Post-Kerry Propaganda

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Every other day Governor Bush flip flops on funding the newly proposed DNI (Director of Naval Intelligence according to Stansfield Turner who says that someone should tell that fellow how much is expected of him).

The accusation of Kerry's being a waffler are unfounded.

If anything the reptile in the White House is the political chameleon if either of them is.

Kerry has been consistently a bridge builder and frankly a fiscal conservative in step with the attitude of Clinton and Gore.

If any of us democrats have a cause for complaint, it is that the Democrats are too restrained and too conservative. On the other hand, rash and fruitless ill conceived campaigns misdirected at interests that are not national protecting us against threats that are from other regions beside the one where our attention is directed - should be eschewed.

The Kerry "flip flop" accusations are already tired and irrelevant.

Perhaps this poster could analyze what Mr. Kerry is saying about broadening the coalition, lessening our financial burden and aiming at a withdrawal of our presence where we are neither welcome nor effective as nation builders.

We need a change. America is flipping and it's time we realized that it is GW Bush who is the flop!

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To answer the question posed in your last cartoon, McG:

I would try and find out what they (the islamoterrorists) are so damn mad about.

Then, I would spend a lot of money securing my borders (note that we really haven't done this.)

Then, I would look to see if there were any non-military ways we could solve the problem,

And if they aren't, I would go to the U.N. and not give up until they agree to help.

What is so complicated about that?

Cycloptichorn

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Isn't it interesting that the name of this thread is called "Kerry propoganda," and then we are shown a bunch of comics lambasting Kerry from McGentrix.

Imagine a thread entitled "Bush Propoganda," with a litany of anti-bush cartoons (of which there are SO many).

Any normal Rightwinger would say, "hey, that's just propoganda against President Bush. Nothin' but political lowball smearing."

I think McGentrix is confused. I think he also feels like Dick Cheney, that unless you sign an oath of allegiance and conform to what the author of this post tells you to say, then you better watch what you say.

Very sad...

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Dookiestix wrote:

Isn't it interesting that the name of this thread is called "Kerry propoganda," and then we are shown a bunch of comics lambasting Kerry from McGentrix.

Imagine a thread entitled "Bush Propoganda," with a litany of anti-bush cartoons (of which there are SO many).

Any normal Rightwinger would say, "hey, that's just propoganda against President Bush. Nothin' but political lowball smearing."

I think McGentrix is confused. I think he also feels like Dick Cheney, that unless you sign an oath of allegiance and conform to what the author of this post tells you to say, then you better watch what you say.

Very sad...

I think that would be a fine thread for you to make.

The idea of this thread was indeed to spread propaganda against Kerry. I had found myself spreading around so many other threads, I finally decided I would merely post it on a single thread so those people that do not wish to read any Kerry propaganda I post do not need to.

I am confused about nothing except for why you keep posting in this thread if you do not like it so much.

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McGentrix:

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I am confused about nothing except for why you keep posting in this thread if you do not like it so much.

Hmmm.... boy, imagine if we only posted on threads that we liked; like minds, like political ideologies, etc.

What a horrifically boring place this forum would be.

Besides, I was just commenting on the symantics of your post's header.

The word "propoganda" has been used in such numerous definitions as to practically render the word utterly worthless.

But then I guess I can understand your confusion...

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What is it exactly I am confused about? You do understand what propaganda is, right? Would it help you if I posted a definition or can you find one for yourself?

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Well, I think that what he meant was that this thread would be better titled 'anti-Kerry propaganda.'

Cycloptichorn

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McGentrix:

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I am confused about nothing except for why you keep posting in this thread if you do not like it so much.

You let me know how many times you need to see this quote repeated.

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There you go, Cycloptichorn.

Perhaps McGentrix should look up the word "symantics" in regards to his thread. In the world of politics, it is a fine art meant to be practiced by the most seasoned politicians.

Which probably further explains McGentrix confusion.

Like I said, if we all agreed on everything, this wouldn't be a very exciting forum.

WOULD it, McGentrix?

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Perhaps McGentrix should look up the word "symantics" in regards to his thread.

I'm sure you meant to say, 'semantics' instead.

That being said, though I mostly agree with ya, you might want to cool it off a little bit. McG has his opinions, you have yours, let's talk about 'em and not get all catty.

Cycloptichorn

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My First Post! This is quite a forum!

I want to say that Cycloptichorn's idea of going to the UN and waiting until they help might be futile in some cases. Here is an article about the Sudan which seems a straightforward problem but with so much politics that it is intractable right now:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200408230070.html

There is a lot of agreement about the seriousness of the situation, and some African Governments have volunteered troops as peacekeepers, but in the UN Arab governments are stalling. France also seems to be reluctant to sanction or threaten military force in Sudan because of commercial interests there. So, what would seem to be a clear case of genocide (Arabs killing Black Africans) is not being dealt with because of political self interest. I don't know how the UN can get past this sort of problem if this situation cannot be dealt with.

Also, how does one put the box around a previous poster's quote, please?

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Welcome to A2K jomacc. This is quite a forum, indeed.

To quote someone (you can put whatever you want inside) use the

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blah blah blah [/quote ] tags, without the spaces after the word quote.

As for the problems with the U.N., you have a good point. There are a lot of problems with the U.N. right now, and not the smallest one of them is that the US robs it of legitimacy by holding others up to UN standards yet consistently breaking them ourselves, simply because we have the power to do so.

As for the Africa situation, I feel like it would be a good time for the U.S. to stand up and lead the UN in the right direction on this one. We just rarely if ever do that.

Cycloptichorn

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Welcome, jomacc.

See the "quote" button at the top of eact entry? just click on the "quote" for whichever post you want to copy and it will automatically appear in a new box (html format) ready for you to post your comment below it.

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0.o I didn't know that Squinney! Thanks!

Cycloptichorn

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As for the Africa situation, I feel like it would be a good time for the U.S. to stand up and lead the UN in the right direction on this one. We just rarely if ever do that.

Cycloptichorn , isn't the problem that the "right direction" is subjective? The US, leading the UN into Sudan, would have to steamroll the opinion of France and the Arab states, wouldn't it?

It is important to remember, I think that the other "war" run by the UN other than Gulf 1 was the Korean "police action". The only reason that war got approved by the security council was because the USSR was boycotting, otherwise the UN would likely not have approved it, and the US would have been on its own with the South Koreans, Australians, and perhaps Filipinos.

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Cool, the quotes work, thanks for the help.

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Dookiestix wrote:

There you go, Cycloptichorn.

Perhaps McGentrix should look up the word "symantics" in regards to his thread. In the world of politics, it is a fine art meant to be practiced by the most seasoned politicians.

Which probably further explains McGentrix confusion.

Like I said, if we all agreed on everything, this wouldn't be a very exciting forum.

WOULD it, McGentrix?

Let's see, I created a thread, I named it "Kerry Propaganda" and then proceeded to fill it with posts about Kerry... One would almost think the posts I made were facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause.

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