@farmerman,
The argument is quite simple:
There are properties in the Universe/Reality.
If we grant the classical God for the sake of the argument God is part of Reality thus God has properties.
God is also eternal in the classical definition.
The properties of God were not the result of God creating them.
Therefore God did not create all that it is real, starting by his own reality.
That which follows from the "nature" of God is not the result of God's free will but of God's nature.
Again it follows God did not have choice in being who he has to be nor could he recreate himself to be something other then God.
God is also deemed perfect, thus God cannot change its nature from perfection to less than perfection.
Whatever God must "create" is the result of God's nature and not of God's free choice.
Which in turn results in Nature/Reality in its a priori form trumping God himself in his necessary volition to perform acts of "creation".
What this means is that God is not the actual creator of anything!
And yes this is profound not because God exists but because in rhetoric one starts from accepting the premises the classical definition gives you and then through pure logic one looks for inconsistencies.
If you have any straight forward counter regarding the logic of the argument please post or be gone. The only thing you keep posting is pot shots never addressing the topic or the substance of the axioms premises and conclusions of what was being argued.
