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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jun, 2013 06:23 pm
@roger,
Do you still need more time, Mr Language?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jun, 2013 06:26 pm
@WBYeats,
KC is what we called a nearby high school when I was growing up. The name of any other school could have gone into that example.
WBYeats
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jun, 2013 07:26 pm
@ehBeth,
Thank you, Beth~
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WBYeats
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jun, 2013 08:45 pm
In east China is a city called Nanking; if there's a new event called 'Occupy Nanking', according to rules stated above, should THE be used?

eg Those not satisfied with the government's proposal are planning for (the) Occupy Nanking.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jun, 2013 08:59 pm
@WBYeats,
No, you would not use "the" in front of Occupy Nanking.


" I am going to the the Occupy Nanking rally"

"I'm part of Occupy Nanking"
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jun, 2013 01:13 pm
@WBYeats,
Quote:
In east China is a city called Nanking; if there's a new event called 'Occupy Nanking', according to rules stated above, should THE be used?

eg Those not satisfied with the government's proposal are planning for (the) Occupy Nanking.


First clue, WB, when it's a name there are very very limited uses of 'the'.

Beth obviously didn't intend a double THE in "going to the Occupy Nanking rally".

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WBYeats
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 02:53 am
Thank you all~

Do special days on the calendar go under this zero article category?

eg We have to celebrate (the) National Day/Republic Establishment Day
WBYeats
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jul, 2013 12:16 am
@JTT,
How about this:

-(The) annual Sports Day will be next Wednesday.

It's a regular event, held every year, but the lack of THE seems strange....
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jul, 2013 07:45 pm
@WBYeats,
Quote:
Do special days on the calendar go under this zero article category?

eg We have to celebrate (the) National Day/Republic Establishment Day


What do you think, WB, from what you have learned so far about articles and from how this is handled in the English language?
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jul, 2013 07:48 pm
@WBYeats,
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How about this:

-(The) annual Sports Day will be next Wednesday.

It's a regular event, held every year, but the lack of THE seems strange....


First, what do you think, WB, from what you have learned so far about articles and from how similar situations are handled in the English language?

Attempt to analyze it, giving your reasons. That may well reveal things that could make it easier to give you more informed assistance.
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WBYeats
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jul, 2013 11:36 pm
1. I can use instinct only: the presence of ANNUAL makes it odd to omit THE. Apart from this instinct, I can't think of any reason to decide.

2. Back to CAMP. In dictionaries, the only example I can find of CONCENTRATION CAMP is 'a Nazi concentration camp'; but in a book by a native English speaker is a sentence 'He was a political prisoner, placed in concentration camp.' Assume there's no context, does 'a concentration camp' refer to the place while 'concentration camp' refers to the system?
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WBYeats
 
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Reply Fri 20 Sep, 2013 10:00 pm
According to native speakers here, if a certain thing has become a routine thing, articles should be omitted. Does it apply to every word?

eg At college I attended lecture/tutorial.

(I found this uncountable use of CLASS/SCHOOL in dictionaries, but not other words)
WBYeats
 
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Reply Fri 27 Sep, 2013 11:26 am
if a English Writing Competition is held every year, does the rule above apply?

-I won the Champion of (the) English Writing Competition this year.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 27 Sep, 2013 11:35 am
@WBYeats,
eg At college I attended lectures/tutorials.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 27 Sep, 2013 11:38 am
@WBYeats,
-I won the Championship of the English Writing Competition this year.
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WBYeats
 
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Reply Sat 28 Sep, 2013 09:37 am
Thank you, JTT.

If we have to use the plural form

eg At college I attended lectures/tutorials.

, how is it different from?:

eg Please bring your reading to tutorial?
eg For tutorial, read the excerpt from....
eg Students need to summarize the text in tutorial in their own words.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 28 Sep, 2013 10:14 am
@WBYeats,
Quote:
If we have to use the plural form

eg At college I attended lectures/tutorials.


We use the plural because we attended more than one of each.


Quote:
, how is it different from?:

eg Please bring your reading to tutorial?
eg For tutorial, read the excerpt from....
eg Students need to summarize the text in tutorial in their own words.


It's hard to say for sentences in isolation, WB. Where did they come from?
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WBYeats
 
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Reply Sat 28 Sep, 2013 11:41 am
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Where did they come from?


um...I made them up based on what I heard where I come from.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 28 Sep, 2013 09:22 pm
@WBYeats,
Quote:
um...I made them up based on what I heard where I come from.


And where is that, WB?

Quote:
, how is it different from?:

eg Please bring your reading to tutorial?
eg For tutorial, read the excerpt from....
eg Students need to summarize the text in tutorial in their own words.


If this tutorial was an ongoing, regular kind of thing/event, I could see a group of students beginning to drop the article, naming it as if it was a shortcut name for the class.
WBYeats
 
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Reply Tue 1 Oct, 2013 10:04 pm
@JTT,
Thank you, JTT.

According to your answer, does the word tutorial only apply or do words like lecture also apply as long as these words comply with the rule of having been used as a regular thing?
 

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