How can something come from nothing?

Forget the next video Creationist bullshit, because the argument they make doesn't follow to God, but rather to a cyclic model of the Universe and remember this gold piece of nonsense from one of the most illustrious members of your scientific community:
(Because this kind of crap is what Science has to avoid at all costs)



PS - I could go onto Sam Harris but I will let that to another day.

...since then many more models for an eternal past have been developed and made public one of them coming from this year Nobel Laureate Sir Roger Penrose with his Cyclic Conformal Cosmology...nonetheless lets check how Science distorts meanings words and even models in public, all in name of an insane war happening in Murika about dumbfucked red neckers in the Bibble belt that believe the world has 5000 years and Noah's Arch was real with trillions of viruses microbes insects and all the other animals and Scientific Enlightenment which is hard in Murika because of a Neo Liberal self destructive economic agenda that kills social economical mobility unlike its pitched in the "Murikan Dream" destroying by consequence any hope of education!

Some hard facts on the state of Murika:

politely stated , you really have no idea about what you speak. Did you ever realize that youtube gifs bear no obligations to fact or evidence?

You can do your homework and find more or less the same numbers on credible independent international sources...so what is your problem with it? Go fact check me!

PS - ...oh wait if you are referring to Lawrence Krauss what is it that you want to fact check??? His idiocy?

...you don't debate concepts, you don't debate logic, you barely comply with common sense, you speak from authority but throw no meat into the table...so what is it? More "aimless directions"?

You have spoken of our "bromance" and a lot of things and tastes that we shared but straight in your face honesty is one you cannot afford!

You are far in too deep, too compromised, and cannot afford the luxury of independent thinking!
Glad you choose a career n all have fun with retirement!
We all make choices in life! Enjoy yours...

Your generation, as previous ones bought into other myths, went with the myth that Science has no boundaries but we all are about to hit a species related barrier...as I listen to you you seem to keep pushing the agenda and selling Scientific Colgate at peoples doors but these days no one is buying it!

One thing the Social media did right aside all the misinformation going on between dumbfucks was to expose the pseudo knowledge going in the Academia itself...

All you supply is platitudes and jargon based on NO sense of understanding. Ill not waste further time.
Your critique of science seems more based on envy rather than understanding and scholarship. WHY not go find someone who gives a **** about what you hqve to pronounce.

been trying to squeeze some braintem from you and all I gt is nothing but insult. SO pardon me , Ive gotta go get a haircut.

Ill have the creamy Italian on that.

...and ignored...I have had my time talking with pretensions obnoxious idiots like you! You have barely a clue on what I think know or understand...You are not even close to get the basics on my topics...you clearly are an Asperger with very low comprehension skills and a bunch of pot shot bullshit for a talker! ...have a nice life and frankly good luck!

A 101 on why randomness is not random!

The more nuanced explanation:

On a side note not directly related to the topic, the mess in the use of statistical analysis these days in Science:
(Brilliant presentation)

Its sad that you really have little iea how science works. In my fields, we spend much time and money reducing the factors of randomnss that were built in to observation of natural phenomena. Weve even created "Constants" which , like decay constants, chemical bonding , or energy pathways, had built in "unknowns " until the actual values of those phenomena were determined by experiment or observation. You realize that, despite our understanding of time , we still take exhaustive measures of cesium atoms to make randomness more deterministic.

Youre sitting there by the sidelines arguing that deterministic forces were already there. WELL DUHHHH!. Much of science, spends evenings and weekends deriving equations that "work around" the constants that wre created when the equations were first developed.


We have entire sub disciplines where uses of such things as krigging or variograms or a bunch of other techniques which factor in stretches of the "unknown territory" in order to make the calculations work.

You guys worry about words and not nough of phenomena.(Thats where education helps out)


So if you think Im an autistic idiot, thank you. It means I have a special talent or two that you cannot undertsand , which is why you just give my skills (what you think are) insulting titles.

Have you ever noticed how so many annoying little insects are attracted to a great light, buzzing around it, sometime slamming into it in their futile attempts to diminish that which gives light to the people?

I realise fm, that you are a very intelligent man, and we need more like you, and even though you will never be able to prove that Life originated from a universe of mindless matter, we need all the information that can be gathered about the life on earth that originated in the Eternal Energy that has neither beginning or end and has become all that exists and is the collective consciousness of all the life forms that it has become.

According to general relativity, the gravitational collapse of a sufficiently compact mass forms a regular Schwarzschild black hole, which is a non-rotating black hole as opposed to a rotating Kerr black hole. Nothing can escape from the mouth of a black hole, not even light, the mass within a black hole warps the fabric of space, as the internal mass increases by the objects falling into and being devoured by that gravitational anomaly, it begins to form a funnel like tunnel in space.

Any object going into a black hole would be ripped apart by the intense gravitational force inside the black hole and re-converted to the photons from which it was originally created.

In 1963, New Zealand mathematician Roy Kerr, calculated an exact solution for Einstein’s field equations representing a Kerr black hole. The special feature of a Kerr black hole is that it rotates. So far as scientists know, all objects in the universe rotate, including stars, so when the star collapses into a black hole, it’s likely that it too will rotate.

In Kerr’s solution, it’s actually possible for the electromagnetic energy from which this universe and all herein was created, the quantum of that energy, being photons, to travel through the rotating black hole and could come out of the white hole at the other side.

Those rotating black holes, which were created from the supernova and collapse of gigantic stars, are seen as swirling funnels, which are formed in the galaxies, much like the funnel in a Thunderstorm.

A worm Hole could theoretically be used as a method of sending information or travelers through space, unfortunately, physical matter which includes humans journeying through the space tunnels would appear to be an impossibility as there are strong indications that material objects travelling through a worm hole is forbidden by the law of physics.

But now that it has been discovered that Physical matter is but an illusion, and all is, but the eternal energy, I have no doubts that one day. During the coming thousand years of peace, new technology will develop a way to teleport bodies of energy along light beams and reconstruct them to their original form, with no damage done: ‘Beam me up Scotty?’

For we shall not all fall asleep in death, said Paul, but at the sound of the last trumpet when the heavenly radiation is about to incinerate all life forms on this planet, and the camp of God is surrounded by the nations of the earth (Revelations 20: 7-9.) we shall be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, from bodies of corruptible matter, into glorious bodies of brilliant and blinding light.

“Quantum physicists discovered that physical atoms are made up of vortices of energy that are constantly spinning and vibrating; each atom is like a wobbly spinning top that radiates energy. Because each atom has its own specific energy signature (wobble), assemblies of atoms (molecules) collectively radiate their own identifying energy patterns.

If two molecular structures were teleported together, because they both have their own specific energy signature, there should be no sharing of molecules when they are reconstructed to their original forms, not like that old film “THE FLY.”

But like I have said, we need all the information we can gather about the life on earth that originated from the great Singularity, so keep up the good work old mate.

I think he's informing you that you're just a grunt for the Harry Potter faction, farmerman.

The question that often arises for me after listening to a theist "explain" how a god is necessary for EXISTENCE...is how they get from "a creator is needed" to requiring that the "creator" be something like imagined by the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Norse, or Hebrews.

Even if it could be established by logic that at least one god must exist (which it cannot)...but even if it could, how does one logically go from that to..."A GOD WHICH MUST BE WORSHIPED AND OBEYED?"

If you firmly believe that not one God can exist, then you lie when you say you are an agnostic, when in fact you are an atheist.

we are agnostic in what w know, and atheist in our beliefs. nothin wrong with that, we can investigate for facts without having to cover fairy tales with even more fairy tales. From a guy who was able to create "ETERNAL ENERGY" as a state of mass, I salute your abilities at Olympic style bullshittery.

I have never said I "believe" that not one god can exist. I have said the exact opposite...dozens upon dozens of time.

Wake the hell up!