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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
spendius
 
  2  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 02:49 pm
What exists now is a cottage industry.

I mentioned the other day the case here which is still making money after 20 years. The Steven Lawrence case. Another black kid killed in the street.

Yesterday it was announced that Mrs Lawrence is to be enobled and will soon take her seat in the House of Lords.
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oralloy
 
  1  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:09 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
you guys totally don't get what "neighborhood watch" is all about...

I've still not seen evidence that Mr. Zimmerman was ever given this formal neighborhood watch training that everyone thinks he violated.

But regardless, Mr. Zimmerman was not on watch duty when this encounter happened. So even if he had been given this training, he was not breaking any rules by carrying his gun at the time.
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oralloy
 
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Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:09 pm
@revelette,
revelette wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
Martin defenders always seem to forget that it was Martin who threw the punch's which lead to the self-defense shooting.

And you know this how?

Except for the lone gunshot, Mr. Zimmerman was the one who had all the injuries.

Plus, Mr. Zimmerman had stopped pursuing Trayvon some three minutes earlier. For Trayvon to have encountered him, he would have had to have doubled back to Mr. Zimmerman's location.
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oralloy
 
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Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:10 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
Oh this is a good one Frank. Please tell me how I have shown bigotry and racial enmity?

Everything that Frank Apisa says is always an absolute lie. If he accuses you of bigotry, be assured that the opposite is true.
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:17 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Everything that Frank Apisa says is always an absolute lie. If he accuses you of bigotry, be assured that the opposite is true.


Oralloy is a reasonable, intelligent, witty, and gentlemanly poster here in A2K.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:18 pm
Oralloy pretends he does not read what I write, so my last comment was for everyone else...not for him.
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BillRM
 
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Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:18 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
A tragedy occurred…a young man guilty of nothing more than buying a few snacks and a drink was shot to death because of the confrontation.


Odd as I remember the evidence showing that beside buying a few snacks on his way home he did his best to either killed or seriously harm Zimmerman and a jury found that to be the case.

Living in fantasy land it would seem once more Frank.
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:20 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
A tragedy occurred…a young man guilty of nothing more than buying a few snacks and a drink was shot to death because of the confrontation.


Odd as I remember the evidence showing that beside buying a few snacks on his way home he did his best to either killed or seriously harm Zimmerman and a jury found that to be the case.

Living in fantasy land it would seem once more Frank.


According to Zimmerman's testimony!

Trayvon was unable to testify...he was dead.

BillRM
 
  1  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Like-minded jurors will arrive at a not guilty verdict by virtue of their bigotry


An you know that those six women was bigotry by the fact they was not black or due to them coming up with a verdict that most legal experts seems to think was call for?
Baldimo
 
  1  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:22 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Still waiting for your proof of bigotry Frank.
McGentrix
 
  1  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:23 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

I said this before…and it bears repeating:

The people "defending" George Zimmerman here in this thread disgust me a great deal more than does George Zimmerman.. Zimmerman may actually have considered a young man in a hoodie as suspicious…and worked himself into a state where an attempt at confrontation seemed reasonable. A tragedy occurred…a young man guilty of nothing more than buying a few snacks and a drink was shot to death because of the confrontation.

But the lowlifes posting here should be way beyond that suspicion. Every presumption here should be that Trayvon bought some snacks and a drink…and was heading home to watch a basketball game.

The vilifying of him…the snarky remarks…the past history should disgust any reasonable person.

There may indeed have been no racial component to George Zimmerman’s initial actions that night…but the lowlifes posting here are filled with bigotry and racial enmity.

I’d tell them they should be ashamed of themselves for the direction their arguments has taken, but to be honest, it doesn’t sound as if any of them have the strength of character or ethical considerations to see they should be.

Pity them.

They barely qualify as human.



Sad

Sorry you feel that way Frank.
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:28 pm
The people defending Zimmerman and vilifying Martin should hang their heads in shame.

But they do not have the strength of character or moral fiber to do so.

Hey...that's life.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:29 pm
@gungasnake,

Frank Apisa wrote:
But the lowlifes posting here should be way beyond that suspicion. Every presumption here should be that Trayvon bought some snacks and a drink…and was heading home to watch a basketball game.

As previously noted, everything that Frank Apisa says is always an absolute lie.

It is not a coincidence that the "snacks and a drink" that Trayvon bought just happened to be ingredients in the "Poor Man's PCP" concoction that Travon liked to brew for himself.

And given past evidence of Trayvon's involvement in burglary, it is unlikely to be a coincidence that Mr. Zimmerman thought Trayvon was casing houses to break into.

All presumptions are that Trayvon was preparing to get all hopped up on Angel Dust and then break into some of the homes in the neighborhood. His decision to double back and assault Mr. Zimmerman may well have prevented Trayvon from slaughtering an entire family later that night.
McGentrix
 
  1  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:36 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

The people defending Zimmerman and vilifying Martin should hang their heads in shame.

But they do not have the strength of character or moral fiber to do so.

Hey...that's life.


What about those of us that don't give a **** about either of them but don't want to see this become something bigger where anti-gun proponents use it to further limit our rights under the second amendment? What about those of us that see this as an abuse of government over reach in bringing to trial what should never have been brought to trial based on available evidence yet the powers that be bowed before political pressure? What about the people that just have a different opinion about the thing?

Lighten up Frank.
firefly
 
  1  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:39 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
According to Zimmerman's testimony!

Trayvon was unable to testify...he was dead.


How true...

http://media.cagle.com/180/2013/07/11/134440_600.jpg
BillRM
 
  0  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:42 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Lighten up Frank.


Anyone who would dare to disagree with him are working for the Devil himself.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:42 pm
@BillRM,

Frank Apisa wrote:
A tragedy occurred…a young man guilty of nothing more than buying a few snacks and a drink was shot to death because of the confrontation.

Setting aside the fact that Trayvon was going to brew the "snacks and drink" into Angel Dust and then break into other people's houses, Trayvon was shot to death because of a confrontation started by Trayvon.


BillRM wrote:
Odd as I remember the evidence showing that beside buying a few snacks on his way home he did his best to either killed or seriously harm Zimmerman and a jury found that to be the case.

Living in fantasy land it would seem once more Frank.

The only thing Frank Apisa ever does is spew an endless series of lies.
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oralloy
 
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Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:49 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Like-minded jurors will arrive at a not guilty verdict by virtue of their bigotry

An you know that those six women was bigotry by the fact they was not black or due to them coming up with a verdict that most legal experts seems to think was call for?

It's CI. The only thing he's capable of doing is describing himself and then falsely accusing others of being like him.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:50 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
Still waiting for your proof of bigotry Frank.

That's likely to be a pretty long wait.

Just chalk it up to him lying about you, just like he lies about everything else.
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gungasnake
 
  -1  
Fri 2 Aug, 2013 03:55 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
What about those of us that don't give a **** about either of them but don't want to see this become something bigger where anti-gun proponents use it to further limit our rights under the second amendment?


There's more at stake in this one than the second amendment. It's also about the basic idea of equality in our society and the question of whether or not we now have special/protected groups of people who are legally untouchable to the extent that the rest of us can't even defend ourselves when one of them goes crazy on drugs and tries to kill us.

That in fact is what Tracy Martin has asked for:

http://www.thenewjournalandguide.com/en/component/k2/item/3184-transforming-the-zimmerman-verdict-into-a-triumph

Quote:

...As you watched Travyon Martin’s father sit in Congress and set a 50-year time line for a law that would ban profiling and killing minors in self-defense in Florida – it was easy to forget the King Holiday took 15 years to pass....


Against the law to kill a minor in self defense?? What about a gang of ten or twelve minors trying to play the "knockout game"? No legal self defense against that **** either??

And then there's the question of a US president and AG being heavily involved in race-hustling bullshit...

http://www.weirdrepublic.com/episode157.htm

Quote:

....Trayvon’s Gift to the President

The tragic and confusing death of Trayvon Martin was a priceless opportunity for Eric Holder and his boss to divert pubic attention away from their bumbling ineptitude. Eric Holder had been the target of ridicule ever since he stupidly dumped truckloads of high-caliber firearms into border-town gun shops in the baseless hope that he could somehow track each gun from its straw buyer to some drug gang down in Mexico. Eric lost track of the guns which were used to slaughter about 300 Mexican citizens. Some of these guns came back across the border; two of them, AK-47 assault rifles, were found near the lifeless body of U.S. border Patrol Agent Brian Terry. Eric had called his clueless gun-dump Operation Fast & Furious.

Eric Holder had been Bill Clinton’s flunky on speed dial. When Hillary Clinton was running for a New York senate seat, Bill had the bright idea of garnering Puerto Rican votes for Hillary by freeing sixteen imprisoned Puerto Rican terrorists who had been convicted of bank robbery, sedition, conspiracy, the possession of explosives and murder. They were committed terrorists who had heartlessly carried on a bombing campaign in New York, Chicago, and elsewhere in the 1970s and 1980s. These homicidal jerks had been linked to over 130 bombings, several bank robberies, six murders and injuries to hundreds of American citizens. The FBI, federal prosecutors and other law-enforcement officials had opposed these commutations. None of the pleas from the injured, the maimed and the widowed victims of the FALN terrorists were poignant enough to temper Hillary Clinton’s blind ambition. The whole dirty deal was brokered by Eric Holder.

Trayvon Martin’s death came just in time to save Barack Obama from his worst nightmare – declining poll numbers. Libertarians and liberals alike were unhappy with Obama’s program of data mining the telephone and Internet histories of American citizens. These same people were dismayed by revelations that Obama’s IRS agents had selectively targeted Tea Party, conservative and constitutionalist groups for special scrutiny and abuse. Liberals and conservatives alike were troubled by Obama’s unwillingness to disclose the criteria he used to target people, some of them American citizens, for drone-strike assassinations. Even the New York Times had stopped being Obama’s obedient stenographer and was asking probing questions.

President Obama wanted to change the subject and Trayvon’s death was the perfect distraction. Obama’s soul mate, Rahm Emanuel, had taught Barack that, “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste,” so Obama re-imagined the tragic death in Florida as a “moral crisis” or possibly a “civil rights crisis.” It was an opportunity for Obama to exude empathy and reconnect with his political base on an emotional level that didn’t require too much pesky critical thinking.....

 

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