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Why is this expression funny?

 
 
Reply Fri 26 Mar, 2004 11:54 pm
As a non-native English speaker, sometimes I couldn't get why some joke was funny. Like this one:

The joke:

Once when I was a kid we were packing the car for a trip. My brother and brother-in-law were in the back yard playing catch. (Yeah, I know, why weren't they helping to pack, but never mind that.) As I walked by with several shoe boxes, heading toward the car, my brother-in-law looked at me. Right away I said?-"I don't know why Dad doesn't use a wallet." It got a big laugh.

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I think "wallet" here meant "travel bag". I guess why "I" got laughed is that because "dad" was to travel in car, so asking him using a travel bag is childish...

Am I on the right track? Rolling Eyes
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littlek
 
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Reply Fri 26 Mar, 2004 11:56 pm
I have no idea! Is this brittish english?
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2004 12:16 am
I dunno. The joke is from this site:

http://www.monksofadoration.org/index.html


Quote:
How to be Funny

"But how can I be funny, too?" This is the question I'm often asked when I encourage people to cheer up friends or lonely people they know. Some people think that being funny is a gift. Well, in part, I guess it is. But being funny?-like playing the cello or finger painting portraits of famous people can be learned. You just have to know the rules of comedy. Certain things make something funny. Learn these rules, practice them, adapt them to your own style and you'll get lots of laughs (True, it is easier to pay people to laugh when you say something funny.) Anyway, here are the rules.

1. Don't limit comedy to jokes. Jokes are great, but there is more to humor than jokes. Often, the funniest things are remarks made in a conversation or during a certain situation. Once when I was a kid we were packing the car for a trip. My brother and brother-in-law were in the back yard playing catch. (Yeah, I know, why weren't they helping to pack, but never mind that.) As I walked by with several shoe boxes, heading toward the car, my brother-in-law looked at me. Right away I said?-"I don't know why Dad doesn't use a wallet." It got a big laugh.

2. Exaggeration is very important in humor. But it must be the exaggeration or the stretching of the truth?-that is the teaching of the great Phyllis Diller. You can stretch the truth, but if you say something so impossible or unreal it won't be funny. If I say, "I'm on a diet so I only had three pieces of pie," I'll probably get a chuckle. If I said I had eighty-four pieces of pie, that wouldn't be funny for it's too unreal.

3. Surprise is important to humor. Even though when we are listening to a stand-up comic and we know he or she is about to say something funny, we laugh because we are surprised at the specific funny thing that the comic said. Even when we are funny in a conversation much of the laughter we receive is from the surprise element in what we have said.

4. Don't limit humor to words. Unfortunately now-a-days that's what the situation comedies do. (I don't find them funny!) But being funny also involves doing funny or silly things. Lucille Ball was a master at this. Remember all the funny things she used to do on her "I Love Lucy" show like when eating long spaghetti she cut it with a scissors?

5. Timing is very important in humor. There has to be a pause before the funny part, before the punch line. In my talks on benefits of humor I try to say two or three serious or sensible lines then pause?-then hit them with the punch line.

6. Remember that humor need not always be laugh-on-the-floor funny. We should value things that get just a chuckle or even a smile. Betty White said about my "Humor Helps!" book?-"I got some good laughs and many, many smiles." Remember, with humor smiles are important, too.

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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2004 12:45 am
Nah - wallet would not mean travel bag, I don't think.....trying to figure it out....the shoeboxes must be assumed (for the joke) to be full of money.....hmmmmmmmmmm....
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2004 12:54 am
I don't get the joke either.

It's not British English..."playing catch" is not a British expression.

Maybe it's to do with some folk keeping money in shoe boxes, instead of in a wallet (Br)/ billfold (US) or in a bank.
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Eos
 
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Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2004 09:35 am
Don't any of you have a male relative who has way, way too much stuffed in his wallet? And an extra bundle of credit/membership cards with a rubber band around it? And a drawer somewhere full of stuff that has come from the wallet?
Women like this just get an extra-large purse.
The joke is that the narrator is implying that instead of a wallet (a small thing that holds very little), 'dad' is using several shoe boxes for the same purpose. Needless to say, they aren't going to fit in his pants.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2004 09:41 am
I finally figured it out -- out of context it fell flat, in context I get it but it's still weird.

They're packing for this trip, right? Usually that means suitcases, backpacks maybe, containers that are actually appropriate for transporting things. But the kid's dad has him packing things in... shoeboxes. Shoeboxes? Awkward, small, can't fit much of anything in 'em. It's almost as bad as if they were packing things in a wallet.

The kid's taking the silliness inherent in the situation -- using small, impractical containers like shoeboxes -- and exaggerating it further -- using a smaller, even more impractical container like a wallet. (About the smallest container one can think of.)

Does that make more sense?

Not such a great joke, but I can see how with the proper expression (long-suffering deadpan) and context it would get a laugh.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2004 09:44 am
"Playing catch" btw is just two people standing some distance apart and throwing a ball (usually a baseball, can be a football) back and forth.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 28 Mar, 2004 10:55 am
I think sozobe has inspired me, though not so much. Razz

I am afraid the writer was not qualified enough to teach others with lecture like "How to Be Funny". Because even McTag could not get his humor. Razz Razz
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 28 Mar, 2004 11:00 am
Well, a whole lot of humor is context and tone. Comedians spend a lot of time setting things up. I can see how I would laugh at that line, in context, but out of context it's a puzzler. (And not that funny, to be sure.)
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 28 Mar, 2004 11:47 am
"Even McTag". I like that. It has a certain ring to it. Smile
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kitchenpete
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2004 10:31 am
oristarA wrote:
I think sozobe has inspired me, though not so much. Razz

I am afraid the writer was not qualified enough to teach others with lecture like "How to Be Funny". Because even McTag could not get his humor. Razz Razz


I think you're right. I don't find it funny and I was wondering about whether the "wallet" suggestion related to him being so "tight fisted" (mean with money) that he wouldn't buy proper luggage. I think Soz's explanation is better.

My advice - don't read this book if you want to be funny. In fact, don't read ANY book which proclaims to be the source of great witty comments. I tried looking a some when I had a "best man's" speech to do at a friend's wedding. Traditionally, this should be humorous but every suggested joke on marriage, etc. was either so old and over-used, weird or just inappropriate for someone I liked that I didn't use any.
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