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Why do we cut a tree down, but chop it up into firewood?

 
 
g day
 
Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2004 08:15 pm
God bless English for all its case precedents.

As the question states - I have a Japanese friend who asked me this. It's pretty obivous why we chop a tree down, but why the heck do we chop it up into firewood anyone?
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2004 08:17 pm
With phrasal verbs sometimes it's merely collocation. IMO, this is one of those cases.

Chop down is an obvious use of a literal meaning of a preposition but I think chop up is just collocation. It doesn't seem to take either the literal meaning of "up" or any of the implications of "up" common to phrasal verbs.
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Monger
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2004 09:21 pm
Agreed with Craven.

It seems that most verbs that describe cutting something into a number of smaller pieces can use "up".

E.g. chop up, slice up, cut up, dice up, carve up, hack up, slash up, etc.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2004 03:48 am
The colllocation seems to have too much rights to persuade our poor imagination to trust its authority.
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Jer
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2004 03:55 am
...so it'll fit in the fireplace?
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SCoates
 
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Reply Tue 23 Mar, 2004 09:10 pm
Good one, Jer.
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2004 01:51 pm
Does a house burn down or burn up?
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SCoates
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2004 03:45 pm
OW! ...I felt something in my brain pop.
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Monger
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 03:24 am
coluber2001 wrote:
Does a house burn down or burn up?

It depends on what you wish to emphasize in your sentence -- the flames, or the fact that you're losing your house. The house is falling down as the flames are rising up -- I think that justifies the use of opposite terms here. Both are examples of using the literal meaning of a preposition.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 03:43 am
Yeah, but you can go back and forth on the subject all day.

and how come you have to go back before you go forth???? Laughing


And if your forth, who's on first?
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2004 10:26 am
Like Scoates, I I think I heard something in my brain pop. No, wait! It just exploded! Thanks Joe. You should have been a Zen master.
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