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What is "deontic proposition"?

 
 
Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 09:52 am

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The psychology of moral reasoning
Abstract
This article presents a theory of reasoning about moral propositions that is based on four fundamental principles. First, no simple criterion picks out propositions about morality from within the larger set of deontic propositions con-cerning what is permissible and impermissible in social relations, the law, games, and manners. Second, the mechanisms
underlying emotions and deontic evaluations are independent and operate in parallel, and so some scenarios elicit emo-tions prior to moral evaluations, some elicit moral evaluations prior to emotions, and some elicit them at the same time. Third, deontic evaluations depend on inferences, either unconscious intuitions or conscious reasoning. Fourth, human
beliefs about what is, and isn’t, moral are neither complete nor consistent. The article marshals the evidence, which includes new studies, corroborating these principles, and discusses the relations between them and other current theories of moral reasoning.
Keywords: moral reasoning; deontic reasoning; intuitions; inferences; moral dilemmas.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 11:43 am
@oristarA,
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What is "deontic proposition"?


A proposition relating to one's moral duties. That's why the uses of modal verbs that describe/relate to moral/social obligations are called deontic modals.

You must be/have to be at school by 8:30AM.

You shouldn't hit your little brother. You ought not to smoke.

He's not supposed to be in this room.

May/Can/Could I borrow your bicycle?

You will not go to the movies tonight. You are supposed to finish your homework.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 11:58 am
@oristarA,
http://onelook.com/?w=deontic&ls=a
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 12:34 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:


First, no simple criterion picks out propositions about morality from within the larger set of deontic propositions con-cerning what is permissible and impermissible in social relations, the law, games, and manners.


This one is beyond me, but I sure would like to see you lose the hyphen in concerning.
contrex
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 12:39 pm
Not all deontic propositions are moral in nature - some are merely practical, such as "If you smoke, you ought to use an ashtray".
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 01:14 pm
@contrex,
That would be covered by 'social'.
contrex
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 01:20 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

That would be covered by 'social'.


What if it was followed by "if you don't want burn holes in your rug"?
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 01:56 pm
@contrex,
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What if it was followed by "if you don't want burn holes in your rug"?


These examples would still be covered under the designation Deontic-Social Modals. The speaker is offering advice.

But I am all for ESLs gathering a full understanding of how modals work, so if you would like to expand this in a manner that will do that, I understand and applaud your efforts, C.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 01:59 pm
@roger,
It is fine in your quote, Roger.

How about theseÉ - Itès - Ièm
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oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 06:10 pm
@contrex,


AHD offers a simple and useful definition:
Of, relating to, or concerning duties or obligations: deontic logic.
But dictionary.com gives us a definition that may easily cause confusion:
of or pertaining to duty and moral obligation as ethical concepts.

It is so cool that Contrex makes things clearer:

contrex wrote:

Not all deontic propositions are moral in nature - some are merely practical, such as "If you smoke, you ought to use an ashtray".
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oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 06:13 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
What is "deontic proposition"?

A proposition relating to one's moral duties.


I think a deontic proposition is relating to one's moral duties, JTT. As for a proposition itself, it simply refers to a statement that affirms or denies something and is either true or false.
oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 06:17 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
What is "deontic proposition"?


A proposition relating to one's moral duties. That's why the uses of modal verbs that describe/relate to moral/social obligations are called deontic modals.
You must be/have to be at school by 8:30AM.

You shouldn't hit your little brother. You ought not to smoke.

He's not supposed to be in this room.

May/Can/Could I borrow your bicycle?

You will not go to the movies tonight. You are supposed to finish your homework.

Excellent!
Yes, it is time to grasp fully the uses of modal verbs.
Deontic modals rock here.

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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2013 06:18 pm
@oristarA,
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I think a deontic proposition is relating to one's moral duties, JTT.


Yup, that's exactly what I said, Ori.

Quote:
A proposition relating to one's moral duties.



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