The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

The canonical ingredient is Jolly Ranchers, not Skittles. And usually candy is just candy--it's an end in itself, not an ingredient in something else. This whole thing is just a right-wing fantasy.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

The canonical ingredient is Jolly Ranchers, not Skittles. And usually candy is just candy--it's an end in itself, not an ingredient in something else. This whole thing is just a right-wing fantasy.

taken together with his pre-death correspondence about it

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Gee, maybe, just maybe, this is just a suggestion, he was planning on drinking the Arizona Iced Tea (which would taste absolutely awful mixed with cough medicine) while he was watching the game.

Trayvon was not carrying AriZona Iced Tea.

Trayvon was carrying AriZona Watermelon Flavored Fruit Drink

And I'm told that that tastes good when mixed with cough syrup, if you also dissolve some Skittles in it.

MontereyJack wrote:

You're building cloud castles in fairyland again, oralloy.

Note that Trayvon posted online about mixing and consuming this sort of concoction.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

The canonical ingredient is Jolly Ranchers, not Skittles.

There are varieties. The original recipe also used Sprite.

But some people find that AriZona Watermelon Flavored Fruit Drink works good.

The key is that it be a "light" drink, and that you dissolve candy in it.

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Zimmerman stalked Trayvon quite a distance from his car. Look at the maps. And the usual timeline has the stalking and the killing quite a bit closer together. But if it was in fact three minutes, what the hell was Zimmerman standing around in someone's backyard for that length of time for? Why didn't he return to his car? Why was he standing there blocking Trayvon's way home? Where did you get this fantasy "doubling back"?

And some witnesses saw Trayvon on top, some Zimmerman, and the one who first called it MMA moves, on cross examination said that in fact he hadn't seen any pummeling as you describe it, no blows landed, merely "downward motions" (like Trayvon trying to restrain a flailing Zimmerman wwho was try ing to punch him, a much more likely scenario, considering Zimmerman is a known liar, trying to construct a story which will save him from a murder charge).

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Yeah, and you will find that people say any light soda or any candy can be used. n Which basically means that you can fantasize that anyone with a soda and candy is going to make "purple drank". Or maybe they're just going to drink the soda and eat the candy.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

in other words he had no need to steal to support his drug habit because his drug habit was cheap.

He must have stole stuff for some reason. He had that stash of jewelry.

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@oralloy,

MontereyJack wrote:

Gee, maybe, just maybe, this is just a suggestion, he was planning on drinking the Arizona Iced Tea
(which would taste absolutely awful mixed with cough medicine)
[U 've taste-tested it??] while he was watching the game.

oralloy wrote:

Trayvon was not carrying AriZona Iced Tea.

Trayvon was carrying AriZona Watermelon Flavored Fruit Drink

And I'm told that that tastes good when mixed with cough syrup, if you also dissolve some Skittles in it.

MontereyJack wrote:

You're building cloud castles in fairyland again, oralloy.

oralloy wrote:

Note that Trayvon posted online about mixing and consuming this sort of concoction.

Is that known for producing hostility or belligerence ?

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Yeah, and you will find that people say any light soda or any candy can be used. n Which basically means that you can fantasize that anyone with a soda and candy is going to make "purple drank". Or maybe they're just going to drink the soda and eat the candy.

U 'd not be jumping thru all those hoops,
if travon were a white.

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No, as a matter of fact, its effects are euphoria, sensory distortion, lethargy, and somnolence, depending on what you use as the active ingredient. NOT hostility. NOT belligerence. Much like marijuana, the drug close to a majority of high school students have used, and which Trayvon also may have used. These tend to put you to sleep, NOT turn you into a homicidal maniac. that's right-wing fantasy, which picture has been laughed at since the "eefer Madness" of the 1930s.

You guys are ones jumping thru the hoops, David, coming up with these bizarre theories of what you fantasize Trayvon was doing. I repeat, usually, and that night, candy was just candy. Soda was just soda. Trayvon was in the usual distracted state people talking on cellphones get into. He wasn't casing houses, he wasn't on drugs. That's pure fantasy.

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@hawkeye10,

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n other words he had no need to steal to support his drug habit because his drug habit was cheap

We know from his blood tests that he was also using weed so who know what other drugs he was interested in doing.

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@MontereyJack,

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And the candy was for his younger brother

Or the candy was for himself after smoking some weed.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

No, as a matter of fact, its effects are euphoria, sensory distortion, lethargy, and somnolence, depending on what you use as the active ingredient. NOT hostility. NOT belligerence. Much like marijuana, the drug close to a majority of high school students have used, and which Trayvon also may have used. These tend to put you to sleep, NOT turn you into a homicidal maniac. that's right-wing fantasy, which picture has been laughed at since the "eefer Madness" of the 1930s.

You guys are ones jumping thru the hoops, David, coming up with these bizarre theories of what you fantasize Trayvon was doing. I repeat, usually, and that night, candy was just candy. Soda was just soda. Trayvon was in the usual distracted state people talking on cellphones get into. He wasn't casing houses, he wasn't on drugs. That's pure fantasy.

Something he WAS doing when he got killed
was trying to murder Zimmy by bashing his head on the street
until his brain fell out. I guess he was mad that Zimmy was denying him
the opportunity to case the naborhood in private.
He might not have liked the idea of Zimmy picking him out of line-ups
qua future naborhood burglaries, in his efforts to get more women 's jewelry,
but even with all that, he 'd not have gotten shot,
if he had only remained CIVIL. In recognition of his violence,
Zimmy gave him a one-gun salute.

David

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@MontereyJack,

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anyone with a soda and candy is going to make "purple drank". Or maybe they're just going to drink the soda and eat the candy.

Anyone that is talking about creating that drug online that for sure is likely to be planning on using those ingredients, that he went out in the rain to get, for making that drug.

Of course he could just had been hungry from smoking weed.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Yeah, and you will find that people say any light soda or any candy can be used. n Which basically means that you can fantasize that anyone with a soda and candy is going to make "purple drank". Or maybe they're just going to drink the soda and eat the candy.

It might depend if a given person was already known to mix and consume "purple drank".

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Zimmerman stalked Trayvon quite a distance from his car. Look at the maps. And the usual timeline has the stalking and the killing quite a bit closer together.

Referring to it as stalking is silly and pejorative.

MontereyJack wrote:

But if it was in fact three minutes, what the hell was Zimmerman standing around in someone's backyard for that length of time for?

Probably because he was trying to figure out where he was and find a street address.

MontereyJack wrote:

Why didn't he return to his car?

In addition to the above, he may not have known where his car was in relation to his current position.

MontereyJack wrote:

Why was he standing there blocking Trayvon's way home?

He wasn't.

Trayvon had to turn around and move away from his home in order to approach Mr. Zimmerman.

MontereyJack wrote:

Where did you get this fantasy "doubling back"?

Reality isn't a fantasy.

But my statement of reality is based on the fact that Mr. Zimmerman stopped following Trayvon a good three minutes before the fight happened.

The only way that could happen is if Trayvon approached Mr. Zimmerman.

And the only way that could happen is if Trayvon turned around and moved away from his home, toward Mr. Zimmerman.

MontereyJack wrote:

And some witnesses saw Trayvon on top, some Zimmerman, and the one who first called it MMA moves, on cross examination said that in fact he hadn't seen any pummeling as you describe it, no blows landed, merely "downward motions" (like Trayvon trying to restrain a flailing Zimmerman who was trying to punch him, a much more likely scenario,

That scenario has zero likelihood.

First, there is the fact that Trayvon was the one who approached Mr. Zimmerman.

And second, there is the fact that Mr. Zimmerman is the one who had injuries from being pummeled.

MontereyJack wrote:

considering Zimmerman is a known liar, trying to construct a story which will save him from a murder charge).

Demonizing Mr. Zimmerman is silly.

And since I'm referring to what the physical evidence indicates, it is irrelevant whether or not Mr. Zimmerman was truthful.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Is that known for producing hostility or belligerence ?

Dextromethorphan is a dissociative hallucinogen like PCP/Angel Dust.

A dissociative hallucinogen walls your conscious mind off from the rest of your brain. It makes you think you are standing outside your body controlling it by remote control. You also become convinced that you are not real, and that the world is not real. And it prevents you from experiencing any pain.

The problem with dissociative hallucinogens comes from those last two. When people become convinced that the real world isn't actually real, sometimes they start engaging in some really messed-up criminal acts. And the inability to feel pain allows them to engage in levels of violence that seem almost superhuman.

The end result is police horror stories about unstoppable juggernauts that took a dozen shotgun blasts to the chest before they ended their rampage.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

You guys are ones jumping thru the hoops, David,
coming up with these bizarre theories of what you fantasize Trayvon was doing.
I repeat, usually, and that night, candy was just candy. Soda was just soda.
Trayvon was in the usual distracted state people talking on cellphones get into.
He wasn't casing houses, he wasn't on drugs. That's pure fantasy.

No, hoops, huh? Really??
Please explain to us what the chances were
that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson n Obama wud take an interest in this,
if travon were a white??????????

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

No, as a matter of fact, its effects are euphoria, sensory distortion, lethargy, and somnolence, depending on what you use as the active ingredient. NOT hostility. NOT belligerence. Much like marijuana, the drug close to a majority of high school students have used, and which Trayvon also may have used. These tend to put you to sleep, NOT turn you into a homicidal maniac. that's right-wing fantasy, which picture has been laughed at since the "eefer Madness" of the 1930s.

No.

Dextromethorphan is a dissociative hallucinogen like PCP/Angel Dust.

A dissociative hallucinogen walls your conscious mind off from the rest of your brain. It makes you think you are standing outside your body controlling it by remote control. You also become convinced that you are not real, and that the world is not real. And it prevents you from experiencing any pain.

The problem with dissociative hallucinogens comes from those last two. When people become convinced that the real world isn't actually real, sometimes they start engaging in some really messed-up criminal acts. And the inability to feel pain allows them to engage in levels of violence that seem almost superhuman.

The end result is police horror stories about unstoppable juggernauts that took a dozen shotgun blasts to the chest before they ended their rampage.

Very much a homicidal maniac. And although Trayvon was not on Dextromethorphan when he assaulted Mr. Zimmerman, the fact that he was preparing to consume some a little while later means that if he'd broken into a house where someone was at home, that person would have been in dire peril.

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@oralloy,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Is that known for producing hostility or belligerence ?

oralloy wrote:

Dextromethorphan is a dissociative hallucinogen like PCP/Angel Dust.

A dissociative hallucinogen walls your conscious mind off from the rest of your brain. It makes you think you are standing outside your body controlling it by remote control. You also become convinced that you are not real, and that the world is not real. And it prevents you from experiencing any pain.

The problem with dissociative hallucinogens comes from those last two. When people become convinced that the real world isn't actually real, sometimes they start engaging in some really messed-up criminal acts. And the inability to feel pain allows them to engage in levels of violence that seem almost superhuman.

The end result is police horror stories about unstoppable juggernauts that took a dozen shotgun blasts to the chest before they ended their rampage.

Thanks for that information, Oralloy.

David

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