Nazi, don't act ashamed of it, be proud of what you are:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01387/neo-nazi-back_1387347i.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4hLU8ex6BL79TgZabVi6ewXkpx_yvKkUy6QqiSh4_a70_DEuq


Ahhh...so you think a wife should commit crimes in order to keep her husband out of prison.

Interesting thinking...if you don't mind my calling it that.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 14 Aug, 2013 11:12 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
who serve on our juries; they ignore all the evidence to create their own stories about what happened to benefit the accused.


What evidence did this jury of six women five that had have children overlook?
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firefly
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 11:18 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
The punishment for slaves in the colonies that seriously misbehavior was commonly to be sold to work the sugar cane fields in the Caribbean where the average life span was roughly three years.


Tell us again how those white Founding Fathers, and slave owners, were concerned with human rights, and the preservation of liberties.

The punishment now, for an unarmed black kid, who dares to defend himself from an unstable gun-toting vigilante, who profiled and stalked him, appears to be death. And, since you've called that kid "a piece of ****", you're as racist as any KKK member in your lack of regard for the worth of a black life.

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/white%20racism.jpg
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firefly
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 11:22 am
@Baldimo,
Quote:
By the way, why the hang up with Zimmerman ID'ing himself? Was he under obligation to do so? Please explain this hang up you have.

It's been explained to you several times.

You're obviously not the brightest bulb in the pack, you ask the same questions over and over, you seem unable to grasp the answers, and you're devoid of even common sense.

Have a nice day.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 14 Aug, 2013 11:25 am
@gungasnake,
Slaves once the US stop importing them was very valuable and not lightly mistreated for the most part.

The sad times of blacks being hung and shot in the south in numbers came about after the civil war and after the Federal government stop protecting them.

A time of terror and human suffering that occur after the ending of slavery and running at least to some degree to the 1960s!
firefly
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 11:33 am
@BillRM,
But racism has never gone away...

Even when he is President of the United States, a black man in this country is still subjected to racist crap...

Quote:
Missouri “Cowboy Club” Perpetuates Racism and Bad Taste
August 12, 2013
by Joshua De Leon

In a poor attempt at humor and political satire, the state of Missouri Rodeo Cowboy Association (MRCA) has made itself, and the state of Missouri, look like nothing more than a bunch of racist bigots. Missouri is already home to one of the most segregated cities in America, St. Louis, and the event that happened at the Missouri State Fair, in Sedalia, MO, on Saturday night does not help the state’s image.

Over the weekend, during a rodeo at the Missouri State Fair, a rodeo clown wore a Barack Obama mask and stood target of a rodeo bull. The announcer babbled over the loudspeaker, “As soon as this bull comes out, Obama, don’t you move. He’s going to getcha, getcha, getcha, getcha.” The disgusting display occurred in what was supposed to be a wholesome, family atmosphere.

One attendee compared the event to what a Ku Klux Klan rally must be like. “It wasn’t clean; it wasn’t fun. It was awful; it was sickening,” said Perry Beam, who brought a Taiwanese guest to show him “a little piece of Americana.” Beam’s guest certainly got it. The MRCA has since issued an apology.

“The Missouri Rodeo Cowboy Association would like to extend a sincere apology for the inappropriate act during the Bull Riding at the Saturday performance of the MRCA Rodeo,” said the apology. “The Sport of Rodeo is not meant to be a political platform.” If rodeo is not meant to be a political platform, then why engage in such a tasteless and offensive political commentary? What’s the narrative here? Obama is a clown and he needs to be charged by a bull? It’s unfunny and, many times over, unclever.

Even Missouri Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder, who is, himself, a Republican, admonished the actions of the MRCA. On Sunday, Kindler tweeted “The MoStateFair celebrates Missouri and people. I condemn the actions to POTUS (President of the United States) the other night. We are better than this.”

Racism is still a huge problem in America. The actions of MRCA only perpetuated it and make America, to the rest of the world, look like a pack of backwater hicks who are still fighting the Civil War.
http://www.ringoffireradio.com/2013/08/missouri-cowboy-club-perpetuates-racism-and-bad-taste/


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Anti-Obama protesters get racial in Arizona
By Aaron Blake,
August 7, 2013

Protesters outside President Obama’s event in Arizona on Tuesday taunted the president over his race, with one labeling him “47 percent Negro” and others singing “Bye Bye Black Sheep,” according to a report in the Arizona Republic.

Here’s the paper’s recap of the protests outside Desert Vista High School in Phoenix:

Obama foes at one point sang, “Bye Bye Black Sheep,” a derogatory reference to the president’s skin color, while protesters like Deanne Bartram raised a sign saying, “Impeach the Half-White Muslim!”

Many on both sides wore red, white and blue and carried small flags.

“It just kind of happened naturally,” said Michael Pomales of how the opposing sides separated. Pomales, an 18-year-old Ahwatukee Foothills resident who graduated in the spring from Desert Vista High, said he decided to join the protesters side “to spread a little love” as the crowds began shouting at each other.

Pomales said his response to people yelling for Obama to go back from where he came from is simple: “He’s a great man. He cares about what I care about, education, jobs. He’s our president. He’s an American.”

Deanna Bartram, a 17-year-old University of Arizona student from Black Canyon City, lashed out at people who call her racist for not supporting Obama. She believes Obama supporters use the “race card” against her because they disagree with her political message.

“Obama is ruining American values. He is ruining the Constitution. He needs to go back to where he came from because obviously, he is a liar,” she said. “I am not racist. I am part Indian. Obama’s half Black, half White.”

“He’s 47 percent Negro,” shouted Ron Enderle, a 77-year-old Chandler resident who said that he and his son served as Marines and his grandson is currently serving in the Marines.

Enderle criticized the president mishandling security at the U.S. Benghazi Embassy.

“My grandson is third generation Marine, and it bothers me to have this man as our commander in chief. I’m ashamed,” Enderle said.

Judy Burris said that she blames Obama for racism in America reaching heights not seen since the 1960s Civil-Rights Era.

“We have gone back so many years,” she said. “He’s divided all the races. I hate him for that.”

She said that she brought her 12-year-old grandson Christian Cabrera to the protests because she thought it would be educational.

“He’s Mexican,” she said of her grandson.

Cabrera said he wanted to accompany his grandma “so I could protest about impeaching Obama.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/08/07/anti-obama-protesters-get-racial-in-arizona/


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_y2zrTYrSzVU/TOgUVU2fzsI/AAAAAAAAAek/ZMbYO4G5Cdc/s320/concise.png

cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 11:45 am
@firefly,
So many people on these threads have blinders on that they can't see the obvious racial bigotry in this country.

There was a recent news article about "stop and frisk" in NYC. Most of those stopped and frisked were blacks even though 90% were not found to be guilty of anything - except being black.

Quote:
…[N]umbers [released by the mayor's office] showed that 87% of the people stopped under stop-and-frisk in 2012 were black or Latino, and that 9% were white. That same year, more than 90% of those identified as murder suspects were blacks or Latino; just 7% were white.

Critics of stop-and-frisk charge that such numbers are irrelevant. They charge that cops indiscriminately go after young black and Hispanic men on bogus grounds, and that nearly nine out of ten people who are stopped are innocent.


This is no better than the NSA data gathering that have resulted in a world-wide outcry against privacy. Where's the same outcry for blacks in NYC?

firefly
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 11:55 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
So many people on these threads have blinders on that they can't see the obvious racial bigotry in this country.

That's because they are too busy contributing to the racial bigotry in this country, C.I.
parados
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 12:07 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:



Trayvon was carrying AriZona Watermelon Flavored Fruit Drink

And I'm told that that tastes good when mixed with cough syrup, if you also dissolve some Skittles in it.




I wonder who told you that. As I have pointed out before, the ONLY people that seem to think it tastes good and is a recipe for "purple drank" are Conservatives trying to defend Zimmerman's action.
There is NO evidence of Watermelon drink being part of any recipe prior to Martin's death. The recipe was manufactured after his death by conservatives.

In fact, let me repeat, you can't find a single instance of Watermelon drink in any recipe prior to June of 2012.
parados
 
  1  
Wed 14 Aug, 2013 12:08 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:


But some people find that AriZona Watermelon Flavored Fruit Drink works good.

The key is that it be a "light" drink, and that you dissolve candy in it.

Really? Who found that out? I would love to see a single instance of someone posting a recipe that actually USED the recipe.
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gungasnake
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 12:12 pm
I'd assume that most recipes for lean have been scrubbed from the internet after the Trayvon Martin debacle.
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gungasnake
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 12:19 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Ahhh...so you think a wife should commit crimes in order to keep her husband out of prison.


In theory at least, an honest and competent DA should almost never be in the position of holding somebody in jail for a year or more awaiting trial, and then have a jury declare the person totally not guilty. When that happens, ideally, the DA should spend a year or more in prison thinking it over.

In this case, the intention of the persecutors and the original judge who, you'll remember, got bounced off the case, appeared to be to have GZ in jail or prison long enough that their little political problems might just go away.

Don't expect ordinary people to impute decent motives to you or to anybody like you, Frank, you haven't earned it.
Baldimo
 
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Wed 14 Aug, 2013 12:20 pm
@firefly,
I keep asking the question because you have never answered it. You go off on a tangent without providing any information.

You haven't provided any links or articles showing he had to ID himself.
 

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