Setanta
 
  4  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 02:51 am
@oralloy,
Why would you think that is the answer. The police are a product of the social contract, a necessary body for public order. They're the one group in society who should be armed, if they operate in situatons which call for it. How is "seems" to you is nonsensical.

No one proposes lettnig children be slaughtered while doing nothing. That doesn't mean that proliferating guns and armed people in schools is a good solution. In fact, it's an idiotic solution. I see no evidence at all that you inhabit the real world.
nothingtodo
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 03:18 am
@Lustig Andrei,
I thought previously, it was a fools errand, to continue putting guns everywhere in the world..

Of late, I find it bothers me not.. I do not class it as right, I simply know it is half the lead up, to conclusion, which will be 'tomorrow'.

Does that put me in evils grip for certain?
I find not. I think it puts me in the order of people who will die for something, rather than move out of the way in any event. To think this of oneself demolishes peaceful living, when peaceful living was a construct in ones mind that the world will only get better.

Looking on that though, it is clear it will.. I hope.

If you survived reading that, non-emotionally, you have a measure of your self's stoic lock. I am somewhat lacking, only slightly however.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 03:31 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
No one proposes lettnig children be slaughtered while doing nothing. That doesn't mean that proliferating guns and armed people in schools is a good solution. In fact, it's an idiotic solution. I see no evidence at all that you inhabit the real world.


So if you were going to design a school's defenses, how would you do it?
Setanta
 
  2  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 03:36 am
@oralloy,
The best place to start would be to begin to eliminate the sea of guns in which we are drowning. I've seen people selling handguns from their pickup trucks in parking lots. There are thousands of unlicensed gun sales on the fringes of gun shows every year. Don't try to make the focus "defending schools." The focus needs to be eliminating the millions of guns that circulate virtually without regulation.
raprap
 
  2  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 05:48 am
@Setanta,
Interesting application of passive RFID technology



Rap
Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 06:00 am
@oralloy,

Quote:
Quote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
You may have a problem of which you are unaware!



No problem that can't be solved by calling you a liar.


It is only because you are unaware that you suppose your problem can be solved that way.

I pity you for what you are going through.
Setanta
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 06:52 am
@raprap,
Excellent video--this is exactly why it's really idiotic to attempt to lump law enforcement members in with the gun loonies. Law enforcement members are, or ought to be, accountable for their weapons and the use of their weapons. The loons out there are not, which is why we have a problem.
edgarblythe
 
  2  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 08:47 am
Too much of the focus is defending schools. Crowds gather everywhere. You can't place armed guards in all these places. Gun control is mandatory.
joefromchicago
 
  2  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 01:14 pm
@Val Killmore,
Val Killmore wrote:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQEFZi13rc0RX1ODi133yO2zQy5MIMmAyuY7-aSZ8Wjz_byCeWdMDSNiCsInA

I imagine both are equally efficacious.
roger
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 01:45 pm
@joefromchicago,
Beyond doubt.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 04:13 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
The best place to start would be to begin to eliminate the sea of guns in which we are drowning. I've seen people selling handguns from their pickup trucks in parking lots. There are thousands of unlicensed gun sales on the fringes of gun shows every year. Don't try to make the focus "defending schools." The focus needs to be eliminating the millions of guns that circulate virtually without regulation.


The NRA does not oppose background checks for all sales at gun shows so long as the government is required to conduct the checks within 24 hours, so we may well see such checks passed.

But the guns used by this Connecticut shooter were not bought in a manner that avoided background checks, so that would not have done a thing to prevent him from acquiring guns.

But, I give up. Everyone go ahead and leave all the children utterly defenseless. Won't be my problem when the next massacre happens.
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oralloy
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 04:13 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
I pity you for what you are going through.


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

You're pretty silly.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 04:13 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
Too much of the focus is defending schools. Crowds gather everywhere. You can't place armed guards in all these places.


Go ahead and leave the children defenseless. Not my problem, and I'm not gonna worry about it anymore.



edgarblythe wrote:
Gun control is mandatory.


We already have gun control.
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nothingtodo
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 05:54 pm
@joefromchicago,
Both can these days, though they chose the one on the left, so no central control safety off with fingerprint recognition has been issued.

Instead high risk places get the door check.

The above only seems ridiculous due to the drive so far to make it otherwise, particularly in high 'gang warfare' areas.
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Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 05:59 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Quote:
Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5206354)
Frank Apisa wrote:
I pity you for what you are going through.





You're pretty silly.


Perhaps. But that doesn't stop me from pitying you for your pain.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 08:00 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Perhaps. But that doesn't stop me from pitying you for your pain.


Your dishonesty isn't painful. I just call you a liar and move on to the next post.
Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 08:06 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Quote:
Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5206953)
Frank Apisa wrote:
Perhaps. But that doesn't stop me from pitying you for your pain.


Your dishonesty isn't painful. I just call you a liar and move on to the next post.


That doesn't even make sense.

But you certainly can call me a liar. Hell, you do that to the majority of people with whom you interact.
Val Killmore
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 08:10 pm
@Setanta,
Now if we only could hold some coppers accountable for their reprehensible and indefensible actions.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 08:11 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Perhaps. But that doesn't stop me from pitying you for your pain.


Your dishonesty isn't painful. I just call you a liar and move on to the next post.


That doesn't even make sense.


Sure it does.



Frank Apisa wrote:
But you certainly can call me a liar.


Especially since that's what you are.



Frank Apisa wrote:
Hell, you do that to the majority of people with whom you interact.


Liar.
raprap
 
  2  
Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 09:04 pm
@oralloy,
Proof of another Oraboy error.

Frank Apisa wrote:
But you certainly can call me a liar.


Oraboy wrote:
Especially since that's what you are.


Frank Apisa wrote:
But you certainly can call me a liar.


Oraboy wrote:
Especially since that's what you are.


Frank Apisa wrote:
Hell, you do that to the majority of people with whom you interact.


Oraboy wrote:
Liar


quod erat demonstrandum

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