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Lola at the Coffee House

 
 
roger
 
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Reply Wed 20 Mar, 2013 11:33 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/hollycruise/2006/01/14/jaffa.jpg?maxWidth=500



A very nice display



of cookies.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 01:29 am
So noone is interested in letting me know what clotted cream actually IS?

Ok, give me the information or the cat gets it.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 03:35 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

izzythepush wrote:

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/hollycruise/2006/01/14/jaffa.jpg?maxWidth=500



A very nice display



of cookies.


Legally they're cakes. They would never be classed as cookies. A cookie looks like this.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9uy4bfaUS1r5suzc.jpg

Biscuits that are not cookies look like this.

http://www.firstnews.co.uk/site_data/images/biscuits_4bffec8b15c90.jpg

Or this.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/8/9/1281368590617/Biscuits-006.jpg
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 03:39 am
@farmerman,
Clotted cream is a very thick cream that originates in the West Country.

From Wiki
Quote:
Clotted cream (sometimes called clouted cream or Devonshire cream) is a thick cream made by indirectly heating full-cream cow's milk using steam or a water bath and then leaving it in shallow pans to cool slowly. During this time, the cream content rises to the surface and forms 'clots' or 'clouts'. It forms an essential part of a cream tea.

Although its origin is uncertain, the cream's production is commonly associated with dairy farms in South West England and in particular the counties of Cornwall and Devon. The current largest commercial producer in the UK is Rodda's in Redruth, Cornwall, which can produce up to 25 tons (25,000 kg; 55,000 lb) of clotted cream a day. In 1998 the term Cornish clotted cream became a Protected Designation of Origin (PDO) by European Union directive, as long as the milk is produced in Cornwall and the minimum fat content is 55%.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clotted_cream

http://t1.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/33/48/98/400_F_33489852_yonkFfYN3RHZzSVt6a9iOV0aUiYjs4gg.jpg
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vonny
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 04:23 am
@ossobuco,
Quote:
You are exposing my life long lack of understanding about british tea time.


Ossobuco - We have breakfast early am, lunch around 12.30 to 1.30pm, then tea is mid to late afternoon, followed by dinner at 7.30 to 8pm. Supper is a later, lighter, snack meal - we don't bother in our house. But some people in the UK call lunch 'dinner' and 'dinner' supper - is that Americanisation? Not sure. Confused

McTagg - Yes - SKONN - that's my preferred way of saying it, although some do say SCOWNE.

Farmerman - oh no! After what you've said I'll never be able to look at clotted cream in the same way! Rolling Eyes
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 04:53 am
All of those would be considered cookies in the United States, which is where this coffee house is located.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 05:30 am
@Setanta,
You're forgetting that this particular issue was prompted by Lola claiming Spendi would probably class her scones as biscuits. He wouldn't, because Spendi is not located in the United States.
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 05:32 am
I'm ignoring that--the discussion is not limited to what you and Spurious think of things. I have not read the drivel he posts for literally years, and i'm not about to start now, especially when the subject is baked goods.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 06:05 am
@Setanta,
That's why you often misunderstand what's going on. Are you ignoring Roger and Lola as well?
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 06:28 am
@izzythepush,
I can see that i ought to ignore you. What a little thread nazi you are.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 06:31 am
@Setanta,
Here we go with the insults again Malvolio, you really should try paying attention for once, then you won't go off half cock all the time.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 07:17 am
@izzythepush,
Now Devonshire cream wouldnt sound nearly as offensive as "clotted cream" SoI take it theres no sugar in the mix
Like "Blood pudding" , it needs some marketplace dressing up.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 07:34 am
@farmerman,
No sugar at all, it doesn't sound offensive to our ears. Clotted cream comes from the West Country, not just Devon.

We don't use the term blood pudding, it's black pudding over here.
Lola
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 07:40 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
You're forgetting that this particular issue was prompted by Lola claiming Spendi would probably class her scones as biscuits. He wouldn't, because Spendi is not located in the United States.


Bernie's scones, to be pickyer still. I'm off to visit my sisters today. Back later this evening.
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 08:20 am
@Setanta,
I have never claimed that any discussion is limited to anybody so why Setanta should inform us that the discussion is not limited to what I might say is likely due to his emotional need to say something derogatory about me without any reason for doing so just as dogs often bark for the sake of barking.

The reason Setanta does not read my posts is that he is scared of them. Scared witless actually. He asserts they are "drivel" as his excuse but he then has to face the fact that my posts have been complimented many times and thus he insults those who have complimented my posts by the direct, in their faces, accusation that they have complimented "drivel". He thus polarises opinion in the Coffee-House into a faction which agrees with him and a faction that doesn't. As everything said in this particular Coffee-House is heard from one end to the other he necessarily has to sit with his fingers in his ears as does the claque which supports his anti-social stance. The poor little things.

He cannot even express his silly self properly. If he is not about to start reading my posts then mentioning the subject of baked goods is pointless and sheer foam from the mouth. "Not about to start now" covers everything I post and not simply baked goods. "Literally" is a ridiculous choice of a word. It implies that we don't know the meaning of "years".

I propose that Washup asks him to leave because in a respectable Bohemian coffee-house stuck-up, snotty-nosed, bigoted snobs with loud mouths and a declared unwillingness to take part in all the conversations are destructive of that ambience in which any subject may be brought up and discussed openly and frankly, and without rancour, which is the very essence of Bohemian coffee-house society. Our only alternative is to restrict our conversations to matters and modes of approach which Setanta approves of and that means he has taken the place over, intends reconstructing it in his own image and lowering the tone to the level of that sort of utter stupidity expressed in the post of his I am referring to.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 08:23 am
@izzythepush,
look at alla those cookies!

I prefer homemade but a couple of Bourbon Creme cookies would be nice with my jug of tea
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 08:27 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
clotted cream sounds as appetizing as hematoma.


doesn't it though

I've never been able to try it. It's been served, but I can't bring myself to use it.

I'll stick to lightly sweetened whipped cream.

Funny how we all have different food likes/dislikes/prejudices.

When I think how long I waited before I tried lemon curd ... what a waste ... sounds weird, looks mmmm oddish, tastes amazing.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 08:44 am
@spendius,

WOW, 17 lines just to say "nyah nyah"
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 08:47 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
... it doesn't sound offensive to our ears. Clotted cream comes from the West Country, not just Devon.

We don't use the term blood pudding, it's black pudding over here.

You make a dish that actually contains blood, but euphemistically call it something else, and make a dairy product sound like blood, when it has none?

Can you explain why some cookies (call them biscuits, if you legally must) are taxed and other cookies (cakes, I guess) are not?
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 08:48 am
When it comes to comestibles, the Canadians are like the children of an amicable divorce, partaking of the tastes of both parents. So, many of the brands of sweet baked goods found in the United States are found here, and are also called cookies. The Nabisco company owns a controlling interest in Christie's, or Christie's owns a controlling interest in Nabisco--whichever it is really doesn't matter in the context of North American business . . .

http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com/biscuits/media/dadspack.jpg . . . http://news.cybertrending.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/nabisco-cookies.jpg

. . . note that the logos are similar, although not identical.

Then there is Peek Freans . . .

http://www.charlottepantry.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/e/peekfreans_digestive.jpg

. . . the big Canadian baked goods company. They produce what both Americans and Canajuns call cookies, but as you can see, they make "biscuits" too. In both countries you can buy Graham crackers, which aren't like other crackers at all, and are more like a digestive biscuits. Graham crackers or digestive biscuits, don't eat them before you go out for the evening.

In Canajun stores, you can buy cakes which remind of the tea cakes i used to see in Ireland, and not at all like the cakes you'd find in an American store. American cakes are usually large, round or square, and frosted. The cakes The Girl brings home are not frosted, and they are rectangular.

Up here, you can buy sausage links (as they are known in the U.S., also called "smokies") and you can buy bangers. You can buy American style bacon, and of course, you can get peameal bacon (as it is called in Ontario), what many Canajuns call back bacon. I've never seen bacon rashers such as i saw in Ireland, although someone may sell them.

There are also little pie like pastries call butter tarts, which are very much like what Americans call pecan pies, except they don't have pecans in them.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_y67wRJsJ3E8/SzRHlr04wkI/AAAAAAAADyE/pnd4rnmzyhc/s400/butter+tart.jpg

Some contain raisins, and they also come in a wide variety of flavors. The Girl picked up some that were maple flavored which were quite good (the Canajuns are absolutely nutty about maple flavoring--on the radio today a news reader said that the cost of maple syrup now exceeds the cost of petroleum, i can't vouch for that, though).

Pecan pies are usually larger than butter tarts, and are frequently the size of any other pie one finds in America--8" or 9" inches in diameter.

http://img4-1.myrecipes.timeinc.net/i/recipes/sl/02/11/pecan-pie-sl-363943-l.jpg

The filling is the same, and as with almost any form of pie, the crust is markedly inferior to what one makes at home.
 

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