The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@firefly,

This is from the night of the shooting:

http://i0.wp.com/www.thebrennerbrief.com/wp-content/uploads/zimmerman-injury.jpg?resize=360%2C203

And YOU would be squealing like a little pig if anybody ever hit you hard enough to do that much damage.

@firefly,

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@gungasnake,

The police photo I posted is from the night of the shooting. It was taken in the police station after the small amount of blood under Zimmerman's nose was cleaned off.

The photo you've posted was taken on someone's cell phone, and the angle of the picture distorts the appearance of the nose so it seems out-of-shape and swollen. As you can see, in the photo taken a short time after that, in the police station, Zimmerman's nose is not swollen, and the midline is straight. In fact, in all the photos taken that night in the police station, it is clear that Zimmerman was not "beaten-up" and his injuries were only very minor.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1080708!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/zimmerman-horizontal-mugshot.jpg

Zimmerman, in police photo, taken the night of the shooting.

A picture is worth a thousand words, gunga. In all the police photos taken the night of the shooting, it is clear that Zimmerman sustained only very minor injuries, and showed no signs of having been "attacked", "beaten", punched-up, or of having had his head "pounded" on the sidewalk--no bruises, swellings, goose-eggs, etc. He didn't even need a Band-Aid for his injuries. He appears to have sustained a single punch to the nose, and the nose does not appear seriously damaged or fractured. No way were these very minor injuries anywhere near "life-threatening".

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@firefly,

Why's Gunga posting videos of his girlfriend?

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

oralloy wrote:
He also thought Trayvon acted like he was on drugs and was casing houses.

Come on oralloy. We don't know, only he knows, what he thought. What he said he thought afterwards is neither here nor there.

We know what he said in his call to the police before the shooting even occurred:

Quote:

Zimmerman: Hey, we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh, [near] Retreat View Circle. Um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: Okay, and this guy is he white, black, or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
Dispatcher: Did you see what he was wearing?
Zimmerman: Yeah. A dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie, and either jeans or sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He's [unintelligible], he was just staring...
Dispatcher: Okay, he's just walking around the area...
Zimmerman: ...looking at all the houses.

spendius wrote:

Even if he did think that we don't know whether he was justified in doing so. And I am not saying he wasn't justified. It's just not evidence except for those who want it to be.

We know that Trayvon was addicted to some really messed up drugs.

We know Trayvon was carrying some of the ingredients to make those drugs when he got in his confrontation with Zimmerman.

We know that Trayvon had been previously caught with a secret stash of what is almost certainly stolen jewelry.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

I think he was way off base from the Neighborhood Watch protocol/instructions.

Do you have evidence that Zimmerman was ever trained in such instructions?

And do those instructions really say that watch members can never carry guns even when they are not on watch duty?

ossobuco wrote:

I think he profiled and that Trayvon was black and wore a hoodie was part of that,

Or maybe it was that whole "casing houses and acting like he was on drugs" thing.....

ossobuco wrote:

and that he probably was rather fixated on blacks showing up in the gated neighborhood as being up to no good.

Do you have any evidence of racism on his part?

ossobuco wrote:

I take him for a wannabe cop, and an impulsive and aggressive one.

You like to demonize innocent people.

ossobuco wrote:

I doubt that Trayvon attacked him as such, and think he punched him in self defense.

So much for all the witness who saw Zimmerman being straddled on the ground and repeatedly punched.

Even in your deranged frame-the-innocent mind, how does "Trayvon coming up to Zimmerman and attacking him" amount to self defense?

ossobuco wrote:

(edit) I think George Zimmerman's actions as a whole sequence caused Trayvon Martin's death.

But in reality it was Trayvon's aggressive assault on Zimmerman that caused his death.

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@gungasnake,

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And YOU would be squealing like a little pig if anybody ever hit you hard enough to do that much damage.

There is not a real question in my mind that if Firefly or the posters who are supporting her position ever would find themselves under a 17 year old "child" beating the **** out of them they would employed whatever force they both could and needed to in order to removed that child.

Even an "innocence" black "child" coming back home from buying candy and a drink from a 7/11.

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@BillRM,

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would find themselves under a 17 year old "child" beating the **** out of them...

Does this man look like he just had the **** beat out of him? This police photo was taken the night of the shooting.

Would this death have happened if Zimmerman had just stayed in his car and waited for the police?

http://media.cagle.com/222/2013/06/09/132898_600.jpg

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@firefly,

BULLSHIT.

Accounts on the scene indicated that Zimmerman's nose was in fact broken and the picture I posted shows that. YOU are posting a bogus picture here.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/28/Zimmerman-Folgate-Martin

Quote:

On Friday at the murder trial of George Zimmerman, the prosecution asked physician’s assistant Lindzee Folgate of the Altamonte Family Practice whether Zimmerman’s nose was broken.
The prosecution seemed to be confused as to what constitutes a broken nose, apparently believing that the fact that Zimmerman’s septum appeared to be straight meant that his nose was not broken. Folgate promptly answered that his nose appeared to be broken despite the straight septum.

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@gungasnake,

Quote:

Zimmerman's nose was in fact broken...

Zimmerman never had the nose x-rayed to see if it was fractured. His nose did not need to be re-set, or packed, and he sought no treatment for any problems with his nose. So the alleged broken nose is not a matter of fact.

Quote:

YOU are posting a bogus picture here.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_j0y7D1wMUpk/TFoFPDjPj2I/AAAAAAAACbw/gffi_aZSHP0/s1600/BlogAnimatedLaughingSmiley.gif

Sorry gunga, that's an official police photo taken right after the shooting. So is this one. That nose looks pretty good...so does the back of his head, except for two very small scrapes and the dried blood from those two tiny abrasions.

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/george_zimmerman_injury.jpg

Facts are a bitch, aren't they, gunga? Sorry, Zimmerman was not "beaten-up" or seriously injured that night. His injuries were quite minor--as the police photos taken that night clearly indicate.

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@firefly,

http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/zimmerman_scene_photo.jpg

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@McGentrix,

That picture is from a cell phone and the angle of the shot distorts the appearance of Zimmerman's nose.

The photos I have posted were taken the same night, after EMS cleaned the blood off from under his nose. He received no other treatment for his nose.

Notice how, miraculously, Zimmerman's nose looks just fine in the photos taken by the police just a short time later. How do you explain that?

If you are interested in the truth, why are you relying on one distorted picture taken on someone's cell phone, rather than on the official police photos taken of Zimmerman the same night?

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@McGentrix,

What are you trying to prove? That the injuries were worse than the medic said it was? He even refused to be taken to the hospital. Yea, Zimmerman refused.
Some of you think you know better than Zimmerman what his injuries were.
You're an idiot!

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and compare that picture with an hour or less later at the police station. firefly is right, minor, very minor, injury.

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@MontereyJack,

funny that there are no pictures of him with blackened eyes.

that's one of the things that happen when you really break your nose...

http://bp0.blogger.com/_IyOt0ln_Zto/SFnZNrmfubI/AAAAAAAABEM/djNe1XjHnPI/s400/broken+nose.jpg

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@Rockhead,

Depends on the break really. My son broke his nose playing basketball and it didn't even bleed. That kind of disproves your statement there Rockhead.

You guys are really trying way too hard at this. How do I explain the difference in the pictures? An hour and an ice pack. You guys are crazy about this so I am going to just slowly back out the door and let you get back to it.

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@McGentrix,

poor George.

brutally beaten by a child...

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@McGentrix,

It doesn't disprove anything! The medic already said Zimmerman's injuries were not traumatic. Zimmerman refused to be taken to the hospital.

THOSE ARE THE FACTS. Your imagination is worthless.

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@Rockhead,

Bingo.

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