Fellow Bostonians: How many of us wished we had an assault weapon last night?

@McTag,

U shud put me on Ignore.

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@Walter Hinteler,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

That is shockingly HORRIBLE legislation.
It creates a state of terror & uncertainty in the populace.

Walter Hinteler wrote:

It isn't and it doesn't.
It's in the criminal code since ages and never ever has created any "terror" and/or uncertainity.
(It derives from our Christian sources)

I believe u, that it does not,
in that most people do not know that it is there (I imagine).

It is very alien to considerations of personal freedom.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

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under the circumstances, particularly if it is possible without substantial danger to himself
I take it that Germany has no equivalent
to the 13th Amendment of the US Constitution ?
(i.e., defense: "I am not your slave; I have no duty
to render unpaid work.")

From our basic law

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Article 2
[Personal freedoms]

(1) Every person shall have the right to free development of his personality insofar as he does not violate the rights of others or offend against the constitutional order or the moral law.

(2) Every person shall have the right to life and physical integrity. Freedom of the person shall be inviolable. These rights may be interfered with only pursuant to a law.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I believe u, that it does not,
in that most people do not know that it is there (I imagine).

It is very alien to considerations of personal freedom.
[/quote]Everyone knows that - at least those, who have a driving license (because you need to have a "first aid certificate" to get that).

No, we don't think it limits our freedoms ... "Christian background" and all that, you know.

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@Walter Hinteler,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I believe u, that it does not,
in that most people do not know that it is there (I imagine).

It is very alien to considerations of personal freedom.

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Everyone knows that - at least those, who have a driving license
(because you need to have a "first aid certificate" to get that).

No, we don't think it limits our freedoms ... "Christian background" and all that, you know.

So then: the law does NOT limit your freedom
to lawfully WALK AWAY, minding your own business,
if u see a bloody accident ???

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

So then: the law does NOT limit your freedom
to lawfully WALK AWAY, minding your own business,
if u see a bloody accident ???

It does. And we are not allowed to drive a car legally without driving license. There are additionally even speed limits in towns, drinking age is 16 resp. 18, we can't marry legally two spouses, ....

Indeed. Only the USA is the land of the free!

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@Walter Hinteler,

Unlike the German culture we do not see the need to make laws around all possible moral decisions that our citizens might need to face.

As far as a willingness to render aid by our citizens without laws all one would need to do is watch the videos of the actions of our citizens right after the Boston bombing where people ran into the center of the bombings and gave life saving first aid to people who had their limbs blown off and was bleeding out.

The US government is suppose to be our servant not our master a concept that seems not in the minds of Germans.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Unlike the German culture we do not see the need to make laws around all possible moral decisions that our citizens might need to face.

Well, could you kindly add those few dozen others cultures which have similar laws? Thank you.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

The US government is suppose to be our servant not our master a concept that seems not in the minds of Germans.

We elect our government via our parliament, which is formed by the political will of the people.

Such has been in our minds at least since the formation of the Federal Republic of Germany.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

As far as a willingness to render aid by our citizens without laws all one would need to do is watch the videos of the actions of our citizens right after the Boston bombing where people ran into the center of the bombings and gave life saving first aid to people who had their limbs blown off and was bleeding out.

I think that's extraordinary good that every citizen in your country has a good knowledge in first aid. As said above, here people have to do it by law (to get a driving license).

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@Walter Hinteler,

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We elect our government via our parliament, which is formed by the political will of the people.

Yes we all know how following the German people will by way of your parliament had work out for you in the past.

Thankfully our foundering fathers had placed many protections against the majority of the people will harming the minority of the people.

One of those many protections is having an armed citizenry.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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As said above, here people have to do it by law (to get a driving license).

No law needed as for example I learn CPR when it was offer at my work place no law needed to get the majority of my co-workers to stray after work to learn that skill.

Governments should not try to be parents to adults.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Yes we all know how following the German people will by way of your parliament had work out for you in the past..

I agree that our parliament was largely dominated by the conservatives for quite some time. And I can imagine that for you a parliament with several political parties must look peculiar funny.

But actually, there had been even a time when we had had extra-parliamentary opposition, commonly known as the APO.

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@BillRM,

Perhaps you will re-write our basic law?

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@Walter Hinteler,

I thought you were going over to London for the game, Walter?

Although I suppose you could be in a pub with a laptop. Just so you could bandy words with the civics and jurisprudence experts of A2K.

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@McTag,

At home.(Merkel got my ticket)
I'm not a fan of the Reds (nor of the Yellows, but they are Westphalians...)

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@Walter Hinteler,

Interesting article in The Guardian today about how the northern Germans hate Bayern Muenchen, Bavarians in general I think.

here

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/25/bayern-munich-germans-love-to-hate

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@McTag,

Rummenigge is born here, started his career in our local football club ...

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@maxdancona,

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We have a dedicated professional police force that did an amazing job. That was more than enough.

That's real funny everyone say this...., but, if someone enters your home with a gun, do police teleport to your home? For the longest time I hated guns, but news of break-ins in my previous neighborhood changed my mind. Last time I checked, the fastest possible response time, even with my premium ADT coverage, is 2 minutes. If you live farther from the police station, it may take longer. Oh yeah, definitely don't trip when you are looking for your cellphone to call the cops.

It's funny you oppose repealing the 14th amendment, saying it's our constitutional rights, but now you sound like you oppose the 2nd amendment. So you get to pick and choose what amendment suits you the best?

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@Angelgz2,

The chance of someone with a gun entering your home is about as real as lightening striking you dead. However, the incidence of a burglary is much higher at one in 36 in the United States. It depends on which city one lives in where burglary might be very high.

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