@Baldimo,
Quote:There is never a mention of the fight now is there. I love how you guys like to leave this out of the discussion. It demonstrates a complete lack of the facts. Keep playing the facts to fit your idea of what happened.
I've never ignored the fight. But that fight did not occur out of the blue. The fight came about as an outgrowth of circumstances that Zimmerman created. The fight came about because of Zimmerman's provocative behaviors toward Martin--actions that caused Martin to be frightened about why this strange man was following him in the dark for no apparent reason.
It was a fight that would never have occurred had Zimmerman not pursued Martin.
It was a fight that would never have occurred had Zimmerman remained in his vehicle.
It was a fight that might well have never occurred had Zimmerman bothered to identify himself, and his motives, to Martin.
Martin died never knowing why this strange man had been watching and following him in the dark, as he was simply walking around on a trip back from the store.
The altercation itself was a fistfight between an unarmed minor and an adult man who, not only had a loaded gun, he was also a well-trained fighter, and there is no evidence that more than a single punch was thrown by the minor before that adult shot and killed him.
The need to use lethal force in that situation rests only on Zimmerman's claim of his subjective fears, in other words Zimmerman's judgment. However, Zimmerman had profiled an innocent kid, just walking home, as a suspicious criminal, and he then displayed poor judgment, and a disregard of both Neighborhood Watch rules and a police dispatcher's admonition, by both impulsively following this kid, and then by getting out of his vehicle.
So, there is every reason to suspect that Zimmerman, who had already shown poor judgment, and poor impulse control, and who already had the mind-set that this innocent kid was some sort of dangerous character, would not accurately judge whether lethal force was necessary, and that he would greatly exaggerate the threat posed to him, in his own mind, causing him to make no effort at self-defense other than a premature resort to lethal force.
Zimmerman responded to a punch in the nose--a punch not strong enough to even necessitate medical treatment for his injuries--with lethal force.
But, under Florida law, because he contended he felt "threatened" with the possibility of great harm, his subjective fears, no matter how unjustified those might actually be, were enough to allow him to evade legal responsibility--not just responsibility for unjustified use of lethal force, but for recklessly creating the entire circumstances that led to the fatal encounter.