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the furthest west that I have heard

 
 
WBYeats
 
Reply Fri 7 Jun, 2013 07:58 am
A sentence from a paper: In China, the furthest west that I have heard the bird was near Lhasa. The sentence

-The place that I know is Japan.

can be changed to

-I know the place. (with some change of meaning

According to the usual way the that-relative is used, the sentence, if correct, can be rephrased like this:

-I have heard the bird the furthest west.

But it does not sound good to me; what do native speakers think? I thought of adding IN/ON/AT etc before THE, but the addition would be worse than the disease. Could anyone help me?

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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jun, 2013 11:40 am
@WBYeats,
This is not too clear to me.

But, you can say "I have heard the bird further west."
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jun, 2013 12:04 pm
I have heard the bird the furthest west. The furthest west of what? Where? The original sentence specifies a place. Without a place reference, that sentences is nonsensical.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jun, 2013 08:31 pm
@WBYeats,
Quote:
In China, the furthest west that I have heard the bird was near Lhasa.


What's the intended meaning? Does it actually mean 'hear' as in the sound made by the bird or is it something like,

In China, the furthest west that I have heard the bird lives was near Lhasa.
WBYeats
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jun, 2013 09:58 pm
@JTT,
I believe the meaning is something like hearing the voice of the bird, just as a mother angry with her child will say:

Did you hear me?
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jun, 2013 10:07 pm
@WBYeats,
Quote:
In China, the furthest west that I have heard the bird was near Lhasa.


So the sense is,

In China, the furthest west that I know the bird to exist is/was near Lhasa.
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