Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2004 02:49 pm
THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS

The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August

18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS,

is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the

territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive

manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the

basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad

(Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS

Covenant:



Goals of the HAMAS:

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'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian

movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is

Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of

Palestine.' (Article 6)



On the Destruction of Israel:

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'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will

obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)



The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:

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'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]

consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one

can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'

(Article 11)



'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the

Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem

wherever he may be.' (Article 13)



The Call to Jihad:

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'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the

individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation,

it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15)



'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses

everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the

call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will

reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is

achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.'

(Article 33)



Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:

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'[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and

international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of

the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than

a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of

Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by

Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a

waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)



Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:

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'Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle

[against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The

Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar

agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle.

...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason,

and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.' (Article 32)



Anti-Semitic Incitement:

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'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and

kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the

rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind

me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)



'The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have

accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money,

they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred

revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the

French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the

revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret

organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions -

which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies

and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ...

and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the

world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge

financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them

having their finger in it.' (Article 22)



'Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet

expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have

finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they

will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out

in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'.' (Article 32)



'The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the

circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over

the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped

for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews.'

(Article 32)

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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2004 02:50 pm
Do you really feel that the people that follow these tenets can be reasoned with?
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2004 03:50 pm
Was the church behind the Spanish Inquisition able to be reasoned with?

Were the druids able to reason with the Roman legions?

Could Harvey Feinstein reason with Jerry Falwell?

Could Al Sharpton reason with Ann Coulter?

What's your point?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 09:13 am
You can try to change the subject bear, but the points made here about the Hamas terror organization aren't going to go away.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 09:43 am
Not changing the subject, asking what your point is, that Hamas are religious fanatics? No duh.

So are the Israelis. Both sides are murderers and slaughterers.

There is no right and wrong side here, everyone's wrong.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 09:46 am
How wonderfully quaint.

Hamas is wrong and the Israeli's are right in destroying Hamas. So, I guess you are wrong.
Again.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 10:14 am
McGentrix wrote:
How wonderfully quaint.

Hamas is wrong and the Israeli's are right in destroying Hamas. So, I guess you are wrong.
Again.


How wonderful to know everything about war ...especially when you have no experience with it......

and how uncomplicated to live in such a black and white world.
Enjoy it......
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 11:28 am
So I have to experience war to know about it? Isn't that one of those fallacies that Craven always speaks of?
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 11:44 am
No I suppose if you have nothing better to do than worship it and long for it you'll make it your business to know a little about it......maybe someday you'll be able to empty a gun over and over into the lifeless corpse of an enemy of the state...you don't need bravery, knowledge or even good hips for that...just desire and sociopathic tendencies......be of good cheer..... your day may come.....
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 12:46 pm
Oh, I have plenty to do. I neither worship nor long for war, but I do see it as a necessary tactic to keep evil at bay.

I have no desire to "empty a gun over and over into the lifeless corpse of an enemy of the state" as you have said. Unlike you though, I understand the need to destroy people who would follow a doctrine like the one stated above.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 12:55 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Oh, I have plenty to do. I neither worship nor long for war, but I do see it as a necessary tactic to keep evil at bay.

I have no desire to "empty a gun over and over into the lifeless corpse of an enemy of the state" as you have said. Unlike you though, I understand the need to destroy people who would follow a doctrine like the one stated above.


And yet on the "Between the Devil and the deep blue sea" thread you said:

It saddens me to think you actually believe that.

The only people I have no empathy for are the bastard terrorists who take innocent lives. I hope they all die scared and crapping their pants as a marine pumps round after round into their useless bodies.


So you have no desire to empty a gun into an enemy but want a Marine to do it while the enemy shits his pants.

Are we then to conclude that besides bad hips you don't have the balls to do the job you want done personally? I'm not suggesting that is true, far be it from me to make an ad hominem attack of that nature, but I suggest that your statements might certainly lead one to that conclusion.

Should that be the case, and again, I'm not saying it is, it does raise the interesting possibilty that you and the current leaders you admire so much are two peas in a pod. :wink:
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IronLionZion
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 01:06 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Do you really feel that the people that follow these tenets can be reasoned with?


Again - nobody is advocating that they can.

However, we shouldn't blind ourselves to the fact that this irrational manifesto was born out of legitmate grievances, which can, arguably, be reasoned with.

The conservative establishment misses this point in its simplistic good and evil, black and white perception of the world.

Ironically, it is precisely this mindset that drives people on both sides - Palestinians and Isrealis - to continue this tit-for-tat diplomacy in the language of violence.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 01:07 pm
You can come to what ever conclusion you feel no matter how it reflects upon you. Yes, far be it from you to do such a thing as make an ad hominem attack as that would so far out of character for you. Rolling Eyes

Your conclusions on this matter mean less to me than your ability to make a reasoned arguement and since you continuously fail to do even that, I will continue giving your posts the courtesy they are due.

I think this picture best sums up my opinion of how you spend much of your time...

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:hwhxPjHjnCsJ:www.ron4president.com/images
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 01:12 pm
IronLionZion wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Do you really feel that the people that follow these tenets can be reasoned with?


Again - nobody is advocating that they can.

However, we shouldn't blind ourselves to the fact that this irrational manifesto was born out of legitmate grievances, whaich can, arguably, be reasoned with.


What "legitmate grievances" would allow for such precepts as "'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." or "There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility."?
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IronLionZion
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 01:15 pm
McGentrix wrote:
IronLionZion wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Do you really feel that the people that follow these tenets can be reasoned with?


Again - nobody is advocating that they can.

However, we shouldn't blind ourselves to the fact that this irrational manifesto was born out of legitmate grievances, whaich can, arguably, be reasoned with.


What "legitmate grievances" would allow for such precepts as "'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." or "There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility."?


You fail to understand. Re-read my post.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 01:18 pm
McGentrix wrote:
You can come to what ever conclusion you feel no matter how it reflects upon you. Yes, far be it from you to do such a thing as make an ad hominem attack as that would so far out of character for you. Rolling Eyes

Your conclusions on this matter mean less to me than your ability to make a reasoned arguement and since you continuously fail to do even that, I will continue giving your posts the courtesy they are due.

I think this picture best sums up my opinion of how you spend much of your time...

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:hwhxPjHjnCsJ:www.ron4president.com/images


I haven't come to a conclusion....I was hoping you'd address the question and clear things up...you seem however content to cloud the issue by publishing your yearbook picture.....
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 01:18 pm
But what are the legitimate grievances you are referring to?
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IronLionZion
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 01:29 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
...you seem however content to cloud the issue by publishing your yearbook picture.....


Oh, thats rich.

McGentrix wrote:
What legitimate grievances?


I don't have the time or the inclination to run down a list for somebody who is apparently as misinformed as you are. The Isreali's dictate the lives of the Palestinian population - from when they can leave thier homes, to when and if they can sell thier produce, to when and if they can leave the confines of their compound. Literally dozens of "legitimate grievances" arise from this alone....
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 01:35 pm
You don't have the time or inclination or list more likely.

What you site as examples here are not worth the energy it takes to light up the pixels on my screen. There is no reasonable grievance one can have that would require the complete annhilation of Israel. The fact that you seem oblivious to this is typical of the blindness that you demonstrate daily.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 01:37 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
I haven't come to a conclusion....I was hoping you'd address the question and clear things up...you seem however content to cloud the issue by publishing your yearbook picture.....



That's the best you can do? Rolling Eyes
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