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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 09:33 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/opinion/files/2013/07/zimmerman-verdict-cartoon-morin-495x351.jpg
An ARMED SOCIETY is a POLITE SOCIETY.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 09:51 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IvPAx7tUctg/UA354OwyM0I/AAAAAAAAU1o/HTn63pVdY-8/s400/battyman.jpg
Your cartoon caption repudiates equal protection of the law
insofar as the right to defend one 's life is concerned,
and it asserts (without offering any evidence)
that a citizen can be screwn out of his CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
simply by a government agency secretly putting his name on a secret list.

Do U support that, Firefly ?

What is the jurisdictional predicate for a government agency
violating the Constitutional Rights of a citizen by adding his name to a list??





David
Rockhead
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 09:59 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
not one to parse words, dave, but...

shouldn't that be scroon?
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firefly
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 10:02 pm
@BillRM,
http://themoderatevoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/134669_600.jpg
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BillRM
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 10:09 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
David I do not know about an armed society being a polite society however it does tend to up the risk for those who desire to prey on others or harms others such as Trayvon.
firefly
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 10:15 pm
@BillRM,
Yup, you gun-carrying he-men really should "up the risk" for unarmed kids who dare to walk around with dangerous weapons--like candy and a soft drink.
http://media.cagle.com/46/2013/07/15/134594_600.jpg
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 10:21 pm
@firefly,
Baldimo et al are too stupid to see the obvious provocation of Zimmerman to understand anything. I wish one of their kids is followed by a Zimmerman and killed because they tried to "defend themselves" with their fist.

Rockhead
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 10:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
" I wish one of their kids is followed by a Zimmerman and killed because they tried to "defend themselves" with their fist. "

for all the stupidity verbalized here, you still can't wish **** like that. not on anybody. and not be as bad as they are...
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BillRM
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 10:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
is followed by a Zimmerman and killed because they tried to "defend themselves" with their fist.


Defend yourself from what? Being follow is enough reason to attacked someone in your very sick mind?

It was not enough for Trayvon to have called the police or call home to ask a family member to come meet him or do both.

Or for that matter just keep going home.



BillRM
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 10:29 pm
Good news considering all the death threats that he been getting that the government can not seems to find the time to do anything about.


Quote:


http://dispatchpolitics.dispatch.com/content/blogs/the-daily-briefing/2013/08/050813---zimmerman-gets-his.html

George Zimmerman’s attorney has formally thanked the Buckeye Firearms Foundation for the $12,150.37 check the Ohio gun rights group mailed to the exonerated Florida “stand your ground” man.

Mark M. O’Mara of Orlando said the money would be forwarded directly to Zimmerman “to replace items necessary for him to protect himself and also to accomplish security systems for his house.”

The Buckeye group started out raising money to buy a new gun for Zimmerman because the one he used to kill Trayvon Martin is still being held by authorities as they await a decision by the U.S. Department of Justice whether to prosecute Zimmerman under federal law after a Florida jury declared him not guilty under that state’s laws. The effort raised far more than anticipated, attracting 774 donations from 47 other states and four other countries: Lithuania, New South Wales, Australia and Switzerland.

"We didn't need that much," said Jim Irvine, the foundation’s president, "just enough to buy a quality firearm, holster, flashlight, ammo, and any accessories Mr. Zimmerman may need. But the story went national and we raised far more than we expected."

The fundraising drive also drew unwanted attention; the Ohio group’s website was attacked and shut down for several days.

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BillRM
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 10:36 pm
Quote:


http://now.msn.com/ted-nugent-says-trayvon-martin-got-justice-george-zimmerman-did-not


Ted Nugent says Trayvon Martin 'got justice,' Zimmerman didn't
1 day ago
In an interview with a Maine radio station on Saturday, the ever-classy rocker Ted Nugent decided to do something different, something SHOCKING: openly express his opinions (again) about race in America. We're kidding, of course; the guy isn't exactly known for reining it in. But when asked about the Trayvon Martin case, Nugent said, "Trayvon got justice" and called Martin a "gangsta wannabe" with a "bloodthirst" because Martin was, according to him, eager to "get into fights with people." The rocker and noted gun lover also said George Zimmerman walked away with only "a sliver of justice." [Source]
firefly
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 10:36 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
It was not enough for Trayvon to have called the police or call home to ask a family member to come meet him or do both.

Trayvon Martin's father had gone out to dinner--there was no adult in the residence he was staying at that he could have called.

Young black men are not quick to call the police for help...

Quote:

Defend yourself from what? Being follow is enough reason to attacked someone in your very sick mind?

Defend yourself from a threat, stupid.

Do you think that when strangers follow people in the dark they generally have good intentions?

Do you think being punched in the nose "is enough reason" to shoot and kill someone "in your very sick mind"?
Quote:
Or for that matter just keep going home...

He might have become somewhat lost in that housing complex--particularly in the dark, and particularly because he was trying to avoid Zimmerman who was following him.
Those townhouses all look alike, and Martin had only visited there a few times. It's entirely possible he became somewhat lost, or disoriented, in his attempts to get away from Zimmerman.

Why didn't Zimmerman just stay in his car and wait for the police to show up?

Didn't Trayvon Martin have a right to self-defense--from an armed stranger, who was a trained fighter, who had been following him around in the dark, for no apparent reason?
RABEL222
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 10:57 pm
@BillRM,
There were two people involved in this action. But only one witness who lived to testify in court. The living witness lied in court about his finances and what makes you think if he would lie to a judge he would'nt also lie to a jury. You insist he was found innocent but he was not. He was found not guilty because a judge and Flordia state law forced the jury to its decision. Put it however you want but this coward killed 17 year old kid because he was too chicken **** to fight a boy half his size one on one without his gun pacifier. Your heros arnt for **** and it definitely shows what kind of man you are.
gungasnake
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 10:59 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Do you think being punched in the nose "is enough reason" to shoot and kill someone "in your very sick mind"?


No, and that isn't why Trayvon got croaked. He could have still walked away at that point. What got Trayvon croaked was pouncing on top of GZ and trying to literally beat him to death using MMA ground/pound tactics. THAT gave GZ no other option but to shoot the stupid bastard.
gungasnake
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 11:08 pm
Mark O'Mara is about to come down on Angela Corey and that entire prosecution team like a ton of bricks.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3051538/posts

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Mark O'Mara, the attorney of acquitted George Zimmerman in the highly-politicized trial for the murder of black Trayvon Martin, said that his fight with the prosecution is not yet over.

America's career anti-racists, the Left and the mainstream media had convicted Zimmerman long before the trial, because for them it is axiomatic that a black must necessarily be innocent, so, despite all the evidence in support of the neighbourhood-watch volunteer Zimmerman (who is of mixed white-Hispanic parentage) and his plea of self-defence, in their prejudiced eyes he must have been guilty of murder.

But people with a bias don't have scruples about playing dirty. Defence attorney O'Mara pointed out the struggle he went through to get evidence from the prosecution team:

He cited the picture of a bloodied Zimmerman, taken the night Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin, as an example.
"It is undeniable that they had a plan in mind, with the 15 months that we had to get ready, of keeping information from us, and I don't say that lightly, I really don't," O'Mara told the group.

A member of prosecutor Angela Corey's own team testified that prosecutors had kept evidence from O'Mara, for which he was fired and is now suing her office.
"You have this type of gamesmanship for the sole purpose of trying to deny a fair trial and, as it turned out, try to convict an innocent man," said O'Mara.
O'Mara has filed a motion that will be heard by Judge Debra Nelson.

He claims prosecutors purposely withheld evidence from him and the defense team.

Channel 9 has learned that O'Mara could go after Corey. She called Zimmerman a murderer on national television after the trial.

"He could bring civil action against Angela Corey for statement she made outside the courtroom. Also, he could file a grievance against her with the Florida Bar," WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said.

Sheaffer asked O'Mara whether he intends to drop the issue.

"I am not done with that motion. I'm not done with Angela Corey. And we are going to be seeing more of each other. We'll see how that turns out," said O'Mara. "This is because this is not supposed to be how we practice as lawyers."

Channel 9 contacted Corey's office for a response, but the call was not returned.


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Mark’s a former President of the Seminole County Bar Association. He’s also involved in the Family Law Inns of Court, and has served on the Circuit and Federal grievance committees. In short, he’s plugged in.
gungasnake
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 11:15 pm
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HpWrolNselg/T42EMqRm6MI/AAAAAAAASqE/ThDeHHnp6yE/s1600/00002b91_big.jpeg

Horst Wessel at age 12 (The Version NBC News would show)
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firefly
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 11:21 pm
@gungasnake,
Quote:
trying to literally beat him to death using MMA ground/pound tactics.

Trayvon Martin tried to literally beat Zimmerman to death?

That's why Zimmerman's very minor injuries necessitated no medical treatment at all--not immediately after the fight, and at no time in the future?

He was so nearly beaten to death that he didn't even require a Band-Aid that night?

So where is the evidence of any beating?

A single punch to the nose--a punch that wasn't even strong enough to cause damage that required any medical treatment--is reason to shoot and kill someone?

Zimmerman had other options--he was a trained fighter--he had fight training at a gym, several times a week, for about a year. Yet he never made any attempt to fight back--he simply used his gun.

Zimmerman's a known liar, gunga...





firefly
 
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Mon 5 Aug, 2013 11:31 pm
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/998355_10151435617311735_951774546_n.jpg
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BillRM
 
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Tue 6 Aug, 2013 03:35 am
@RABEL222,
Quote:
There were two people involved in this action. But only one witness who lived to testify in court



Sorry there was both physical evidence and witnesses that all supported Zimmerman story.

He was the one who was on the bottom getting the **** beaten out of him by the innocent and smiling child Trayvon.

Zimmerman was the one trying to get the cops on the scene not Trayvon who have a cell phone in his hands also.

Not a reason in the world to question Zimmerman account except for Al Sharpton and his likes your love of the story of a poor innocent black child gun down by a white racist and as in the two stories that Sharpon try to sell of two innocent girls gang rape by white men Sharpton is full of bullshit.
BillRM
 
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Tue 6 Aug, 2013 03:43 am
@gungasnake,
Quote:
Mark O'Mara is about to come down on Angela Corey and that entire prosecution team like a ton of bricks.


It the damn Duke players "rape" case all over again but it too must to hope for this prosecutor will end up behind bars and disbarred as the Duke Prosecutor did.

Knowingly prosecuting an innocent man or men in the Duke case to make Al Sharpton and Jackson happy and hiding evidence to do so should carry such punishments at least.
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