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The Gun Fight in Washington. Your opinons?

 
 
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 07:40 am


Pennsylvania county: New gun laws won't apply here
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 12:14 pm
re H2O
That's ridiculous posturing. The Susquehanna County commissioners are in for a rude shock. Federal law trumps ounty law.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 12:19 pm
@MontereyJack,

all of his posts are "dumb and arbitrary", to quote our commander and chief...
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 12:23 pm
@H2O MAN,
LOL sorry but Federal laws does indeed apply in any part of PA as it does in any other part of the US as states nullification let alone county nullification of Federal laws is not a valid concept unless the county in question is going to fight another civil war all by itself.

God politicians are willing to put out any kind of nonsense.

H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 12:40 pm
@BillRM,


Dream on Billyboy, dream on.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 12:42 pm
@MontereyJack,

The legality of Marijuana in this country, who's laws trumps who's?
parados
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 12:52 pm
@H2O MAN,
Federal law trumps state and local laws. The Feds have discretion as to whether to enforce or not such as their decision to not enforce Fed laws for most small medical marijuana dispensaries but there is this.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/26/local/la-me-medical-marijuana-20120926

Believe me, if a county wants to ignore Fed gun laws the Feds can step in and enforce them and the county can't prevent it under US law. Any attempt by the county to interfere with a Fed enforcement would result in those officials being charged with crimes and every court in the land would convict those officials.
Ice Demon
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 01:00 pm
@parados,
You forgot to mention that a state also has the option to secede, illegally, if it wants to take the path of defying the supreme court ruling and/or orders from a federal judge or federal laws for that matter.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 01:29 pm
@parados,
Quote:
The Feds have discretion as to whether to enforce or not


No question about it, but why do you think the Feds would choose to enforce gun confiscation in a group of counties,
towns, cities and entire states that choose not to participate in the disarmament of otherwise law abiding American citizens?


The real questions are: Why would Obama choose to have real gun battles break out across the nation?
& what do he and his ilk gain from this bloody inevitability if weapon registration is attempted in CONUS?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 01:33 pm
@Ice Demon,
That's easier said than done. If they secede, the state no longer belongs in the US, and all federal funds will cease - including any support for their transportation (national railroad, roads, and airport support). They will no longer have access to the US without a passport or VISA. All interstate commerce will stop. All their representatives in congress will be null and void.

How do you expect them to survive?

Ice Demon
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 01:36 pm
@cicerone imposter,
How's that any of my business? That's the seceding state's business. All I'm adding is there is that option, however drastically unconventional it maybe.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 01:43 pm
@Ice Demon,
Who said it was your business? I'm just refuting your suggestion about any state seceding from the US regardless of their "option." It's really not an option.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 01:47 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

It's really not an option.


It's an option and I can see all gulf states plus GA and SC and possibly AZ & NM join Texas when and if the time comes.
Ice Demon
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 01:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Well your question seems to aspire to be otherwise: "How do you expect them to survive?"
And you're refuting imaginary thoughts, because what I added to Parados was not a suggestion, rather it was to make aware of a possible choice, and that is the state's option to secede, illegal as it maybe.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 02:00 pm
@Ice Demon,
It's really "not illegal" to secede; that question is still open to interpretation from what I have garnered from some web search.
However, most of the outcry for secession comes from small groups who do not represent the whole state, county, and/or community.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 02:11 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Dream on Billyboy, dream on.


Sorry we are still one country and as Jackson once told South Caroline politicians when they was threatening to interfere with a federal tariff he would personally lead tro0ps to have all of them hung from trees if they did not back down.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 02:13 pm
@BillRM,
Billyboy, you would like to murder every person that lives in the south... that's interesting.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 02:13 pm
@Ice Demon,
Quote:
You forgot to mention that a state also has the option to secede, illegally,


That been threaten many many in both sections of the North and the South and if I am correct it were try for real one time without a lot of luck.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 02:17 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
It's an option and I can see all gulf states plus GA and SC and possibly AZ & NM join Texas when and if the time comes.


Most of those states are a finance burden to the rest of us taking far more in then they produce so you might get the rest of the US to agree for them to going bye bye and we can all then have a good laugh when the Mexico government take back the lands we had seize in 1842 from them.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 1 Mar, 2013 02:20 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Billyboy, you would like to murder every person that lives in the south... that's interesting.


Just the traitors/politicians that would break their oaths of office.
 

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