The Gun Fight in Washington. Your opinons?

H2O MAN wrote:

Mine is an 8 shot semi-auto 12 gauge


If I feel the need to break out the battle rifles it will be for more than HD.

How's it working for you? Is it sensitive to different loads, or does it cycle with whatever you feed it?

Now you sound like Oralloy, Frank. Are you an Oralloy sock puppet?

Specifically targeting civilians, as the US did and has done, numerous times, is a war crime.

H2O MAN wrote:

The Alies targeted entire German and Japanese cities filled with civilians during WWII and it helped bring the war to an end much, much quicker than if they had not done this.

While that may be an expedient that serves your abysmally low moral compass well, these events still were war crimes.

Sen. Feinstein allegedly introduced a bill to a) make all guns illegal and b) fingerprint all legal gun owners?

Nonsense. The US has not targeted civilians in the past hundred years.

Americans must not comply with anything that resembles a national registry of firearms.

It is the citizens duty not to comply.

The US has not targeted civilians in the past hundred years.

Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam [Hardcover]
Nick Turse

Book Description
Release date: January 15, 2013
Based on classified documents and first-person interviews, a startling history of the American war on Vietnamese civilians

Americans have long been taught that events such as the notorious My Lai massacre were isolated incidents in the Vietnam War, carried out by "a few bad apples." But as award‑winning journalist and historian Nick Turse demonstrates in this groundbreaking investigation, violence against Vietnamese noncombatants was not at all exceptional during the conflict. Rather, it was pervasive and systematic, the predictable consequence of orders to "kill anything that moves."

Drawing on more than a decade of research in secret Pentagon files and extensive interviews with American veterans and Vietnamese survivors, Turse reveals for the first time how official policies resulted in millions of innocent civilians killed and wounded. In shocking detail, he lays out the workings of a military machine that made crimes in almost every major American combat unit all but inevitable. Kill Anything That Moves takes us from archives filled with Washington's long-suppressed war crime investigations to the rural Vietnamese hamlets that bore the brunt of the war; from boot camps where young American soldiers learned to hate all Vietnamese to bloodthirsty campaigns like Operation Speedy Express, in which a general obsessed with body counts led soldiers to commit what one participant called "a My Lai a month."

Thousands of Vietnam books later, Kill Anything That Moves, devastating and definitive, finally brings us face‑to‑face with the truth of a war that haunts Americans to this day.

http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Anything-That-Moves-American/dp/0805086919

The government DEFINES what 'illegal' is. If the SC disagrees with you regarding the second amendment, it's you that's wrong, not them - by definition. It's just how our system works.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

The government DEFINES what 'illegal' is. If the SC disagrees with you regarding the second amendment, it's you that's wrong, not them - by definition. It's just how our system works.

Cycloptichorn

Not exactly. The rulings of the Supreme Court certainly have the force of law.

But if they make an erroneous ruling, they are still the ones who are wrong, even though their erroneous ruling has the force of law.

So.... let me ask you again.
What instances of SWAT killing innocent people do you have from the last year?
What instances of SWAT injuring innocent people in the last year do you have?
What instances of SWAT making innocent people lie on the floor do you have from the last year?

But we weren't talking about serving warrants on people that needed to have warrants served on them. We are talking about them breaking down doors of innocent people without a legal justification.

waterbuoy is shooting blanks, as usual...

Make room in the pod of ignorance, RP wants in.

The good news is -
The NRA supports gangs being able to buy guns.

oralloy wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

The government DEFINES what 'illegal' is. If the SC disagrees with you regarding the second amendment, it's you that's wrong, not them - by definition. It's just how our system works.

Cycloptichorn

Not exactly. The rulings of the Supreme Court certainly have the force of law.

But if they make an erroneous ruling, they are still the ones who are wrong, even though their erroneous ruling has the force of law.

We have no other body that is allowed to define what is and isn't an 'erroneous' ruling. You may have a personal opinion about it, but nobody gives a **** about that, so it's not relevant to a conversation about national policy.

Cycloptichorn