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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 12:49 pm
I'll say it again, we need to get rid of the "adversarial" justice system and the job of DA.
firefly
 
  1  
Wed 24 Jul, 2013 12:53 pm
@gungasnake,
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I'll say it again, we need to get rid of the "adversarial" justice system and the job of DA.

You want to go back to lynch mobs?
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spendius
 
  2  
Wed 24 Jul, 2013 01:16 pm
@BillRM,
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On some college campuses black females outnumber black males by two to one.


One possible reason for that is that black females are easier to persuade to saddle themselves with debt in the form of student loans in return for an education which might be nothing more than a farce topped off with a ceremonial.

The assumption that being on a college campus is a "good thing" might derive solely from the propaganda of those who run college campuses and whose salaries and perquisites are the substance of the debts.
spendius
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 01:20 pm
@izzythepush,
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When someone starts fantasising about killing babies and nuking allies, it's time to call the men in the white coats.


That's all very well izzy so long as the men in white coats are all that their spin doctors represent them to be.

It is more likely that they participate in the general madness as much as the rest of us.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 01:35 pm
@spendius,
As long as they lock him up I don't give a monkeys.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Wed 24 Jul, 2013 01:39 pm
@firefly,
Strangely enough, not everything Gunga says is ridiculous. In America and the UK the system is adversarial, not so on the continent where investigative magistrates are quite common.

Each system has its own merits.

I wonder what Oralboy would think, if he found out that his buddy Gunga was proposing America adopt an Italian style legal system?
spendius
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 01:59 pm
@izzythepush,
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As long as they lock him up I don't give a monkeys.


You are naive old chum. That's too cheap. He is an udder through which the milch pap succour flows from the Quantitive Easing Department. Treatment is the thing these days.

A day might come when we are all experts at treating things and no longer immune from getting things which need treating.

I have wondered sometimes when Anna Botting might need to be sedated.

The Thatcher Foundation was set up to sedate Mrs T to help her handle the sudden loss of power. The main contributors are no doubt circling around the ashes as we speak.
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BillRM
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 02:15 pm
@spendius,
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lack females are easier to persuade to saddle themselves with debt in the form of student loans in return for an education


So far even with the large debts load colleges for the most part still made sense and far more sense then sitting in a prison cell for those years.
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gungasnake
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 02:35 pm
@izzythepush,
The job of District Attorney in America seems to involve almost limitless power and very little resembling accountability; granted there is no shortage of good people who hold the job, the combination clearly attracts the wrong kinds of people as well and in the worst cases, the job has proved a natural magnet for psychopaths.

DA is often the first rung in the ladder of political careers and some of those careers are paved with the blood and shattered lives of innocents. Cases which are well known and easy to research on the internet include those of Janet Reno and her witch hunts (Grant Snoden, Bobby Fijnje, Frank Fuster, and a couple of others), Scott Harshbarger, Mike Nifong, Martha Cloakley who almost became a US senator from Massachusetts, Ronnie Earle who managed to convict Tom Delay of being a Republican, that lunatic sheriff of Wenatchee Wa. who almost succeeded in having Wenatchee disincorporated when it could no longer buy insurance, the prosecutors in that hideous David Camm case in Indiana... there doesn't seem to be any shortage of people who should not be holding that job.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 24 Jul, 2013 02:36 pm
The family that Zimmerman help rescue was going to speak to the press but become fearful of harm if they would dare to say anything good about Zimmerman.

Only in American can you made someone so hated that people who you help rescue become too fearful of publicly thanking him.

Love the news media power to demonized to this degree and on the other hand turn a trouble young man into a saint.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-rescued-george-zimmerman-fears-blow-back/story?id=19758908

The family rescued by George Zimmerman when they were trapped in an overturned SUV canceled a scheduled news conference today and is pleading for privacy.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla., about 5:45 p.m. Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The Gerstles were expected to hold a press conference today at the office of Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara, but cancelled a few hours before it was supposed to take place.

"They have expressed to us that they are not comfortable doing media interviews at this time and they continue to ask for privacy," the Seminole City Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, said the family had asked to speak, but then got concerned about the anger surrounding the controversial verdict.


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"The family called because they wanted to address the media. I knew that if we did it in an organized way, it would help them get back to a normal life.. But they called today and said they were more worried about blow back from saying anything that would be favorable to George, and decided they did not want to do any media," O'Mara said.

The lawyer said that when he spoke to the Gerstles "their voices were trembling" and that they feared saying anything positive about Zimmerman "would be toxic."




BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 24 Jul, 2013 03:05 pm
@BillRM,
By the way where are the arrests over all the death threats that are being issue even to the jury members?

FBI too busy still looking at Zimmerman past perhaps?
spendius
 
  2  
Wed 24 Jul, 2013 03:11 pm
@BillRM,
Will anybody who once lent him a lawn-mower be in any danger Bill?
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spendius
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 03:14 pm
@BillRM,
When is the funeral?
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RABEL222
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 03:48 pm
@firefly,
They want the right to carry guns so they can kill something. That's what self defense means to gun nuts. But give them their just due, they don't care whether its black or white just so they can kill it.
RABEL222
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 03:55 pm
@BillRM,
How convenient. Only one witness again. However it is a lawyer, and we all know that they would never lie for money.
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BillRM
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 04:13 pm
@RABEL222,
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They want the right to carry guns so they can kill something. That's what self defense means to gun nuts. But give them their just due, they don't care whether its black or white just so they can kill it.


Odd my wife and I had been carrying guns around for well over twenty years and have not killed anyone for some strange reason and a million or so of my fellow citizens in Florida are carrying around firearms legally and it is very rare for any of them to be used to kill anyone and when they are used as is Zimmerman it is mainly a matter of self defense.

That number is roughly ten times the numbers of law enforcement personal in the state of Florida.

CC holders as a group are must more lawful then the rest of the population but facts are meaningless to people like you.
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 04:17 pm
@BillRM,
do not under any circumstances say anything that deviates from the approved script, factual or not. the script says to demonize Zimmerman, do this or keep quiet.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 24 Jul, 2013 04:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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This has been 'common knowledge' ever since I can remember. Blacks get harsher sentences for the same crimes committed by others.


True however the numbers and the ratio is far far too great to think that is all that is going on.

But what the hell facts are never never of concern when it come to crying racism however those cries are not very helpful in trying to solve the problem.

Any more then the crazy idea that the state of Florida or anywhere else in the US is overrun by legally armed racists looking to killed some black children.
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hawkeye10
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 04:21 pm
@gungasnake,
DA power did not used to be a big problem because they used to consider their most important duty to be defenders of justice. these guys used to only throw a punch when justice required it. now they often punch for personal profit and to scratch their sadistic itch.
BillRM
 
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Wed 24 Jul, 2013 04:35 pm
@hawkeye10,
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do not under any circumstances say anything that deviates from the approved script, factual or not. the script says to demonize Zimmerman, do this or keep quiet.


Yes it is interesting to see what Firefly had been trying to do here acted out on a nationwide scale in a far more intense manner.

Control the debate by threatening to paint anyone who disagree with the brush of being a racist at best and if that does not work a few internet threats or even phone calls will do wonders with special note when the government seems not to be willing to act against those issuing the threats.

A kid make a distasteful comment/threat in the middle of an online game chat and even put LOL and such at the end of the line and find himself locked up for 8 months with a bail of 500,000.

People stating openly that they will find out the jury IDs and killed their kids and it is so what the hell.
 

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