Is religion responsible for the opposition to peace in the Israel-Palestine conflict?

The two state solution ignores the Palestinians' Right of Return.

Israel's continued arrogation of West Bank land negates their pretext of a two state solution regardless.

Sure, and it would be irrelevant to the Zionist claim that they own Palestine.

Justice for the Palestinians would involve the Zionists complying with international law and implementing the Palestinians' Right of Return.

Do Palestinians have a right to return to the places from which they or their ancestors were displaced?

Palestinian refugees’ right to return to the homes from which they were displaced is well established in international law. The first source of support for Palestinian refugees’ claims to a right of return is U.N. General Assembly Resolution 194 (III) Of December 1948, paragraph 11, in which the U.N. General Assembly,


“Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the governments or authorities responsible;

Instructs the Conciliation Commission to facilitate the repatriation, resettlement and economic and social rehabilitation of the refugees and the payment of compensation…”

Since 1949, this resolution together with UNSC Res. 242 and 338 have been regularly reaffirmed by the U.N. General Assembly.

The rights outlined in this resolution are firmly grounded in international humanitarian, human rights, and refugee law. According to the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) Executive Conclusion No. 40, “…the basic rights of persons to return voluntarily to their country of origin is reaffirmed and it is urged that international cooperation be aimed at achieving this solution.”[xi] UNHCR’s support for the right of return is based on the idea that the right of return is a recognized customary norm of international law which is included in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, and the Fourth Geneva Convention.[xii]

InfraBlue wrote:

The two state solution ignores the Palestinians' Right of Return.

And rightly so. The right of return would destroy Israel.

InfraBlue wrote:

Israel's continued arrogation of West Bank land negates their pretext of a two state solution regardless.

Land for peace means that Israel only gives up land when they get peace in return.

Palestinian refusal to peacefully accept a two-state solution means that Israel is not required to give up any land.

InfraBlue wrote:

Sure, and it would be irrelevant to the Zionist claim that they own Palestine.

There are plenty of Zionists who are content with a two-state solution based on 1967 borders.

InfraBlue wrote:

Justice for the Palestinians would involve the Zionists complying with international law and implementing the Palestinians' Right of Return.

International law does not require a right of return. International law requires a two-state solution. The Palestinians are the ones who are refusing to accept a two-state solution.

Posting facts to Orlyboy is a massive waste of time. Only his opinion is important to him/her.

Palestinian refugees’ right to return to the homes from which they were displaced is well established in international law. The first source of support for Palestinian refugees’ claims to a right of return is U.N. General Assembly Resolution 194 (III) Of December 1948, paragraph 11, in which the U.N. General Assembly,

The rights outlined in this resolution are firmly grounded in international humanitarian, human rights, and refugee law. According to the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) Executive Conclusion No. 40, “…the basic rights of persons to return voluntarily to their country of origin is reaffirmed and it is urged that international cooperation be aimed at achieving this solution.”[xi] UNHCR’s support for the right of return is based on the idea that the right of return is a recognized customary norm of international law which is included in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, and the Fourth Geneva Convention.[xii]

Israel's existence is based on its oppression of the Palestinian peoples. Israel must be destroyed.

Like I said, it merely negates the Zionists' pretext of a two state solution.

Sure, and too this is irrelevant to the Zionist claim that they own Palestine because of archaeology.

You are mistaken. International law does require a right of return. See Revelette2's above post.

Well, I do it more for the readers following the threads than for oralloy himself. He tends to close discussions when he starts to repeat himself with replies that amount to "nuh-uh" and "uh-huh."

He heard someone else use it in the playground a long time ago. In the intervening years he hasn't been able to think of a better put down.

1Then the LORD sent Nathan to David, and when he arrived, he said, “There were two men in a certain city, one rich and the other poor. 2The rich man had a great number of sheep and cattle, 3but the poor man had nothing except one small ewe lamb that he had bought. He raised it, and it grew up with him and his children. It shared his food and drank from his cup; it slept in his arms and was like a daughter to him.
4Now a traveler came to the rich man, who refrained from taking one of his own sheep or cattle to prepare for the traveler who had come to him. Instead, he took the poor man’s lamb and prepared it for his guest.”

5David burned with anger against the man and said to Nathan: “As surely as the LORD lives, the man who did this deserves to die! 6Because he has done this thing and has shown no pity, he must pay for the lamb four times over.”

If Israel would agree to give that part of Palestine back to the people it who originally owned it their might be some slight chance that peace might come to the region. As long as the settlers keep stealing Palistianian land it will never happen. And bible thumping christians have much to do with encouraging the conflict.

Islam was brought to the region of Palestine during the Early Muslim conquests of the 7th century, when armies of the Rashidun Caliphate under the leadership of ʿUmar ibn al-Khattāb defeated the armies of Persia and the armies of the Byzantine Empire and conquered Persia, Mesopotamia, Shaam,[a] Egypt, North Africa and Spain.

There's an easy solution to this problem.

bulmabriefs144 wrote:

There's an easy solution to this problem.

Yeah that's a really good idea. Really practical.